Indian space Quest: Time to land on Moon

Despite all domestic issues, India took a major step by landing the satellite on Mars. Ofcourse it was widely hailed for being the first Asian country and also doing it on much lower cost.

Now making further progress their ambition is to land on moon.

I have very little doubt that they wont be able to do it but the question is, what about other severe issues India is facing inhouse in terms of extremist hindus, poverty, child labor etc.

Dont forget India still has one of the biggest lower class population getting crushed in the hands of elite.

After Mars, India space chief aims for the moon – The Express Tribune

After Mars, India space chief aims for the moon
By AFP
Published: November 11, 2014

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Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) chairman K. Radhakrishnan speaks during an interview with an AFP reporter in New Delhi on November 11, 2014. PHOTO: AFP

****NEW DELHI: India now has its sights set on low-budget missions to the moon and the sun after becoming the first country in Asia to reach Mars, the head of its space agency said Tuesday.India has been swelling with pride since winning the continent’s race to Mars in Septemberwhen its unnamed Mangalyaan spacecraft slipped into the Red Planet’s orbit after a 10-month journey on a shoestring budget.The mission, designed to search for evidence of life on Mars, sparked mass celebrations which were especially sweet as India also became the only country to reach the planet on its first attempt.Buoyed by the success, Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) chairman K S Radhakrishnan said the agency was forging ahead with plans to land an unnamed craft on the moon, along with a satellite to study the sun.“The aim is three years from now, an Indian lander and Indian rover will land on the moon,” he told AFP.“We have a programme to study the sun that is by putting a satellite into the sun-Earth Lagrangian point,” he said, referring to the position where the satellite, held by the pair’s gravitational pull, can orbit with them.China completed its first return mission to the moon last month with the successful re-entry and landing of an unmanned probe, but Radhakrishnan played down talk of a space-age rivalry between the world’s two most populous countries.“We don’t race with any country. We have our own priorities,” he added.But Radhakrishnan did acknowledge India was “certainly” eyeing a greater slice of the $300-billion global space market, by making and launching communication, weather, navigational and other satellites for foreign countries.The Mars mission highlighted India’s launch vehicle, called the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV), which has long been in “high demand” from countries needing their satellites blasted into orbit.“We have launched 40 satellites for other countries, 19 countries have used the PSLV,” Radhakrishnan said.ISRO this year successfully tested a second vehicle, called the Geostationary Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV), capable of launching heavier satellites that countries are clamouring to have fired into space.“At the moment there are no contracts (for the GSLV) but discussions are going on,” he said in an interview in New Delhi.India ranks among the top six space-faring nations in technological capabilities — after the US, Russia, the European Space Agency, Japan and China, the chairman said.But ISRO manages to compete with the big boys on a tiny budget, with the Mars mission costing just $74 million.“If you look at the expenditure, we use 7.5% of what (the US space agency) NASA spends on space research,” the chairman said.ISRO has helped keep costs down in part by using a myriad of Indian companies to help build its space programme, with nearly 122 local firms assisting on the Mars mission.India has come a long way since it began its space programme half a century ago when it set up the first rocket launch pad in a field in the southern state of Kerala. A church in a fishing village was the agency’s main office.The chairman said the agency was reaping the benefits of years of hard work, after sticking to its “mantra of self reliance” rather than relying on other countries for assistance.Western sanctions were slapped on India after it staged a nuclear weapons test in 1974.ISRO also remained committed to its national mandate of benefitting the “common man” – for example by launching Indian satellites that help with weather projections and disaster management – in a country with tens of millions of poor.“Twenty-two years we worked on it (a launch vehicle for satellites and other craft) and we got it. We adapted and we improved,” he told a group of defence experts on Tuesday.“It was not a soft route, it was the hard route.”

