Indian Kashmir group for probe into mystery graves

This is a new development so please do not say that this topic already is being discussed thank you very much.

Well i am posting this article because there are people who are living in denial and this article is yet another prove that no one with rational mind can deny the fact that there are thousands of innocent kashmiris killed by indian army.

International human rights groups have in the past called for a probe into whether the unmarked graves held bodies of civilians who have “disappeared” as Indian security forces struggle to contain the Muslim-majority region’s revolt.

Indian Kashmir group for probe into mystery gravesOn Wednesday,

December 02, 2009

A human rights group in Kashmir urged authorities Wednesday to launch a probe into 2,700 unmarked graves of people believed to have died as a result of the region’s revolt against Indian rule.

The International People’s Tribunal on Human Rights and Justice (IPT) has in the past three years documented the unidentified bodies buried in villages near Pakistan-administered Kashmir.

The independent Srinagar-based group, which calculates about 8,000 people have gone missing in the 20-year separatist insurgency, released a report entitled “Buried Evidence” detailing the “unknown, unmarked, and mass graves” that contain at least 2,900 bodies.

About 180 graves held two or more bodies, said the report, which surveyed 55 villages through interviews with gravediggers, graveyard managers and residents, and first information reports filed by the police.

“These graves include bodies of extrajudicial, summary, and arbitrary executions, as well as massacres committed by the Indian military and paramilitary forces,” the IPT said.

“The Government of India and the Government of Jammu and Kashmir must commit to, and enable, independent and transparent investigations into unknown, unmarked and mass graves,” it urged.

International human rights groups have in the past called for a probe into whether the unmarked graves held bodies of civilians who have “disappeared” as Indian security forces struggle to contain the Muslim-majority region’s revolt.

“There is bound to be a reasonable correlation between these graves and the people who have disappeared,” said IPT convener Angana Chatterji, an Indian professor who teaches anthropology in the United States.

“India and the international community should not ignore this report,” she said as it was unveiled in the presence of dozens of relatives of those missing.

A police officer who spoke on condition of anonymity said most of the bodies were likely those of Pakistani militants killed in fighting with Indian forces.

Last year police admitted there were more than 200 unmarked graves in one location but insisted they contained dead rebels and not civilians.

Police said it was not possible to identify every militant killed during gunbattles in Indian Kashmir.

The IPT report said that most of the more than 8,000 people who have gone missing in the region disappeared after their arrest by Indian security personnel.

Indian officials contend many of the missing had crossed over to Pakistan to join the insurgents.

The report also examined the deaths of 50 people labelled as militants by the Indian authorities and killed during shoot-outs with security forces, and concluded 41 were civilians.

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can anyone deny that there are many graveyards in pakistan without any marking on many graves...usually of poor people.....why not to paste the same article for those unmarked graves...
and dont tell me that muslims in pakistan are not getting killed for non of their fault....what you do with those bdies....

frankly i do not expect any sound reply from the opener of this thread...his replies are well known....

Yet again
as expected
ignoring the grave attrocities committed by indian extremist and indian army
its in the bloody i think..

well it only means our job is not done yet
showing you mirror after mirror lolz

but it only makes one look as a fool (nothing personal mate) when you keep on denying something the whole world knows its the truth, even indian government and indian media.
its just very amusing to see how people can bluntly deny the truth...........but the show must go on.............i am waiting for another amuzing post.

Marked gaves in Pakistan... LOL

You Indians make an art form of denying the obvious...

If the Allies ahd found unmarked mass graves in Nazi Germany, Im rather certain we would know who were in those graves....

The Nazis more then likely would have spouted the same lame diversionary bull crap... I suppose there are no unmarked graves in America or England either!

Come on.. We know you Indians are guilty of mass genocide. Human Rights group have documented this fact. Kashmiri people themselves attest to the fact that these people were innocent people murdered by the Hindu Raj.

You Indians need to get your heads out of your hyper nationalist you know whats... :)

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http://www.paklinks.com/gs/world-affairs/377017-mass-graves-indian-occupied-kashmir.html

///\repeat a lie thousand times, so that it looks like a truth…

and these people are more smart. they use whatever possible…the press they hate when it is against them becomes their love numero uno…when it is in their favor…they talk of repression in other areas and of complete military control but cannot explain how come a human right wing was moving freely in a sensitive areas…

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i wish they find all the terrorists with their heads attached to rifle tops... and their manhood bitten by dogs so that they cant use it post life as they wished to.... ha

Everything to an Indian that doesnt conform to the Indian understanding of the Universe is a lie…

I wish you people would also make the extraordinary claim that gravity itself is a lie, then jump from 50 storey building just to prove it!

