Modernization does not equate to Westernization. We can still speak in our own language and cling on to basics of our culture, and at the same time adopt better technologies and ideas from the West!
Except for the adopting of the Western dress (though the native dress is still respected for special occasions) and other minor stuff, the Japanese have retained their unique culture and take pride in it. LANGUAGE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF CULTURE! And the Japanese have successfully preserved their Japanese language and promoted it. Japanese language gives them great pride and unites them as a nation. Other cultural aspects of the Japanese are still alive and prospering such as their cuisine, arts, manners, customs, etc. And what they mostly adopted from the West is their innovative technologies/sciences and capitalist-democratic ideologies. This has given them great respect worldwide for taking pride in their own culture and identity making them a strong united nation, and at the same time prospered tremendously in its economy by adopting modern technologies and ideas.
I am NOT a supporter of Islamists or Arabs either.. so stop you nonsense labels.
Just one of the aspects of culture. Arabs are the most proud about their culture, yet they are so pathetic in every thing else.
Go do compartive study on the role of language, before arguing like Arabs. Some of the most underdeveloped people are really stuck with ancient languages.
Even when English is official language of Pakistan, it does not replace "pride in Pushto, Balochi, Sindhi, Punjabi, and BIMAROU state language URDU/ HINDI".
Okay here's a small quiz for Pakistanis to test their Hindi (please try not to google, but think on your own) :.....
So the difference in the translation of Wazir to Pardhan will change BIMAROU state to Sehat-Mondu (healthy)? Many you must be kidding. Bihar will stay BIMAR until it gets out of the clutches of Hindi (or Urdu, or 30/70 Hindi/Urdu).
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If you really admire Japanese, then it is time that Pakistanis made blue suites compulsory for the businessmen, and skirts for professional-women. It is time that Pakistani girl students quit wearing Shalwar Qameez (the sleeping dress) and wear uniforms of European sailors.
This may not be possible as Jahils in Pakistan will continue copying Jahils of Arabia.
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Hey pandit ji, how exactly would muslim women dressing like sluts by wearing skirts produce prosperity? Is this one of those sufi/hindu nonsensical beliefs that you need 'great spirituality' to understand or will you share this profound insight with the rest of us jahils?
Pradhan Mantri. Bihar, Allahabad and Patna will definitely find a bridge with the south when they are renamed Magadha, Prayaga and Patliputra respectively.
You see, the south hates Urdu and not Hindi, which is closer to Sanskrit--a language the south-Indians are masters at.
Besides, tis the Biharis and UP wallas who call the shots in Mumbai, a city whose GDP is 30% of India.
Anyway, where are my answers ? I''ll re-post the questions.
Pakistan4Ever is very right in pointing that for a distinct identity for people of Pakistan and to break the interface between India and Pakistan, Urdu/Hindi would have to be replaced by another language.
Why the languages of the land should have a secondary status?
Moreover, I register my protest and reserve the right to register it on other fora that my son was not taught his mother tongue but a foreign language without my wish or choice and voilating his natural right...
Actually according to census figures, Punjabi is spoken by 48% of Pakistanis. I would like to see this 48% figure further decreased by identifying the Hindkowi-speakers separate/distinct from Punjabis.
You cant go on giving official status to Seraiki Hindko etc.. they are more like dialects of Punjabi. why do you want to see the figure of 48% go down further? This is pure racism from.. dont mess with Punjabis - otherwise consequences will be not good, Pakistan4Never:grumpy:
This has already been discussed in detail before. Seraiki is NOT a dialect of Punjabi. Seraiki language, culture, history, and identity is unique/disinct in the same way Punjabi and Sindhi are. Seraiki language is basically a blend of Sindhi and Punjabi languages thus making it a distinct from others. Seraiki lands in the southern portion of the so called Punjab (Multan, Bahawalpur, etc) have historically been much more closer to Sindh than the rest of Punjab. It were the British who for the first time in history annexed Seraiki lands to Punjab province. The govt of Pakistan’s census figures gives the demographics of Seraiki speakers separate from Punjabi speakers.
On the other hand, Hindko can be argued to be a dialect of Punjabi but many dispute that including most of the Hindko-speakers. Most Hindko-speakers associate themselves racially closer to Pathans (some even call themselves Pathans).
The reason I want Punjabi numbers go down further is based on facts and fairness (not racism)… this will also eliminate the perception of Punjabi domination.
Stop thsi nonsense abt urdu being imposed on anyone. The same people u adore and admire and praise for being part of the tehrik that created pakistan were also responsible, in part or in full, of deciding that urdu shd be our national language. It is a mix of many languages whose people are part of our country and/or our heritage in some way. It also has many arabic words in it, which is our religious language really.
These are probably a few of the reasons urdu was the “chosen” language. It is also sophisticated and with a beautiful sound to it. Plus its easier to understand then some others in Pak.
It is also widely accepted in Pak. In fact i know many punjabi’s who dont like communicating in punjabi. Most people dont hv a problem w/it at all , accept ofcourse for a few like u.
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I am 200% percent in support of Pakistan4ever, many people have been saying this for years..... Urdu is not enriching Pakistan and rather pulling people our people towards south asia and closer to Hinduism, bollywoodism and internationally painted Pakistani culture under an Indian brush. I am Puktun myself who can speak(english,panjabi, sindhi urdu and of course pushto) so I support giving the regional languages proper status and the national language into Persian/Dari. I like the idea that ppl should learn their mother tongue and learn an additional provincial language(like in Canada-ppl speak english in public, mother tongue at home like chinese/italian, and learn French/German as an additional language credit in school) so it is very much possible. PLus i would love it if more pakistanis learned Pushto, and more pukhtuns could learn about other regions too and when problems arise we can all switch to Daari/Persian. It makes sense from a historical, cultural, linguistic point of view. All of our historical sites in Pakistan are mostly written in ancient persian. Even Allama Iqbal, who started writting in Persian, then switched to Ordoo, found the language too limited and so in the end he reverted back to Persian which he called the 'PURE, BETTER & More EXPRESIVE'' language. Also, for the sake of our future generations, we need to enrich them rather than have them learn a mix language(Urdu is to Persian as what Jamaican is to English) If u go to Karachi now, u can see a few Panjabi and even Pukthtuns who can only speak urdu now and not their mother tongue! (such a shame as now, they have lost their cultural and historical heritage and linguistically, have more in common with northern india than they do with Pakistan) People usually try to enrich themselves upwards, not downwards! Many people have been stating that the national language needs to be changed to persian and a small minority are saying to make Urdu more Pakistanized (Pak Urdu- bring it into the Iranian fold of Indo-European-though this will take longer) but something has to be done. But with Dari/Persian already established, and the fact that the language belongs to no sizeable large group in Pakistan, not favouring any group,it will be the best choice for Pakistan and in some ways is part of our destiny. Hopefully Pakistan4ever, as the literacy rate picks up, the change will come eventually, The sooner the better.
Demoting Urdu can only be done on paper.. In reality, most Pakistanis communicate with other through Urdu as far as I know.. It would be great of all Pakistanis could understand and communicate in the respective languages, but in reality, everyone will use Urdu as the lingua franca. So what difference does it make?
If suddenly we made non mandatory, how would anyone communicate?
why do you want to see the figure of 48% go down further? This is pure racism from.. dont mess with Punjabis 
- otherwise consequences will be not good, Pakistan4Never:grumpy: