Indians want...

Pakistan to end. Nothing would give the average Indian greater pleasure than to see the demise of Pakistan as a Nation-State. No matter how much many Indians including their PM deny this but their actions clearly show that India has never accepted the creation of Pakistan. Indians formented trouble in E.Pakistan, Baluchistan, NWFP, Sindh in order to break up Pakistan into smaller units-- which would be both impotent and subserviant to India. Or in other instances, Indians have long held designs for Pakistani territory like Sindh. It still amazes me that SINDHI is an official language of India and Sindh is mentioned in Indian nationalistic songs. But let us be fair, we have plenty of watan faroosh traitors and Ghaddars who have supported indian motives.

I think to the Indian Guppies, this may sound like incoherent babble and hard to believe for many Pakistanis. I can guarantee that the Indians would kick us if we were down and let’s face it, they have done so many times. The fact remains that Pakistan has given India the most headaches and will always be a thorn on their sides.

Conversely, we have no plans for occupying Indian territory. Bring up Kashmir and I’ll refer you to it’s disputed status. I think the coming years will further crystallize my arguments. Many of us say “buss Allah chala raha hai” in refer to Pakistan and believe me it still hold true to this day. If we are to emerge from this mess as a stronger nation we must make sure that we are outperforming India in every sector, economic, social, military, you name it. In doing so, we must put Pakistan first and foremost :slight_smile:

Regarding Indian national anthem. … some clarifications

When the proceedings of the Indian National Congress began on Wednesday 27th December 1911, a Bengali song in welcome of the Emperor was sung. A resolution welcoming the Emperor and Empress was also adopted unanomously."

Rabindranath Tagore did not contradict newspaper reports which characterised Janaganamana as a song composed in honour of King George V. Gradually the tide of nationalism began to affect the old values. Loyalty to the country and loyalty to the King became irreconcilable. Honour, devotion and love of the country not only ceased to co-exist with honour, devotion and love of King Emperor, but mutually antagonistic.

In 1911 Sindh and the entire Pakistan was part of India so Sindh is part of Indian national anthem.

Sindhi is one of the national languages of India (along with other 22 languages). This is because there is a large Sindhi speaking population in Maharashtra and Gujarat. So is Urdu which is a national language and a second official language of Uttar Pradesh and Andhra Pradesh.

There are 45 universties teaching Persian in India, while in Pakistan they hardly teach Persian.


http://www.southalabama.edu/india/nanthem.html

Original Bengali

Jana-gana-mana-adhinayaka, jaya he
Bharata-bhagya-vidhata
Punjaba-Sindhu-Gujarata-Maratha
Dravida-Utkala-Banga

Vindhya-Himachala-Yamuna-Ganga
Uchchala-Jaladhi-taranga

Tava shubha name jage
Tava shubha asisa mage

Gahe tava jaya gatha

Jana-gana-mangala-dayaka jaya he
Bharata-bhagya-vidhata

Jaya he, jaya he, jaya he,
Jaya jaya jaya, jaya he!


Here is the English translation of Indian national anthem

Thou art the ruler of the minds of all people,
dispenser of India’s destiny.

Thy name rouses the hearts of Punjab, Sind,
Gujarat and Maratha,

Of the Dravida and Orissa and Bangal;

It echoes in the hills of the Vindhyas and Himalayas,
mingles in the music of
Jamuna and Ganges and is chanted
by the waves of the Indian Sea.

They pray for thy blessing
and sing thy praise.

The saving of all people waits in thy hand,
thou dispenser of India’s destiny.

Victory, victory, victory to thee.

India is run by a bunch of Hindutva loons. It's a major problem and obstacle to peace and a major reason why Pakistan was created in the first place.

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India is run by a bunch of Hindutva loons. It's a major problem and obstacle to peace and a major reason why Pakistan was created in the first place.
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what is the reason bangaldesh created ? atleast it is understandable
india and pakistan was devided on the basis of religen.