I would commend that. But this denial of Indian genocide in Kashmir is down right disgusting.

Wow... Not only are you Hindu nationalist, your bigot as well.. Save the Islam swipes for some other forum, perhaps one of the countless uncivilized Indian forum.
Its because of people like you that Pakistan was created and why the Kashmir Muslims want to be free of you Hindus.

From what I hear however, its the Hindu terrorists that are running about with their members at half mast... Last I recall, after having "served" in Kashmir, your dog soldiers couldnt please their wives at the appropriate hour...:)

yes ofcourse hindus could be nationalists(what a collective word) but muslims usually are terrorists/or their supporters and you relish it so well in your country..it looks like these graves could be of pakistani soldiers who went missing fighting with jihadis..their families kept searching for them for years before they gave up..

How many innocent balochis did pakistan army slaughter in 62 and 73? And sindhis in 83..bengali hindus halaaled in 71? and how government and intelligence agencies have worked together to keep these freaking extremists alive, funded and trained in pakistan!
we can close our eyes sir but that doesn't let the problem go away.

Nope...
Pakistani are NOT terrorsits. You wont find any supporters of Terrorists on this forum. If you do , then by all means call a spade a spade. There is nothing to relish.
We do find that most Indians are extremist NATIONALISTS, even to the point of supporting genocide. And most of them, regardless of whether they admit it or not, expose a strong bias against Muslims.

Another key difference here is that while you Indians OPENLY support the crimes of your armed forces and those that you yourselves elect into power, we Pakistanis have never and will never support any form of human rights violations commited by those in power in Pak.
Another words, while we Pakistanis have the decensy to condemn human rights violations comiited by our country, you Indians not only support and encourage it, you actively partake in it... Eg The gujrat riots etc etc.

And by pointing to crimes commited by those in power in Pak, you can by no means absolve yourself of the guilt off mass genocide commited by those very powers that you Indians voted into office.
The average Hindu nationalist, which pretty much describes most Indians, is guilty of allowing such attrocities and trying to cover it up with lies.

Since the topic of this thread is mass graves found in indian occupied kashmir lets stick with it and do not talk about things that have nothing to do with the topic of this thread. It only shows you are running away from finding the truth.

I fail to understand your logic what your failed attempts to deny the massacre committed by indian soldiers. I fail to understand how stubborn you are whilst Indian government is not denying that there are mass graves of innocent kashmiris in Indian occupied Kashmir.

But you are willing to live a life full of lies but whatever suits you or helps you sleep well my blessing you have.

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l am also interested in ligic...not of their own kind....

  1. who funds these so-called human avtivists???

  2. who allowed these human activists to move arround freely and make movies in sensitive areas in kashmir.....at this gupshup columns i often get information that kashmir is in tight control of indian army ......and an over all repression is continuing.....so which report is more authentic...

an ngo can move arround freely in sensitive areas or kashmir is under athoritative control of army???

in advance i can say that i do not expect any sound reply from them....

ha... wow guess u assume a lot... shows y u post a lot of ignorant, incoherent and unsubstantiated replies here...

first off... call me an indian nationalist or maybe a christian nationalist.. ha.. whatever...

from ur save the islam comment are u assuming that islam and terrorism go hand in hand or are synonymous...??? guess ur more of a closet taliban... i was talking about terrorists... they could be pakistanis, non-pakistanis, mulsims or non-muslims... whatever their profile.. terrorists should be treated in their own ways...

now regarding pakistan... it was handed to u in a plate... and was not something which u fought for decades or so.... and finally what happened it was not even successful... as half the mulsims of the subcontinent were left in india itself... so no more countries on the basis of religion... any one interested take a flight... oh yeah... by the way i guess bangladesh is still with pakistan right??? yeah maybe they were not muslims.... same goes with balochistan... and maybe other regions.. .

and for the last sentence i guess ur more of a pervert... ha no surprise... u might be still believing in what these terrorists also believe... 62 cats... with no holes maybe...

Would it be true that most terrorists are pakistanis then?

I don't think you'd find many people supporting gujrat rioters either..point me to some if you find..it wasn't unfortunate for the killings that happened..the killings was the result...extremists will always do what happened for those few days... for me it was unfortunate because the system was paralyzed and government did not crush the hindu extremists when riots started..not much difference for me between those rioters and extremists pakistan supports..

