Indian Elections 2004 / Why the BJP lost? (MERGED)

Faisal, results come out on thursday i think. If Cong form a govt then Sonia will become

Mursalin - If the NDA fails to get 250 seats i suppose vajpayee will take the blame and resign. unless they want to forge alliances, get an extra 10 seats and form a shaky coalition govt. much better to sit in the oppositon and heckle the congress, wait for it to screw up and then get re-elected. it's like recycling.

if bjp loses it will have to face certain cold facts. no more mandir-masjid politicking and poor have to get some returns like the middle class.

I dont think if Congress gets a majority, they would project Sonia as the PM because of her Italian origins. SHe may be the leader of Congress Party, but there are rumors that Manmohan Singh may be placed as PM candidate.

Election counting starts tomorrow and results should be out tomorrow because of E-voting

Man, that sucks. But ok…I could live with MM singh as PM. He is one of my heroes. :k:

So, I take it that its still not clear. Something should be in by tomorrow morning?

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Yup tomorrow evening one would know which party gets a majority at the Centre (New Delhi).

There has been State elections too in states like Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Sikkim. Congress won in AP other results are not yet out.

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YES..by tomorow we would know that which party got how many seats. But we may not still know who is gonna be PM unless BJP and its allies(NDA) gets around 250. 272 is magic number. If bjp gets above 250,Vajpayee will be PM. But if they are shot of 250 ,which is most likely now, then the person who has his stars in better shape can be PM.
Main contender being Sonia ,Manmohan Singh,Jyoti Basu,Mulayam SIngh etc.Though my personel opinion is that people will have consensous on Manmohan singh,

Every democracy is a working democracy. Unlike theocracies, democracies change with the times...new governance procedures and laws are passed to fit the times as others are repealed. for example...a democracy in 700 ad in arabia could have a law saying "interest is illegal"...but in 2002 such a law is simply put idiotic so people decide to change the law. I hope that clears up the confusion for you.

Frankly speaking, I am/was kinda hoping Atal remains. He is now a known entity. Any new guy comes in, we (i.e. Pakistanis) don't know how he will turn out to be vis-a-vis relations with Pakistan.

^ Bingo! give the man a CEEEGAR!!!

Atal will remain, but my consolation is that if he doesn;t then MM singh is the best man for the job. Pakistan will take a back seat to further reforms in the economy. Hope the congress idiots have the balls to go through with the agenda...

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^ Bingo! give the man a CEEEGAR!!!

Atal will remain, but my consolation is that if he doesn;t then MM singh is the best man for the job. Pakistan will take a back seat to further reforms in the economy. Hope the congress idiots have the balls to go through with the agenda...
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Maty
Though I will laso like to see Manmohan SIngh as PM but problem is will he be able to manage a coalition. I somehow feel uncomfortable with the Idea of PM in a democracy who doesnt have mass support.Guy cannot even win his MP seat .He will be taken for a ride by those seasoned politicians.Remember I K Gujral.

:)

It's just gone past 8.00am local time in India, and the counting of the votes is now underway. Due to the new impressive e-voting system that was used, we should know the overall results in just a few hours and early trends in an hour or so.

Wow results are shocking.

BJP is leading Congress in Karnataka (the next IT state).

Congress is leading all over India. Looks like days of BJP are numbered. BJP is fighting for survival.

Congress, NDA share early spoils

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/?

• Vajpayee(BJP) leads from Lucknow
• Sonia Gandhi(Cong)leads from Rae Bareli
• Rahul Gandhi leads from Amethi
• George Fernandes leads from Muzaffarpur
• Jyotiraditya Scindia(Cong) leads from Guna
• Dharmendra (BJP) leads from Bikaner
• Mulayam Singh leads from Mainpuri
• Smriti Irani(BJP) trails from Chandni Chowk
• Jagmohan(BJP) leads from New Delhi
• Jagdish Tytler(Cong) leading from Sadar
• Sandeep Dixit(Cong)leads from East Delhi
• Former PM Chandrashekhar leads from Balia
07:52 am Thu, May 13, 2004, TIMESOFINDIA.COM ]
Congress sweeps Haryana

BJP’s decision to snap ties with Chautala is costing it dear. Congress is leading all the seats in the state.
08:51 am Thu, May 13, 2004, TIMESOFINDIA.COM ]
BJP sweeps Assam

well gandhi family and chamchas will always pull strings from behind.

but if mm singh becomes PM and chidambaram finance minister we’re in for a great economic ride!:k:

jayalalitha out!:k:
Modi out!:k:
Omar Abdullah in!:k:

what will it take to kick that rat bag laloo out??

Leads: NDA 191 | Cong+ 210 | Oth 108

:nuch: :bhangra:

Gujarat leads: Congress 13, BJP 12

People of Gujrat correcting the mistake.

The final predictions by Star News seem to be as follows:-

Congress/allies - 210 seats
BJP/NDA - 197 seats
Others - 132 seats

Is this the effective end of Vajpayee as Prime Minister of India?

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The final predictions by Star News seem to be as follows:-

Is this the effective end of Vajpayee as Prime Minister of India?
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YEP..and his political career too.he is too old to come back

I wish Congress had got clear majority. I dont like coalition governments that results based on horse trading and carrot dangling (in the form of ministerial berths for on-the-fence candidates). This allows even small time regional leaders like Laloo and Surjeet to play king-makers. Also, it is usual in these situations that an innocuous (rather than charismatic) leader like Manmohan Singh would be the consensus choice for PM.

While I am delighted to see Vajpayee go ( the man can't walk or talk), I am not too happy with the results. Whichever combination forms the government, I dont see the Prime Minister taking tough decision esp. with respect to the economy and the Govt lasting for too long.

So the bottom line is this result is not good for India, not good for India-Pak long-term CBMs, not good for potential foreign investors and very bad news for the Indian stock market.

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Seems to be.

Congress Party is saying Sonia Ghandi will be PM

The opposition Congress party and its allies claimed victory and declared that party leader Sonia Gandhi would be the next prime minister.


First European to lead a nation on the subcontinent since 1947… how good is her hindi?

Not very good, but atleast we’ll be spared the poetry. :smiley:

And I hope she announces subsidies for pizza and pasta … :yummy: