Indian moslems intermarrying hindus epidemic

JILTED LADY COP BATTERS LOVER TO DEATH 
 
 
FROM ANAND SOONDAS
 
Lucknow
An upright police officer, she lived with him out of wedlock. She paid
her price: her family turned against her and she was branded “loose”.
He, however, left her in return to marry someone else. He also started
blackmailing her and asked her to “entertain” his friends as well.

In answer, she killed him.

Another journey up the garden path ended in bloody death when Shabnam
Khan, a sub-inspector in the Women’s Complaint Cell in Bareilly, killed
her paramour Arvind Pratap Singh on Sunday night. Arvind was also a
police sub-inspector.

Later Shabnam turned herself in at the police station. She is in police
custody, under suspension.

Shabnam beat Arvind to death when he visited her on Sunday. She had
planned her moves well. First she laced his drink with sleeping pills
and then, when her attempt at slitting his wrist failed, bludgeoned him
to death with bricks.

Pretty, petite Shabnam had been fighting tremendous odds. Attached to
the senior superintendent’s office, she has been continuing her
association with Arvind against the wishes of her family.

She comes from a “respectable” background against which her tale of
passion stands out as murky. Neighbours also call her family “rich”. Her
father is the chief engineer in the state irrigation department here
while her brother is an MBA.

Shabnam, who lives in an affluent colony in the Cantonment area, met
Arvind during her training for the police force in Moradabad. A Master’s
degree-holder in chemistry, she joined in 1997 and had a record of being
“independent-minded” from the beginning.

On surrendering, Shabnam gave her version of the story and said why she
was “so mad at him”.

After having lived with Arvind despite the hurdles, Shabnam had hoped he
would marry her. But Arvind married someone else. That was the last
straw.

Shabnam said she had tried to dissociate herself from Arvind after his
marriage, but he kept pestering her to continue the affair. When she
refused, he started blackmailing her with photographs he had taken of
her in “compromising positions”.

Later Arvind started asking her to “entertain” his friends, Shabnam
claimed.

On the night of the murder, Arvind had said he had borrowed Rs 25,000
from some people and as he could not repay it she should “pay off the
debt” by granting his debtors sexual favours. She decided then that
“things had to be stopped somewhere”.

After the murder, Shabnam slept in the same room where Arvind’s body
remained stashed in a corner. When she recovered her composure “with a
bath”, Shabnam went to the police chowki.

A shadow of a doubt fell on her story, however, after the police
recovered four used plates from the murder site, suggesting she might
have taken help. The police, who are yet to get hold of Shabnam’s
photographs have found used condoms under her mattress.

Opinion on Shabnam’s “moral character” seems to be divided. While her
relatives have washed their hands of her, with none of her family having
visited her, her neighbours remain undecided.

“She seemed to be very stressed,” said one, stopping short of justifying
her action, while another said she used to have frequent fights with her
lover who she always accused of being unfaithful.

Policemen are crying foul against her. They took to the streets today
and blocked traffic. “There is much more than what meets the eye,” said
an investigating officer. “She was a woman of loose morals. Otherwise
how can a sub-inspector afford to live in a house like the one she was
living in?”

These are charges a single woman almost always has to put up with.
Shabnam lived in a flat that a bank manager occupied ea


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u mean if muslims marry only muslims and hindus marry only hindus, they will live happily ever after. there are no disappointments in such marriages??

why there is no date, no source on the news items or u got it from a cut and paste islamic site.

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**u mean if muslims marry only muslims and hindus marry only hindus, they will live happily ever after. there are no disappointments in such marriages??

why there is no date, no source on the news items or u got it from a cut and paste islamic site.**
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jUST AS THERE IS NO GUARANTEE IN LIFE FOR ANYTHING,DOESNT MEAN EXPERIMENTING WITH DRUGS OR LIFE STYLE IS THE ANSWER B/C AFTER ALL NO BODY CAN GUARANTEE EVEN IF YOPU DIDNT DO THOSE THINGS.
tHE BEHAVIOUR OF GIRL SHABNAM WAS TOTALLY FAHASHA NOT TO SPEAK UNISLAMIC.tHIS IS FROM ACTUAL NEWS IN iNDIAN NEWS PAPER TELEGRAPH & MAY BE OTHERS TOO 2 MONTHS AGO.uNTILL YOU CAN ENUMERATE ONE ADVANTAGE OF MARRYING A HINDU LECHEROUS CHEATING LOSER LIKE IN REPORT

(Note from Admin: Do not generalize your comments by suggesting that the actions of one represent the actions of a group. Stop the abuse and lower your case.)

