Indians prefer sons, snuff out girls

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Indians prefer sons, snuff out girls
Friday 05-08-2005

By Sugita Katyal

Infanticide may still be there in small pockets, but foeticide is more rampant in India

IT’S a scenario that’s hit India straight in the gut. Some time in the future in a village in eastern India, there are only a few women left. As a result, five brothers are married to one woman – who then take turns brutalising her every night.

This may be the figment of a Bollywood film-maker’s imagination, but activists say the film, “Matrubhoomi” is a wakeup call in a country plagued by two of the most horrific crimes against women: infanticide and female foeticide.

… “They believe why wait for nine months to eliminate a baby girl when they can do it in just eight weeks.”

Experts say the number of women dropped to 933 for every 1,000 men in 2001 from 941 in 1961, largely because of a long history of infanticide and, more recently, sex selective abortions. The ratio stood at 972 in 1901.

… The study found that the number of female births was 542 per 1,000 boys if the first child was a girl. If the first two children were girls, there were just 219 girls born for every 1,000 boys.

“Our study showed 50 percent of female foetuses are eliminated if it’s a second girl and after two girls almost three-fourths of the female foetuses are eliminated,” the association’s Joe Varghese told Reuters.

Daily Times

Tut, tut, tut… the sickest people in the world.

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^^ Sick Phuqs

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it is more of a southasian cultrure for preference for male child

IMPACT ON DEMOGRAPHY

Nevertheless, estimates suggest that by 2020, there will be an excess of
four million men. This suggests that, when roughly even numbers of each sex
may expect to be born, an almost equal number of girls have not survived.

Pakistan is one of the few countries in the world where population gender
statistics are skewed in favour of men, demographers say. Out of a
population of 149 million people, there are already 105 men for every 100
women, according to the latest demographic profiles.

FAVOURING BOYS

The reasons for this go beyond the issue of pre-natal gender selection. As
many doctors will testify, many more girls than boys die under the age of
five, since they are often fed less well than their male counterparts and
are less likely to receive prompt medical care when ill.

“It is generally true, parents bring in sick boys far more often than sick
girls. A girl’s health and physical well-being is placed at a far lower
value compared to that of a boy child,” said Dr Ahad Abbas speaking to IRIN.
He has been posted for two years to a tiny Rural Health Centre (RHC) near
Taxila, in the northern Punjab.

Parents do not deny this bias. “For each of my four daughters, I will need
to pay out a huge sum when they wed, as dowry and as expenses. My two sons
will however add to the household earning,” maintained Rafiuddin, a father
of six children who lives in the rural area of Narang Mandi, some 100 km
from Lahore. He added, “I love my daughters, but they are some harsh
economic realities that poor people like us must face.”

UNETHICAL BUT COMMON

Nearly a decade ago, as gender determination through pre-natal ultrasound
screening became increasingly common, both the Pakistan Medical Association
(PMA), the body of medical professionals, and the Pakistan Medical and
Dental Council (PMDC), the main regulatory body for the profession, declared
it to be ‘unethical’ to tell parents the gender of an unborn child.

However, the adherence to the declaration is almost impossible to enforce,
with ultrasound clinics offering gender determination services now operating
in almost every urban locality in a city like Lahore. Too often, the
announcement that the baby is a girl will be followed by a visit to a
back-street abortionist, functioning illegally in the Temple Road area of
the city.

“Women come weeping to us, because they are carrying a second or third or
fourth daughter. They are often too scared even to tell their husbands they
are pregnant with another girl
http://www.un-instraw.org/revista/hypermail/alltickers/en/0086.html

a tooth for a tooth
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Grim motives behind infant killings

In the first of a two-part report examining infanticide in India, CNN’s Satinder Bindra looks into the social environment that can drive parents to kill their baby girls.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/south/07/07/india.infanticide.pt1/

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http://southasia.oneworld.net/article/view/99464/1

The mystery of the missing girl children

According to UNICEF, about 40 to 50 million girls have been missing in India since 1901, because they have not been allowed to be born or

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"And when the girl-child that was buried alive is asked
For what crime she was killed" (Qur'an 81:8-9)

"Kill not your children for fear of want:
We shall provide sustenance for them as well as for you.
Surely to kill them is a great sin." (Qur'an 17:31)

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Definition: The number of males for each female one of five age groups - at birth, under 15 years, 15-64 years, 65 years and over, and for the total population. Sex ratio at birth has recently emerged as an indicator of certain kinds of sex discrimination in some countries. For instance, high sex ratios at birth in some Asian countries are now attributed to sex-selective abortion and infanticide due to a strong preference for sons. This will affect future marriage patterns and fertility patterns. Eventually it could cause unrest among young adult males who are unable to find partners.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/peo_sex_rat_156_yea&int=-1

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There are always more males born to females in any country or culture...

Its just when the two sexes are roughly around 21 yrs of age there are more females than males...

