Duhhhh of course it refers to the 80’s and 90’s USA created a monster that they cannot control now hehehe gosh is that too hard to understand yaar.
U can hightlight whatever you want but i wish you did hightlight the “trugth” not just Pakistan.
And i am hightlighting something else that you are not looking at and totally ignoring it.
last but not least yes i believe THAT. 
Saudi Arabia began financing global Islamism in the early 70's, before the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Saudi Arabia also gave more money to the jihadis in Afghanistan than the US. Who was following who? Saudi Arabia was near the USSR, it was ideologically opposed to the USSR. Why the assumption that Muslim countries are too dumb to have thoughts of their own? The Saudis are very sophisticated and have extended their influence throughout the Sunni Muslim world, Western Europe, and even in the US.
What madrassas did the West finance? Did they send imams and textbooks which taught that you go to heaven for "jihad"? Did they create the theological framework? Did they create the ideological framework in the 1920's with Mawdudi and and al-Banna? Where did Mawdudi draw his inspiration and ideology (of global jihad extending shariah to all countries) from? America? This is an internal virus threatening to infect the rest of the world. The tendency to blame everything on outsiders is holding the entire Muslim world down.
Let's postulate for a moment the myth that the West is why Muslims from Pakistan believe that you go to heaven for killing people, What does the West have to do with Islamists in the Philippines, China, Thailand, Indonesia, India, Kashmir, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Bosnia, Nigeria, Algeria, Somalia and so on?
As Seymour Hersh reported in January 2002, at the height of the war in Afghanistan, hundreds of Taliban fighters “accidentally” ended up on U.S. organized special safety corridor airlifts right before the fall of Kunduz.
The Taliban itself was a creation of the CIA having been set up and bankrolled by the U.S. in tandem with Pakistan’s ISI.
“In the 1980s, the CIA provided some $5 billion in military aid for Islamic fundamentalist rebels fighting the Soviet occupation in Afghanistan, but scaled down operations after Moscow pulled out in 1989. However, Selig Harrison of the DC-based Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars recently told a conference in London that the CIA created the Taliban “monster” by providing some $3 billion for the ultra-fundamentalist militia in their 1994-6 drive to power,” reported the Times of India.
ohhhhhhhhh look at that there IS wow
thank you sooo much!!
Everyone knows the US and Saudi Arabia heavily supported fundamentalists in Afghanistan in the 80's. And? How many suicide bombings were there in Afghanistan then? Did anyone blow up bazaars or hospitals?
When jihadists "justify" killing what do they cite? They cite Koranic verses and hadith as well as the examples of the Islamic/Arab empire's imperialism and the Ottoman empire. This has nothing to do with the US. This is an intra-Islamic debate. If you listen to some Muslims you would think terrorism come out of the blue after the 80's. Was it the US which divided the world between Dar-al-Islam ("House of Peace") and Dar-al-Harb ("House of War"--all "kafir" lands which had to be fought until they eventually fell under shariah)? That happened 1,000+ years ago. There is dispute after these designations today--there was none when the Arab and Turkish armies were marching triumphantly from battle after battle, nation after nation--but again that is an internal dispute. The jihadists believe the "House of War" extends to all "kafir" lands and they believe any land without shariah is "kafir", hence the extension jihadism to Muslim countries.
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The Taliban itself was a creation of the CIA having been set up and bankrolled by the U.S. in tandem with Pakistan’s ISI.
“In the 1980s, the CIA provided some $5 billion in military aid for Islamic fundamentalist rebels fighting the Soviet occupation in Afghanistan, but scaled down operations after Moscow pulled out in 1989. However, Selig Harrison of the DC-based Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars recently told a conference in London that the CIA created the Taliban “monster” by providing some $3 billion for the ultra-fundamentalist militia in their 1994-6 drive to power,” reported the Times of India.
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This has already been debunked. Harrison never said that.
Re: Indian embassy bombed; Pakistani involvement hints Afghanistan
Are u repeating yourself again? lolz
its getting boring you know
come up with something new please mr. Reason i have heard that zillion times and
does not keep me awake reading time after time the same story you post here.
So please come up with something new!!!
Well bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki
The bombs killed as many as 140,000 people in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki.
how many death people? can you count mr. Reason?
War in vietnam and war in iraq how many dead people Reason can you count?
War in Afghanistan and 100 wars sponsored by the USA ...how many dead bodies mr. Reason?
and now first you count all those dead bodies please and then count the dead bodies bc of so called Islamists. I am waiting your reply ;).
