*Ribbons of protest on Bakr-eid against extremists who are exploiting religion
Prayers were offered in Mecca for those who lost their lives in the Mumbai attacks
*India 360: Bakr Eid, a silent celebration post 26/11: IBNLive.com > Videos
so proud of Indian Muslims for speaking up, shows indian spirit and unity during these horrible times. :)]
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^ The Muslim groups in Mumbai also refused to bury the terrorists. I hope these efforts to divide Hindus & Muslims in India do not work.
“Muslims feel obliged to take up token gestures to distance themselves from the b******s behind the 26/11 horror. But why are Indian Muslims perpetually required to prove their patriotism?”
Naseeruddin Shah
“I’m a little uncomfortable with the thought that Indian Muslims have to go that extra mile to prove their allegiance with tokens of protest like the black band. Why just Muslims? Every Indian should be wearing black bands on the same day so that all of us can stand and be counted as one nation.”
Kabir Khan (director of Kabul Express and New York)
Star Talk – All you Indian muslims wear black band on this Eid: Dia Mirza
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^ FYI - other communities and groups have already protested with black bands/candles etc. I guess Indian Muslims just wanted to prove a point to the terrorists and their harborers by doing this on Id.
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I'm sure Indian Muslims participated in those other vigils/protests/rallies as well as Indians.
The issue that some critics have rightly brought up is the obligation to go above an beyond what other Indians have, because they are Muslim and therefore somehow more "responsible."
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^ No one forced them to show their Indian credentials. They did it themselves, as did the Muslim organizations who decided to not to bury the terrorists in Mumbai. I know its difficult for you all to understand that the Indian Muslims can have patriotism towards India without having any pressure to do so.
well didn’t a FEW misguided indian muslims see dawood ibrahim as a hero when he sponsored the mumbai blasts in 92, maybe that’s why there is a certain wrong view that all indian muslims feel that way.
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many temples in pakistan were also demolished but I didn’t see pak hindus taking revenge by planning bomb blasts in pakistan.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with Indian muslims going the extra mile to condemn terrorism. Some terrorists are
NOTE: Refrain from generalisation!
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^ No one forced them to show their Indian credentials. They did it themselves, as did the Muslim organizations who decided to not to bury the terrorists in Mumbai
They're doing it "on their own" because of the pressure put upon them by Indian society. I sincerely doubt that they enjoy constantly having to prove their patriotism...but as we're getting news of Muslims being banned from purchasing homes in an entire city as backlash from these attacks, its becoming clear such constant demonstrations of "Indian credentials" are necessary to survive in such a deeply bigoted society.
many temples in pakistan were also demolished but I didn't see pak hindus taking revenge by planning bomb blasts in pakistan.
Perhaps overall they don't feel as vulnerable in Pakistani society as Muslims do in India? They also didn't feel the need to wear black ribbons and carry out special protests to express their disgust at Hindu terror in Gujarat, or on the Samjhauta Express, or Indian war crimes in Kashmir...and nor should they feel obligated to.
In any case, we're not talking about the 1993 blasts, we're talking about last month's attacks, which the Indian government seems to believe were carried out by Pakistanis. And yet, Indian Muslims still are feeling the need to actively demonstrate that they weren't associated with the attacks.
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^^ If the rest of India feels outraged by this incident, why not the Indian muslims ? Just because a particular group or Muslims in Kashmir feel that they should be independent or part of Pakistan, does not mean all Muslims in India feel that way. Dont forget that most of the Indian Muslims stayed back in India of their own volition instead of going to the "Land of Pure" which was specifically created for Muslims.
I know its tough to accept, but thats the reality...
^^ If the rest of India feels outraged by this incident, why not the Indian muslims ?
Clearly you're having trouble understanding basic written English. I have no problem with Indian Muslims feeling outrage over these attacks. I don't even consider myself Indian, and yet I feel outraged over them.
The issue is societal bigotry and prejudice in India, which forces Indian Muslims to go above and beyond their compatriots in condemning such terrorism. There's almost an implicit guilt by association at play here, as they feel the need to jump through all sorts of hoops to "prove their Indianness."
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^ Rather than try to prove their "Indianness", they are trying to disassociate themselves from the terrorists who carried out their acts in the name of Islam.
I am not the one who is having trouble understanding basic written English; its you and your likes who have always tried to paint Indian Mulsims as Muslims and not Indians and have trouble accepting the fact that when push comes to shove, Indian Muslims will go all out (like the rest of India) to prove that they are Indian.
^ Rather than try to prove their "Indianness", they are trying to disassociate themselves from the terrorists who carried out their acts in the name of Islam.
I am not the one who is having trouble understanding basic written English; its you and your likes who have always tried to paint Indian Mulsims as Muslims and not Indians and have trouble accepting the fact that when push comes to shove, Indian Muslims will go all out (like the rest of India) to prove that they are Indian.
Exactly!! They are just trying to isolate themselves from the radicals withing their religion. I'm dead sure the day hindu radicals start bombing cities all around the world the rest hindus will come out and voice similar sentiments.
Now that Islamic terrorism is such a global concern it is the duty of my muslim brothers to expose and openly oppose the radical elements in their community.
^ Rather than try to prove their "Indianness", they are trying to disassociate themselves from the terrorists who carried out their acts in the name of Islam.
Apparently, as the quotes posted above would indicate, some do feel as though they are being obliged to actively demonstrate their patriotism.
The fact they feel obligated to "dissociate themselves" from the terrorists (your words, not mine) carries with it an implicit understanding that they are by default associated with/responsible for such terrorism in the eyes of Indian society. Which would, of course, bring their patriotism and "Indianness" into question as well.
I was in New York in the aftermath of 9/11, and I mourned like any other New Yorker, I don't recall ever feeling the need to jump through any special hoops to "dissociate" myself from any terrorists (nor do I recall Muslims being banned from purchasing homes in any American cities, but that's another issue). But I guess that's just the difference between India and a functional secular society.
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^Its pretty clear who does not understand basic written english here. There is a difference between "trying to disassociate themselves from the terrorists" and "feel obligated to dissociate themselves from the terrorists".
What you felt or did after 9/11 was your choice. I am not sure how deeply you feel for the US. But these people are Indians - whatever their religion, they owe their survival, their livelihood to India. Its no different than people from other religions. When Hindus protest, no one bats an eyelid since its considered obvious for them to protest. So why does it seem odd for you that a majority of Indian Muslims feel for their country ?
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Here is my question:
Why is communalism such a strong force in India? More importantly why do Minorities need to show that they are part of India? Hardly a positive development.
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^ Question back to you - when the rest of India is uniting to condemn such acts, why shouldnt Muslims (or other minorities) do that as well ? They are also Indian citizens, and were as affected by 26/11 as the rest of India.
^Its pretty clear who does not understand basic written english here. There is a difference between "trying to disassociate themselves from the terrorists" and "feel obligated to dissociate themselves from the terrorists".
Again:
Apparently, as the quotes (and countless other opeds and pieces) posted above would indicate, many do feel as though they are being obliged to actively demonstrate their patriotism.
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^ There will always be some people who feel differently. To each his own...
You for example did not care to openly come out and show your support for USA after 9/11. I did !!