We males like to die more from wars, accidents, suicides, and plain stupidity....

Come on now who hasnt tried to impress a hot babe by jumping of a balcony into a pool without checking to see if the pool has water....

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Just terrible…

http://www.warroom.com/femalinfancide.htm

Forget Miss Universe pageants, forget Women’s Day, forget free
Internet connections for women. ** The stark reality is that India today
tops the list in illegal abortions and female infanticide in the
world. A CMJI report quoting UNICEF says, 40-50 million girls ** have
gone ‘missing’ in India in 1990. They are termed as missing as they
were either murdered at the time of their birth or within few hours of
birth.

Women who assist in childbirth, snuff out newborn females.

In fact the very women who assist in the birth of a child are the ones
who are paid to finish off unwanted female babies. On payment of a fee
that can range between Rs. 60-150, these dais kill the female babies
the moment they are born.

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Horrific.

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Worship of animals has made these junglees baby killers and canibals… killing their own children.

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Just how far will you go to demonstrate hatred and racism? Are you so insecure in your own skin you will go this far to belittle others?

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And despite all this I am still amazed that not a single clear-cut word is said condemning these acts by some people on this thread…What a pity!

Links are provided to confuse the issue as if showing male to male ratio in favor of males justifes these horrible pre-Islamic acts continued in masses in Hindia.

Are we witnessing the most stubborn attitude or is this act just being acceptable act by these Hindia lovers?

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upsetting

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i dont disagree with following verse

Hence, do not kill your children for fear of poverty: it is we who shall provide sustenance for them as well as for you. Verily, killing them is a great sin. (17:31)

Female infanticide was usually prompted by one of two reasons: fear of poverty or fear of disgrace. The first reason is associated with the frequent famines caused by lack of rain and the fear of poverty that would result from providing for girls who were viewed as less productive than boys. Fathers were afraid that they would have useless mouths to feed, since daughters were considered mere “ornaments,” as pointed out in the Quran:

… if any of them is given the glad tiding of [the birth of] what he so readily attributes to the Most Gracious, his face darkens, and he is filled with suppressed anger: What! [Am I to have a daughter-] one who is to be reared [only] for the sake of ornament? - thereupon he finds himself torn by a vague inner conflict…(43:15-19

http://www.mwlusa.org/publications/essays/herstory.html

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First part I appreciate…but again the reasons are given in next paragraph to condone this dispikble act negates the agreement in first paragraph.

Anyone else man enough to clearly and categorically (without spreading confusions)… condemns this shameful act being practiced in Hindia even in these days???
Or maybe not!

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there are women walking around in india and going to exceed the population of china . how we ended up with such overpopulation and more densly populated
country without women? pakistanis shoould not worry we wont disappear .

these things happen in pakistan too

Nevertheless, estimates suggest that by 2020, there will be an excess of
four million men. This suggests that, when roughly even numbers of each sex
may expect to be born, an almost equal number of girls have not survived.

Pakistan is one of the few countries in the world where population gender
statistics are skewed in favour of men, demographers say. Out of a
population of 149 million people, there are already 105 men for every 100
women, according to the latest demographic pro
http://www.un-instraw.org/revista/hypermail/alltickers/en/0086.html

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Well, maybe Pakistan makes more men than in Hindia where despite all these measures and horrible crimes against unborn females, women are still more than men. Now that was just a sarcasm as I hope even you could understand.

But real thing is even so called men are not man enough to condemn it despite posts after posts.
Now why would worry about women when some men are trying to hide behind either finger pointing or statistics???

Still waiting for one sentence of condemnation from a 'single’Hindian.
Maybe I should have requested a woman from India!!! Others have disaapointedly been quiet so far.

I as a muslim and Pakistani man categorically comdemn such acts of humanity crimes WHEREEVER, WHENEVER they might be occuring…!!!

See A muslim Pakistani is not so bad afterall! :slight_smile:

Time Pass
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Mybe I am wrong in my assumption........maybe its women I was posting to before!!

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only way is to empowerment of women

Woman jumps into canal with four daughters

FAISALABAD (APP) - A dejected married woman along with her four daughters jumped into Gogera branch canal in the outskirts of Jaranwala on Saturday after noon. According to police, a lady Ghulam Fatima wife of Ashiq was resident of Syedwala. She had 3 daughters, 10 years old Kishwar, 8 years old Muqaddas and 6 years old Shaista.
About 10 month ago she gave birth to another baby girl Umrana. It fomented the gender issue in the family and her in-laws and husband were continuously scolding her. Fed up with the constant mental torture, the dejected lady took her daughters to Jaranwala and jumped into the Gogera Branch Canal. The people present on the scene raised alarm. Some of them jumped into the canal and succeeded in saving 10-year-old Kishwar and 10-month-old Umrana.
The poor lady and her 2 daughters are still missing and are reported dead. However, the divers are still searching for the bodies

http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/aug-2005/21/index15.php