Typical: dodge the disturbing roots of jihadism. A "man" walked into a bazaar today and killed 50+ people and wounded 100+. Why? What caused him to do it? He believed he would go to heaven for doing this. Why? Who taught him this? What is it based on (an ideology which quotes Koran and hadith. Why don't Muslims refute their "justifications" instead of blaming "kafirs" for everything)?
The sad thing is like most Germans prior to Hitler's ascension to power few Muslims know what Islamism and its military offshoot jihadism are. You did not even know what "Islamism" is until I mentioned it a few days ago.
Typical: dodge the disturbing roots of jihadism. A "man" walked into a bazaar today and killed 50+ people and wounded 100+. Why? What caused him to do it? He believed he would go to heaven for doing this. Why? Who taught him this? What is it based on?
The sad thing is like most Germans prior to Hitler's ascension to power few Muslims know what Islamism and its military offshoot jihadism are. You did not even know what "Islamism" is until I mentioned it a few days ago.
i guess that says it all
u cannot count mate
but i ask you again
you love to make comparison right?
well do the counting for me please will you ??
How many did Islamist kill and how many did the USA (i am not even talking about the WEST gosh....that will add up alot)
Well bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki
The bombs killed as many as 140,000 people in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki.
how many death people? can you count mr. Reason?
War in vietnam and war in iraq how many dead people Reason can you count?
War in Afghanistan and 100 wars sponsored by the USA ...how many dead bodies mr. Reason?
and now first you count all those dead bodies please and then count the dead bodies bc of so called Islamists. I am waiting your reply
Re: Indian embassy bombed; Pakistani involvement hints Afghanistan
If you want to discuss US history I would be glad to do so in another thread.
You can beat around the bush as much as you can but fact remains the same people who are responsible of this suicide bombing and killing of innocents (aka Talibans and Alqaeeda) did not exist before the USSR war when USA decided to create the monsters and them dump it!
Re: Indian embassy bombed; Pakistani involvement hints Afghanistan
They were created in the 1920's and engaged in violence decades before 1979 (i.e. the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, in Syria).
They were created in the 1920's and engaged in violence decades before 1979 (i.e. the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, in Syria).
oh really? thats a news for me that Taliban and Alqeeda was created in 1920 and they were doing sucide blasts, killings all over bali, france, india, pakistan, afghanistan, usa, uk right? ...thanks for the news.
They were created in the 1920's and engaged in violence decades before 1979 (i.e. the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, in Syria).
hey its not fair
:(
u r not anwsering my question mr. Reason
why not?
Re: Indian embassy bombed; Pakistani involvement hints Afghanistan
Thank God who invented "copy and past" Phewwwwwww!!!!!
but i ask you again
you love to make comparison right?
well do the counting for me please will you ??
How many did Islamist kill and how many did the USA (i am not even talking about the WEST gosh....that will add up alot)
Well bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki
The bombs killed as many as 140,000 people in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki.
how many death people? can you count mr. Reason?
War in vietnam and war in iraq how many dead people Reason can you count?
War in Afghanistan and 100 wars sponsored by the USA ...how many dead bodies mr. Reason?
and now first you count all those dead bodies please and then count the dead bodies bc of so called Islamists. I am waiting your reply!!
Please free up your mind.
Looks like you have been living under influence of bajarang-dal or shiv sehna who are no less evil than Taliban. Both have same agenda, its just that Taliban got more resources and courage to execute their plans.
BD or SS have not killed people the way Taliban did and does. What is it going to take for you to acknowledge that Taliban is a cancer to Pakistan? A direct attack on your muhalla?
They were created in the 1920's and engaged in violence decades before 1979 (i.e. the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, in Syria).
oh yes.... dont you see your own country's voilance over humankind?? whose 3rd class citizen you are... indian
BD or SS have not killed people the way Taliban did and does. What is it going to take for you to acknowledge that Taliban is a cancer to Pakistan? A direct attack on your muhalla?
Oh yes mr bhindian.. It was ISI agents who went and did the genoside of muslims in indian gujrat in 2002?? hai na?? Dont you feel any shame when you try to put a lovely cover over your dirty and stinky country?? But garbage remains a garbage even if you cover it will fragrant rose petal.. doesnt it??
oh really? thats a news for me that Taliban and Alqeeda was created in 1920 and they were doing sucide blasts, killings all over bali, france, india, pakistan, afghanistan, usa, uk right? ...thanks for the news.
Of course it is news to you. Few Muslims know what Islamism is, what they believe, what their goals and means are, etc. This is why so many Muslims blindly support those who seek to destroy or persecute them. There are even women who support the Taliban!
Al-Qaeda and the Taliban are branches of Islamism, just as the Khmer Rouge were a branch of Communism. Let me guess: you think the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia or the current North Korean government had/has nothing to do with Lenin and Mao?