India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

There is a considerable increase in the Indian defense budget along with introducing new and sophisticated weaponry but every time when its time to execute the plans the technology and the weapons seem to be stop working.
It is an alarming situation for IAF. How can India fight both China and Pakistan when its frontline fighter planes MiG2 21 and MiG 29 are considered as “flying coffins” and “widow makers”. To check IAF’s poor performance against PAF in both wars of 1965 and 1971 one can read American fighter pilot Chuck Hugger’s book where he highly admired PAF pilots who shot down 135 IAF’s SU 7 planes. Fighting against China and Pakistan will be a different cup of tea for India this time.

India’s ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise – The Express Tribune

India’s ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China moderniseBy Reuters
Published: February 19, 2015

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Russian-made MiG and French Mirage fighters, along with more modern Russian Sukhoi Su-30s. But half of India’s fighters are due to retire beginning this year until 2024. PHOTO: INDIANAIRFORCE.NIC.IN/FILE

****BENGALURU, INDIA: India’s air force risks a major capability gap opening up with China and Pakistan without new western warplanes or if local defence contractors can’t produce what the military needs in a timely manner.
A 2012 agreement to buy 126 Rafale fighters from France’s Dassault Aviation has stalled due to a dispute over the assembly of the aircraft in India. India’s first homegrown fighter, the Tejas light combat aircraft, will finally be delivered next month, 30 years after it was conceived.
But senior air force officers privately said they were unimpressed, with one former officer, an ex-fighter pilot, saying the plane was “so late it is obsolete”.
While India’s navy is undergoing an accelerated modernisation drive, experts said India was vulnerable in the skies because of its reliance on a disparate fleet of ageing Russian-made MiG and French Mirage fighters, along with more modern Russian Sukhoi Su-30s. But half of India’s fighters are due to retire beginning this year until 2024.
“It could lead to humiliation at the hands of our neighbours,” AK Sachdev, a retired air force officer, wrote last year in the Indian Defence Review journal. A coordinated attack by China and arch-rival Pakistan could stretch the Indian military, he added.
It’s a scenario defence strategists in New Delhi have been asked to plan for, Indian air force sources say, although experts say such an event is highly unlikely to happen, primarily due to nuclear weapons owned by all three.
India’s ties with China, though warm in recent times, are still hamstrung by a dispute over their Himalayan border that led to war in 1962. New Delhi is also wary of China’s expanding naval presence in the Indian Ocean and its close relations with Pakistan.
Multiple crashes
India’s air force has 34 operational squadrons, down from 39 earlier this decade and below the government approved strength of 42, a parliamentary committee said in December. In 2012, the then defence minister had said that more than half of India’s MiG fighters had crashed and burned.
In this time, however, China has managed to project its military power, by exponentially ramping up its defence budget and boosting production capability in all areas, particularly aerial. It is flying locally built fourth-generation J-10 fighters and is testing two fifth-generation stealth fighter jets.
On the Western front, Pakistan is upgrading its Lockheed Martin F-16 fighters as well as using JF-17 warplanes developed with China. To replace and upgrade its fleet of ageing Mirages and F-7Ps, Pakistan is also in talks with China to buy J-10s.
But India still maintains an edge over Pakistan – the sheer size of its air force. But the slow modernisation means victory would come with heavy casualties, said Richard Aboulafia, Washington DC-based vice president of analysis at the Teal Group, an aerospace and defence think tank.
So far, India has bought more Su-30s and upgrading other existing fighters to keep itself in the game. Though keeping up may soon be no longer enough.
“We do need to increase our defence preparedness,” Prime Minister Narendra Modi told the opening ceremony of the Aero India airshow in the city of Bengaluru on Wednesday.
Tejas criticism unfounded
K Tamilmani, a senior official at the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), a defence ministry agency which designed and developed the plane brushed aside criticism of the light aircraft.
“The Tejas has a safety record that is unbeaten,” Tamilmani told Reuters by telephone, adding it would provide a platform to develop more advanced fighters in the years ahead. Indeed, with the amount of crashes that the Indian airforce has had to deal with, at least two since the start of the year, security it seems to weigh more heavily than being able to compete before more advanced and superior fighters.
Impasse over Rafale Jets
The Rafale fighters are expected to replace some of India’s MiGs and Mirage fleet. But India is insisting Dassault take full responsibility for production of the aircraft at a state-run facility in Bengaluru, Indian defence ministry officials have said.
France, while agreeing to help Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd stick to delivery schedules, has shied away from offering guarantees for production of the aircraft made at a facility over which it has no administrative or expert control.
India would decide on the fate of the deal only after March, when a defence ministry committee delivers a report on the issue, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar said at the airshow.
But cancellation of the multi-billion dollar deal would be “disastrous”, said Deba Mohanty, chairman at Indicia Research & Advisory, a New Delhi-based defence consulting firm.
“It’s a really tricky situation in which the supplier is unhappy, the bureaucrats are unhappy and the end user is disappointed,” said Mohanty.
India has successfully introduced Boeing’s C-17 cargo plane and P-8 Poseidon anti-submarine aircraft and Lockheed Martin’s C-130J transport, all bought ‘off the shelves’, over the last few years. That shows off-the shelf solutions work best, experts said. But the Modi administration’s “Make in India” programme, and the emphasis on building up a domestic defence industrial base to cut dependence on foreign supplies which make India the world’s biggest arms importer, means the Rafale programme may not go as smoothly as hoped.
In this regard, the best hope for India is its Tejas Mark II, a slightly larger plane than the original, which will feature more powerful engines, better radars and upgraded avionics.
India is also looking to add trainer jets, light transport aircraft and helicopter to its list of indigenous defence programmes. “People who fly planes, want the best value for money, which means off-the-shelf,” said Aboulafia. “People who want jobs and technology development schemes have different priorities. That’s why the two groups don’t like each other much.”

