indian Train incident NOT by Muslim MOBS!

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I will post a detailed reply.Its 4:00 am and I am drained out from a hard day. But here is the difference between you & me. Here is CR’s book on Mahabarhata:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0897449290/002-6550858-4689642

No concoctions like the Manusmriti without neutral evidence.

Now you seem to be too eager to talk about the best hindu historians. I am all game about it. Lets not bug the others. Open a new thread and I SIMPLY WILL NOT PUT UP WITH CONCOCTIONS. YOU WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE A SEMBLANCE OF EVIDENCE BEFORE ANY BLATHER.

And I will be free to use sanskrit. The English text on Indian history carry cupious references to sanskrit words. So get a primer on it. For example know what a Lingam means in Sanskrit in case you have concluded from hate sites that its a penis. Otherwise I promise you will cut a sorry figure.
Your bull **** is being exposed systematically. First your lid on not being able to provide any evidence to a single quote was exposed and now you have tried to slither away by saying you know more about writings in hindu history. I promise this wil be the last nail in your coffin.

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ibrahim start reading http://femina.indiatimes.com/

if you want to know what is happening now.

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Ibrahim says : sundaram, ** after you have rested and when ever you are free,** just answer my questions as I posed them to you on this thread… Thanks

otherwise don't waste my time by jumping from one issue to another (tree to tree like a monkey) without settling anything but endless spinning , twist and turns every step of the way.

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Ibrahim, there is no need to waste your time on Sundaram. The guy is jumping from topic to topic, not answering the questions raised by you, and if asked something, gives answer to something else.

Instead of accepting the quotes, and trying to interpret them in some other way, he is going off in different directions.

How typical and predictable of a Hindu !

**Ibrahim, my personal advice is instead of wasting your precious time on such people, you should put down your thoughts in a book form. Consider it a request.

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/smile.gif

**

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*For example know what a Lingam means in Sanskrit in case you have concluded from hate sites that its a penis.
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Ok lets think of it this way. Suppose there's a pagan religion whose origins are quite old. Over a period of thousands of years, a lot of stuff (sometimes nasty) gets into its scriptures. ** At that time, when everyone was illiterate, uneducated and uncivilised except for a few, worshipping the penis must not have looked disgusting. People wouldn't have seen anything wrong with that. **

Then centuries later, all of a sudden we are in the 21st Century and a substantial portion of the population is not only educated, but has exposure to far more civilised and decent religions. ** But to one's horror, those people, instead of dissassociating themselves with that pagan religion seem to cling on to it because of their hatred to the true religion. ** So, now they are in a Muslim forum, discussing with Muslims about their religion.

** Do you then expect them to actually accept in such a situation that their religion calls for the worship of the penis? NO.. ** If they had a little, microscopic amount of a decency, they would have left that religion. *But if they insist to cling on to it, they are OBVIOUSLY going to try to interpret it in a different manner and pretend that the worship of penis is actually something else. *

** I mean, IS THERE ANY THING ELSE THEY CAN DO? THEY HAVE NO OPTION BUT THAT. It is so embarassing otherwise. **

I mean you have a person belonging to a religion that calls for the worship of the penis, and that person refuses to disassociate himself with that religion, and but instead preaches his religion on a Muslim forum - What other option does he have but to say that lingam is not penis?

So here we are, listening that lingam doesn't mean a penis. I'm not surprised. ** It was only natural

If Lingam does not mean a penis, what does it mean then? NO running about in tangents please. And if it means something else, then : *(1) Why is it regarded by many Hindus to mean a penis? Why did this concept emerge at all in the first place? (2) Why do many Hindus worship the penis? (3)What proof or logic do you have that it means something else, and that it was always intended to mean something else? *

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*I promise this wil be the last nail in your coffin. *
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Some frustration I see there !

[This message has been edited by Indian_Muslim (edited March 15, 2002).]

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penis , rivers fertile land lush green forest
sensouous women all part of enjoyment and merry making .
it is better than killing eah other for beliefs.

[This message has been edited by rvikz (edited March 16, 2002).]