I am all for space exploration, and cheered for India's mars mission as it was their first. But what is the need of another unmanned (or even manned) lunar mission, I fail to understand

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As from Mars quest they have clearly explained that their ultimate goal is to have space stations in India hosted for other countries who want their space missions (in simple words outsourcing). Thats why low cost plays such an important role. So no if they are able to land on moon, they can certainly get more monetary benefits and more orders. Perfect business approach like they way they adopted for IT :)

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bravo, India…aim and shoot for the moon. i’ll volunteer to be the FIRST Indian on the moon…beGham ko bhii saath le jaauuNgaa…udhar hii family banaauuNga :wink:

GO, INDIA, GO**!**

[saHeeH English waalaa…NOT…GO, Nawaz, GO! waalaa :cb:]

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You know the bodies float due to loss of weight in space, right? I mean i’m just doubting the family banaeng plan :chai:

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are bhai ek bag aataa hai jis meN bachchoN ko kas kar lapeT dete haiN jisko ‘swaddling’ kahte haiN…vo double-size adult side bag le jaauuNgaa saath meN…aur phir ab to science bahot taraqqi kar gaii hai…chaand par jaa sakte haiN to chaand par family banaane ke tareeqe bhii nikal aayeNge. :cb:

saare bachche “Moonie” kahlaayeNge! :smiley:

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urgh...don't desis like going OTT with everything!

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OTT bolay to?? :konfused:

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Acronym: Over The Top. To do more than or go further than is necessary, esp. due to over-enthusiasm.
Urban Dictionary: OTT

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Agreed then. We do go OTT especially if we have KKF and the topic goes towards family planning. Ok j/k again going OTT i guess :\

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While ambitious India trying to conquer Space like US, wonder how much they spend on the money on women and children die everyday:

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1 Women Die After Botched Government Sterilizations in India

By ELLEN BARRY and SUHASINI RAJNOV. 11, 2014

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Indian Officials on Sterilization Deaths

Indian Officials on Sterilization Deaths

Officials and activists discussed the deaths of the women who underwent sterilization surgery at a government-run “health camp” in the central Indian state of Chhattisgarh.
Publish DateNovember 11, 2014. Photo by Associated Press.

NEW DELHI — Eleven women have died and dozens more were sickened after surgical sterilizations at a government-run camp inIndia, where women are often paid to undergo the procedures in an effort to control population growth, health officials said on Tuesday.
The women were paid 600 rupees apiece, or almost $10, said Dr. Amar Singh Thakur, joint director of health services in the central Indian district of Bilaspur. One surgeon performed surgery on 83 women in the space of six hours on Saturday — meaning he could have spent only a few minutes on each patient, Dr. Thakur said.
The women began to fall ill around five hours after being discharged, Dr. Thakur said, experiencing giddiness, vomiting and low blood pressure. Sixty-eight women are being treated for septic shock in hospitals, and four are in serious condition and on ventilators, he said.
State officials said evidence pointed to negligence on the part of the surgeon, Dr. R. K. Gupta. Amar Agrawal, the health minister in the state of Chhattisgarh, where the sterilizations took place, said Dr. Gupta had not sterilized his surgical instruments.

Echoes of India’s Painful Past

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  • During a two-year state of emergency that began in 1975, Prime Minister Indira Gandhi led an aggressive campaign of sterilization that was later deemed to be a violation of human rights.

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  • In 1976, she announced that ‘‘strong steps which may not be liked by all’’ were under consideration. More than six million sterilizations, many forced, were performed. Violent protests ensued.
  • After Mrs. Gandhi’s resounding election defeat in 1977, the new governmentshunned old measures and sterilizations declined to 188,000 in 1977 and 1978.