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as if there are no bad husbands or wives among muslims. there was a photograph of lady whose nose was cut by her husband for some flimsy reason in 'dawn'. both muslims. there are bad people in all religions and ethnicities. there are good people too. nargis-sunil dutt lived happily together, for example.

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as if there are no bad husbands or wives among muslims. there was a photograph of lady whose nose was cut by her husband for some flimsy reason in 'dawn'. both muslims. there are bad people in all religions and ethnicities. there are good people too. nargis-sunil dutt lived happily together, for example.
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HOW DO YOU KNOW SHE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN EVEN HAPPIER HAD SHE MARRIED A NON ACTOR NICE RESPECTABLE MOSLEM?SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ALIVE NOT DEAD ,SHE MIGHT HAVE GIVEN BIRTH TO EVEN BETTER ACTOR THAN SANJAY DUTT.DONT JUST GO BY THE ACCEPTABILITY OF NON MOSLEM WORLD,THEY HAVE NO STAKE IN SEEING MOSLEM MARRY MOSLEM.mOSLEM DONT HAVE HIGHER %OF FAILED MARRIAGE THAN ANY OTHER RELIGION NOR IS THERE MORE SUCCESSFULL MARRIAGE AMONG LOVE MARRIED INTER RASCIAL INTERRELIGIOUS MARRIAGES.

As far as the Islamic perspective is concerned a muslim women cannot marry a non-muslim even if he is a christian or a jew (Ahl-e-Kitab). Although a male can have an Ahl-Kitab wife it is recommended that he marries from within the religion.
There are no ambiguities or grey areas in this regard. Any muslim weather practicing or non-practicing is aware of this fact and even then decides to go his/her way is free to choose.
We are not here to pass judgements on people and their conduct as Islam prohibits it totally. It is every man for himself and our duty is only to better ourselves as human beings by strictly following the tenants of Islam. What the girl Shabnam did is her problem and now she is paying for it as well. Nargis married Sunil Dutt and it was their choice as well. What is the guarantee that we by not marrying non-muslims have assured ourselves a position in paradise. Time and again we miss the big picture which is that it is equally difficult for muslims to make it to paradise if we dont get our act together.
So people please lets worry about our deeds and let the others leave alone.

Examples abound. Jackie Shroff's wife is muslim. despite in films, marriage seems to be going OK.
People suddenly remember religion when something happens. India's ex-navy chief Bhagwat's wife is muslim. He was fired by George Fernandes. His wife immediately alleged that he was fired cuz she is Muslim.

Agree with Rational 100%. In India this is pretty standard. Two of my cousins and one of my Uncle in India married Hindu Women who changed their religion and converted to Islam before they got married. I say Allah-O-Akbar and may Allah guide them and us all.

Sanam,

Please lower your case. It is impolite to post messages in capital letters.

Thanks.

well.. it is not yet common. but not very uncommon. hope it becomes common soon. hindu-christian marriages are plenty. hindu-sikh is anyway traditional. hindu-muslim marriages still are difficult to go through. particularly, in small towns it can even provoke communal tension. but if u are in bombay or some big place, none gives a damn.
i have seen one hindu-muslim marriage abroad failing. but that guy just went home and got married another time. that was terrible.
but in general, all marriages have their own stories and none can predict success or failure of a given relationship.

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Originally posted by zman:
Agree with Rational 100%. In India this is pretty standard. Two of my cousins and one of my Uncle in India married Hindu Women who changed their religion and converted to Islam before they got married. I say Allah-O-Akbar and may Allah guide them and us all.
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What would you say if instead of your male relatives if your female relatives married??.I know islamically....but in days of era no moslem women is stopping short of what men do socially.
Also in my college i have friend who is engaged to a indian moslem due to be married in 2001 is flirting with 4 different non moslems (hindu) & proudly so b/c she says she is not having sex with them so it is alright!