"Another words, while we Pakistanis have the decensy to condemn human rights violations comiited by our country, you Indians not only support and encourage it, you actively partake in it... Eg The gujrat riots etc etc."

Really??? i work with someone in here in california who thinks baitullah mehsood was a freedom fighter, bin laden has a just cause and spreading word of religion is the only solution to this bigoted world full of infidels..No points guessing his nationality!! I come across so many who cook theories when your fellow countrymen die in hands of terrorists..look for instance how your countrymen accept the terrorist of 26/11..some like Mr. Nappy asking someone to cook theories because he is a pakistani! your above quote is a UTTER LIE..

This bias against muslims is pakistan's baby..it wasn't there earlier and it is still less that what muslims have for non-muslims...If you don't believe me, ask indian muslims..they will ask you to wipe your own dirty **** before picking it on indians..that's one reason why you'd see more successful indian muslims than other countries..that's one reason why pakistanis are usually so jealous..

As for the bias, In islamic republic of pakistan if you are a hindu(or christian or sikh)..you could never dream of becoming president, or prime minister or any major post in government..why is that? because religion is heavy in mind of pakistanis more than nationalism, economic cause or progress..60+ years of independence look what you have in pakistan..is that what your founding fathers dreamt of? India has its problems and it is fighting..it has hope and you'd see it in your lifetime what it can achieve..as for pakistan you know what's in store.

Would it be true that most terrorists are pakistanis then?

I don't think you'd find many people supporting gujrat rioters either..point me to some if you find..it wasn't unfortunate for the killings that happened..the killings was the result...extremists will always do what happened for those few days... for me it was unfortunate because the system was paralyzed and government did not crush the hindu extremists when riots started..not much difference for me between those rioters and extremists pakistan supports..

"Another words, while we Pakistanis have the decensy to condemn human rights violations comiited by our country, you Indians not only support and encourage it, you actively partake in it... Eg The gujrat riots etc etc."

Really??? i work with someone in here in california who thinks baitullah mehsood was a freedom fighter, bin laden has a just cause and spreading word of religion is the only solution to this bigoted world full of infidels..No points guessing his nationality!! I come across so many who cook theories when your fellow countrymen die in hands of terrorists..look for instance how your countrymen accept the terrorist of 26/11..some like Mr. Nappy asking someone to cook theories because he is a pakistani! your above quote is a UTTER LIE..

This bias against muslims is pakistan's baby..it wasn't there earlier and it is still less than what muslims have for non-muslims...If you don't believe me, ask indian muslims..they will tell you to wipe your own dirt before picking it on indians..that's one reason why you'd see more successful indian muslims than other countries..that's one reason why pakistanis are usually so jealous of indian nationalism...

As for the bias, In islamic republic of pakistan if you are a hindu(or christian or sikh)..you could never dream of becoming president, or prime minister or any major post in government..why is that? because religion is heavy in mind of pakistanis more than nationalism, economic cause or progress..60+ years of independence look what you have in pakistan..is that what your founding fathers dreamt of? India has its problems and it is fighting..it has hope and you'd see it in your lifetime what it can achieve..as for pakistan you know what's in store.

you need more blessings than I do :-)...it's not proved who's graves these are and until it is proved you can only jump to conclusions..you jump to sweeping conclusions to prove something you already have in your mind as truth..i hope you were able to sleep these few holidays..belated Merry Christmas and good wishes for New year to you :P

Well i often wonder why u became member of this forum.
Is it only to talk negative against Pakistan and Muslims?
I do not really see you participatig in other threads and you seem not to be interested in doing anything else but going against Pakistan and Muslims.
Is that your only aim and thats the only reason why you joined gs forum?

I mean was just going through your posts and i see that you are obsessed with Pakistan, Muslims and Kashmir in a very very very negative way. And you try to portray all of them in a very bad manner.

What is your agenda mr. :)?

What was your previous nickname on gs forum this cant be first time you joined gs forum.

Actually it is the other way round...All the topics concern kashmir and
pakistan that's why I comment on that..look it up in threads I participated
in the thread on iran currency..in no negative way..you are obsessed with
bashing india and hindus...don't cry baby please argue your point...

can we please come back on topic then..in a positive way please sir?

oh you participated in iran thread how cute is that
and 99,9 % of your posts are against and ONLY against Pakistan and Islam jaanu.

Kashmir has nothing to do with India or Indians. Why are you getting involved?