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

is gumaan meN bhii na rahiyo! ;) yeh hamaarii Khaaksaarii hai. :p

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

Describing airforce by the word 'khaksar' might not be a good omen ;)

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise


hahaha :)

amriika bhii kahaa kartaa thaa k Saddam kii fauj bahot taaqatvar hai magar jab waqt aayaa to unkii fauj 'TaayeN TaayeN Fish' ho gaii. :D

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

amrika ne jhoot pe jhoot bola tha. sab ko maloom hai. aap tak khabar nahee pahunchi?

Re: India’s ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

Aapas ki baat hai, Saddam ki foj jo bhi India ne hi tayyar kya tha :wink:

Same fate awaits you know who :chai:

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise


yaaraa, jhooT hii par to dunyaa phal phool rahii hai...sach kii jeet to bas roz e Hashr meN hii hogaa...is dunyaa meN jo jitnaa baRaa jhooTaa, jo jitnaa baRaa farebii aur jo jitnaa baRaa doGhla hotaa hai usii kii jeet hotii hai. yeh uncle Sam ke liye nahiiN thaa...vo to bechaaraa hat lagaa kar nihaayat shareef un nafs lagtaa hai. :)

Re: India’s ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

aisii KhabroN ko maiN, aise da’voN ko maiN
maiN nahiiN maantaa, main nahiiN maantaa :stuck_out_tongue:

josh e typing meN ungli zaKhmii ho gaii! :smiley:

Re: India’s ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

We continue to spend on weaponization, even as millions die of hunger, literacy rates are low and basic infrastructure facilities are missing. But atleast we will win the regional arms race :hoonh:

Re: India’s ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

well, someone has weapons to sell.

How would the big5 weapons suppliers survive if conflicts were resolved without resorting to military? BTW, The big5 weapons exporters also have veto powers in UN’s “security” council :smiley:

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise


don't forget there will soon be the 6th nation with a veto power in the UN Security Council...guess which is that nation! :p

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

They absolutely should change those planes. They are ugly!!

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

Israel?

There won't be any meaningful changes to the security council make up till there is a new(er) world order. Russia and the West just divvied up Ukraine among themselves; on the surface they play antagonists, but in reality all 5 are really allies. If India or Brazil or any other country not friendly with the West thinks they can get the veto, they are dreaming.

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise


Israel already has the 'VETO' power through the US.

it's gonna be India soon. the 6th permanent member of the UN Security Council.

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

Never happening anytime soon. China won''t say yes as its a massive risk to them as India is their rival. Except China the rest have been together more or less since WW2, countries like Japan were not added. India has no chance. You ofc can believe otherwise.

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i believe China has already indicated that it will refrain from voting thus not getting in the way for India's membership in the security council. China has India one of it's biggest trade partners and it won't risk that. i think India will soon be given the membership.

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

I'd agree if 'soon' is around 20 years.

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise


even a 20 year wait is worth the wait. isn't it? ;) at least this proves that we are heading in the right direction. :)

some countries, as we know them, don't even know if they will be around or not in 20 years. hehe

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

Please enlighten us of those countries.

Re: India's ailing air force at risk as Pakistan, China modernise

Ok that's a new low. One thing you should get straight, Pakistan became a country on 27th night of Ramadan and is here to stay! I honestly don't know why don't you guys just let us be. Whatever, dream on.