Ali; I was asking questions based on the claim of "Indians" being retards. Indians include 120,000,000 Muslims.
*Anyway the main problem is that we muslims can't back each other.
And if we failed to achieve something (whatever it is) then we have to blame it on us. On people like you and me. *
You got that right. Not unless we begin to look at ourselves will we begin to make a change. As I have said before, let us start with ourselves and not worry about what the West is doing to us. It will only do to us what we let it. This is a very simplistic statement but one that will require our lifetime to see fruitation....if we decide that's the future we really want. If that's the decision then I guess one of the requirements would be to start implimenting some of the basic human rights rules and regulations that Islam requires from all of us...besides increasing the religious adherence...but I remember a poster from New Zealand who said that the world recognizes us as Muslims to the extent that we show it in practice not in belief. That was on SCP, newsgroup's society.culture.Pakistan, which I left due to the same thing that I see go on here aaaalll the time. Talk to no end but there is NEVER any talk of actions/steps.....never any signs of action-based talk, never any signs of concerted efforts for anything. It's all talk all the time. I have seen very few who have shown that they are not part of this scenario.
*Jannu more than half of population is uneducated. What you want then? *
Let me ask you: What do YOU want?
I tell you what I want: I want to identify organizations that show that they are doing educational work in Pakistan. I want to see them highlighted everywhere like Edhi which I prefer when sending humanitarian charity to Pakistan. You tell me what you want?
*These are biggots, but they do exist every where not only in Pakistan. *
I have zero-tolarance from Muslims. If they have read the Quran then they KNOW what is required of them. Or what have they studied? No, they are not biggots, they are freakin' retards....like this Qazi guy...he's got the blood of children on his hands.
*Yeah maybe you wouldn't but I would. I go there every year I don't feel any problem. *
No, thank you. I live in a country where I am more a Muslim then I would be in Pakistan. Pakistan can set you up to burn in hell for a very long time. I have already been to pay bribe in my one and only trip there. I hope to God I don't go back there. My Mom's been there two times since moving to U.S. Both times she's had traumatic experiences. One time cops robbed them and another time, when trying to get a National Identity card, she was asked to put her bribe money in the drawer by an old man with white hair (even the eye brows) since he could not touch it due to him being with wazu and on his way to Asr.
And I was not born in America, I was born in Nazimabad, Karachi.
*There are enough people who condemn those MULLAH (enough!) and still they are living there. *
Ironic. This is the termite that is eating Islam inside out.
Maybe you know the person who helped Pak making the nukes become reality
No, I don't. But I am thinking of Dr. Abdus-Salam.... what a loss for Pakistan due to it's own stupidity.
they never stopped loving Pakistan.
Me neither. If, for me, it was all about Islam, I'd on another forum. But I have a much higher expectation from Pakistanis and for that I become a high synic. I have seen Pakistanis in my life in U.S. I am impressed of what they have been able to accomplish. I truly think that Pakistan is a goldmine only waiting for the right hands to dig it. Education is the only tool....even as the Quran dictates to the Musilms.....so isn't it our responsibility to see that educational activities are fostered, supported, nurtured in Pakistan and elsewhere in the Muslim world.
First words in Islam were "Iqra".... I think that time has come again.