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what is the reason bangaldesh created ? atleast it is understandable
india and pakistan was devided on the basis of religen.
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Because the Bangla Boshi's were a bunch of power hungary fools, whome were backed by India to revolt. Now look at them starving and begging for scraps form other nations. Because of these idiots my Family still has to live down the shame of:

Maar Gaya Kazi
Bagh gaya Niazi

What was he supposed to do let his men die without ammo or supplies.

Frankly they can keep Bangladesh and as far as i am concerned if india is such a peace loving nation it should go with Pakistan and offer Kashmir its freedom, then we will see how long it lasts.

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Because the Bangla Boshi's were a bunch of power hungary fools, whome were backed by India to revolt. Now look at them starving and begging for scraps form other nations. Because of these idiots my Family still has to live down the shame of:

Maar Gaya Kazi
Bagh gaya Niazi

What was he supposed to do let his men die without ammo or supplies.

Frankly they can keep Bangladesh and as far as i am concerned if india is such a peace loving nation it should go with Pakistan and offer Kashmir its freedom, then we will see how long it lasts.
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bangaldesh poverty is going down while pakistan's is increasing.
thier gnp will soon exceed pakistan's since their defense expense
low .

India has a big population of non-hindus...yet they still managed to vote in a government which is hell-bent on (secular) religous domination. That's more than enough justification for Pakistan right there.

Is Narender Modi, Gujrat burner extroadinaire still in office? yes ny friends he is.

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bangaldesh poverty is going down while pakistan's is increasing.
thier gnp will soon exceed pakistan's since their defense expense
low .
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Ohh really, another stat based post.. if you are to show any sign of Intelligence you must learn to question statistics..

In Pakistan's defence: By financial consultants predict the Pakistan has a sucessful macroeconomy and by 2005 Pakistan will see a great rise in Forigen investment and Market penetration. Such as I.T./ Agr/Manpower and Defence.

Also have you seen the latest news on Bangaladesh lately ??

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India has a big population of non-hindus...yet they still managed to vote in a government which is hell-bent on (secular) religous domination. That's more than enough justification for Pakistan right there.

Is Narender Modi, Gujrat burner extroadinaire still in office? yes ny friends he is.
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pakistan was not created for south asian muslims since mjority of them live outside of pakistan. even if you gather all the muslims of south asia
in one place and give them one man one vote you know who will
lead them.

How come Bangladesh hasn't re-united with India?

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How come Bangladesh hasn't re-united with India?
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they did not separate from us . our bengal is still with us.

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It's a major problem and obstacle to peace and a major reason why Pakistan was created in the first place.
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Why was Bangladesh Created then ??

How come there's an Indian Bengal and a seperate Bangladesh?

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How come there's an Indian Bengal and a seperate Bangladesh?
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Same way there is a New Mexico in US and a seperate Mexico.

And it is WEST BENGAL and Bangladesh.

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How come there's an Indian Bengal and a seperate Bangladesh?
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we have have more religen and ethinic groups living under one ummah.
even ummah is suppose to be consists of one religen. so we have exceeded the ummah

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..we have have more religen and ethinic groups living under one ummah...
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A sore point with the RSS, VHP, BJP Hinduvta leadership of 'Muslim Burning Hindus' :)

With thousands of Muslims burnt to death, with over a hundred thousand Muslims still languishing in refugee camps, and the womb of Muslim women being violated and their unborn babies repped apart by the Hindus says it all for your one ummah.

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we have have more religen and ethinic groups living under one ummah.
even ummah is suppose to be consists of one religen. so we have exceeded the ummah
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You arrogant fool .. Mods please delete this post !!!

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Same way there is a New Mexico in US and a seperate Mexico.

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The history there is a little different or are you forgetting the Mexican wars????

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Why was Bangladesh Created then ??

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I believe it had something to do with an idea that Jute would propel thier economy forward....when it turned sour less than 4 years later certain patriotic elements who fought in the "liberation" war....killed thier leader along with his entire family.....

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bangaldesh poverty is going down while pakistan's is increasing.
thier gnp will soon exceed pakistan's since their defense expense
low .

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Great! You can let all the illegal Bangladeshis in Karachi know so that they can go back and enjoy thier increasing GNP.