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Dr. Gupta denied any culpability in a telephone interview, saying the women were well when they left the hospital.
“They went back to their villages and went to the village quacks who gave them antibiotics,” he said. The vomiting and abdominal pain, he said, “are all a reaction to these medicines.”
Dr. Gupta confirmed having performed 83 surgical sterilizations in six hours with two assistants. He said he had performed 50,000 sterilizations in his career, in private and government hospitals.
India has a tumultuous history with sterilization, dating to the 1970s, when a ruthless, coercive campaign was carried out under Indira Gandhi. Though the country recoiled at those measures, in recent years many state-level policy makers have favored a tough approach to population control and begun introducing incentives — often financial — to discourage families from having more than two children.
Fertility rates in India have been in decline for decades, to about 2.5 children per woman now from six in the 1950s. Mass sterilizations are frequently performed in India, and human rights activists have long complained that they are done hastily and under dangerously unsanitary conditions.
The Bilaspur deaths mark the largest loss of life during a sterilization drive in recent history.
Reeta Netam and Madhulata Yadav, two patients who spoke by telephone from the hospital, said a village health worker had gone door to door inviting women to have the surgery, and then reclaimed one-third of each woman’s compensation as a fee for transportation.
Ms. Netam, 23, and Ms. Yadav, 26, each has several children — three and four, respectively — and said they had willingly agreed to the procedure. But both suggested that the money was an inducement. Ms. Netam said her husband earned 100 rupees a day as a farmhand.
“We thought it would be best to get sterilization done,” Ms. Netam said. “It was not only free, but we were also given 600 rupees, out of which the worker kept 200 rupees for the van to carry us to the hospital.”

Mr. Agrawal, the state health minister, said authorities had filed a criminal complaint against Dr. Gupta.
In a news release, Raman Singh, leader of the state, said sterilization was a national program, carried out under the auspices of the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare. “There should not be any laxity in such an important program,” he said.
Conducting the surgery safely is time-consuming, since it takes 25 to 30 minutes to sterilize and prepare the laparoscope used in the operation, said Dr. Raman Kataria, who works with Jan Swasthya Sahyog, a nongovernmental organization that carries out sterilizations in the Bilaspur district. Under those constraints, he said, it would be unsafe to try to conduct more than two, or possibly three, per hour.
“This incident is a reflection of a very bad, poor system, of a nonexistent and nonaccountable public health system, where such tragedies are waiting to happen,” Dr. Kataria said. He said there were regular reports of one or two deaths after health fairs, as the events are also called, but this was the worst he could remember.
India carries out roughly 37 percent of the world’s female sterilizations, according to a 2011 report by the United Nations. The percentage for China was around 28.
For decades, state governments were given specific targets for sterilizations and developed a “camp approach,” in which surgeons perform dozens of sterilizations in the course of a few hours, said Dr. Abhijit Das, director of the New Delhi-based Center for Health and Social Justice.
Those methods were challenged in the mid-1990s, when India endorsed the conclusions of a United Nations conference on population, which called for abandoning contraceptive targets, improving educational programs and offering women voluntary contraceptive choices. Safety standards were introduced, recommending that a surgeon perform no more than 30 procedures a day.
But high-pressure campaigns are still used in states with high fertility rates, like Chhattisgarh and Madhya Pradesh, said Dr. Das, who recalled meeting a surgeon in Madhya Pradesh who claimed to be doing 250 to 300 operations per day. He said the traditional practice was for women to lie on a row of tables, with three health care workers on hand — one preparing the patient, one carrying out the surgery and one stitching up the wound.
He said the most common complication was infected wounds.
The practice drew attention in 2012 when a surgeon in the northern state of Bihar performed sterilizations on 53 women over the course of two hours, leaving three women bleeding profusely and prompting a miscarriage in one. A lawsuit brought by human rights advocates against the Indian government in the case asserts that the surgeon operated atop student desks, wore the same gloves throughout and left his patients lying on straw mats on the ground.
Chhattisgarh is one of the poorest states in India, with a population of more than 25 million. The poverty rate is 49 percent, and literacy and health indicators are poor, according to the United Nations Development Program. A decade ago, the state introduced a law requiring local elected officials to have two or fewer children.

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You can’t be. Mallus are already there.

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lolz...Mallus can live in peace there as well...No Problemo! :)

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Lord Subramanya had travelled the entire universe long time back. Thrice. Why go to the moon now?

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OP post 1 ... Landing Satellite on Mars?

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I think it will be money well spent if we send all nuclear bombs to the sun ...

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also all religious leaders and preachers to the sun. those evil snakes be more deadly to humanity than nukes.

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And along with them atheists who have queeny attitude.

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Which solar system and planet did he hail from? Its too bad that type of advanced civilization dont bother to visit earth anymore.

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Its their money, let them do with it what they will. Still a better place to "waste" your money then on Siachin.