In the days of cyber sex,internet flirting,& if some one considers dating flirting innocuous b/c she graciously wont have sex for the relief of umma ,i think definition of virginity needs redifinition.

Sanam...>>i think definition of virginity needs redifinition.<<

I agree. It should be that a virgin is the one who has not made love to more than one person.

Times are changing.

Sanam,
Again what your friend is doing is her business, secondly the Ummah will not be relieved or guilt stricken if she is to have a relationship with any of her Hindu boyfriends. The sin will be equal even if she cultured a relationship with a muslim. Chastity is something we people in the sub-continent have been tought from an early age, with modernization values have changed for many, however it does not mean that what was wrong yesterday is right today. If she is a muslim and doing this then she is going against the dictates of Islam, if she is a hindu and doing this even then she is against her religion for no religion encourages fornication. This is not a religious thing rather a personal choice.

I cannot even imagine marrying a non-muslim women and none in my family would also do it. Relationships are ok but marriage is completely something defferent. After all I have said the Kalimah. I am a muslim.

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I cannot even imagine marrying a non-muslim women and none in my family would also do it. Relationships are ok but marriage is completely something defferent. After all I have said the Kalimah. I am a muslim.
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why relationships are ok and marriage is not. marriage is a responsible relationship.

Good point Ullo. If one is a muslim then as per the Islamic spirit one should not encourage a relationship with anyone (muslim or non-muslim) without the intentions of marrying the person

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Originally posted by Rational:
Sanam,
Again what your friend is doing is her business, secondly the Ummah will not be relieved or guilt stricken if she is to have a relationship with any of her Hindu boyfriends. The sin will be equal even if she cultured a relationship with a muslim. Chastity is something we people in the sub-continent have been tought from an early age, with modernization values have changed for many, however it does not mean that what was wrong yesterday is right today. If she is a muslim and doing this then she is going against the dictates of Islam, if she is a hindu and doing this even then she is against her religion for no religion encourages fornication. This is not a religious thing rather a personal choice.

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Rational you are right that certain morality is common to all cultures.I know & im not talking of living together surrogate mother gay lesbian,which is cndenmed by all.Im only talking about our religion & culture.For us koran directives are more than moral codes in social studies class,right.Our women are to be modest in dressing talking,interacting,being alone with gair marham etc.
It is our responsibility to enforce as much as possible our community values.Of course within law which can be tricky ,but still parents relatives community leaders do have some overider to personal freedom to the hilt.
A hindu girl is not taught haya ,hijab,the sense of women being tantalizing ,to discourage attention,attractiveness &unnecessary gaze.So more is expected if the boy or girl is moslem,eventhough islamic influence for 1000 yrs in india has seeped into hindu cultre too.

I dont understand this religious distinction. After living life of playboy, Imran Khan becomes an Islamist. Are Muslims less likely to be corrupt than non-muslims. Its seems otherwise. Are muslims less likely to look, plunder, rape, tell lies, cheat, not keep the word, whatever. No! Then what is this fuss of values about. At best religious people excel at hypocrisy.

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Originally posted by ullu:
I dont understand this religious distinction. After living life of playboy, Imran Khan becomes an Islamist. Are Muslims less likely to be corrupt than non-muslims. Its seems otherwise. Are muslims less likely to look, plunder, rape, tell lies, cheat, not keep the word, whatever. No! Then what is this fuss of values about. At best religious people excel at hypocrisy.
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Imran Khan or salman khan are not prophet mohommeds model follower.It is always possible for moslem to abandon there religion & become athaest or any thing else.
Yes a mosdlem as long he is in cointract with religion & mohommed is less likely to sdo those things.Its like member previlege if you have committed yourself to islam as a moslem i will have to give you premium on your word /action & expect to live upto the tenents of islam than non believer.

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Originally posted by ymirza:
I cannot even imagine marrying a non-muslim women and none in my family would also do it. Relationships are ok but marriage is completely something defferent. After all I have said the Kalimah. I am a muslim.
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why relationships are ok and marriage is not. marriage is a responsible relationship.**
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I really do not care about relationship(s) whatsoever.