Ayub’ son has made a sensational news item, can be a marketing trick or …….
Pak bombshell: Indian brigadier sold us 1965 war plan for Rs 20,000
PAK He needed money to keep wife happy, rose to top position and is still alive, says Ayub Khan’s son Gohar; ‘You will know his name in my book soon’
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If it's true..Gohar Ayub would be an idiot to give the mans name..
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Fantasy from a nobody who wants to sell his book.
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I would say Ayub would have been a bigger idiot if he had told his son about it.
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I was thinking of posting a thread to discuss this.
Apparently this is whats been happening;
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/may2005-daily/27-05-2005/main/main4.htm
*** Diaries of a field marshal***
By Rauf Klasra
ISLAMABAD: After five decades, dozens of Field Marshal Ayub Khan’s secret personal diaries are being unveiled by his son Gohar Ayub Khan.
These explosive diaries, which have the potential of stirring heated debates in the military, political and social circles, are written in Ayub’s own hand.
Ayub imposed the first martial law in Pakistan in 1958 after then-president Sikandar Mirza ordered his arrest along with other generals. Unveiling the secrets of these notes might provide an insight into the most volatile days of the country’s history leading to the dismemberment of its eastern wing in 1971.
Ayub started recording his daily routine and important events in his personal diaries from August 1966 and this extraordinary exercise continued till November 1972, shortly before his death.
A young lieutenant, Gohar Ayub Khan, promoted as temporary captain, served as Aide de Camp (ADC) to his father after he assumed power in 1958. Gohar is also witness to many important political events of the country’s history as ADC to his father. The former speaker National Assembly and ex-foreign minister has tirelessly collected dozens of personal diaries of his father lying safely in the cupboards of the family house; read each and every word written by Ayub for at least six years following his death.
The extraordinary book is expected to hit the market in the near future and might stir new political debates in Pakistan as a lot of new information has been retrieved out of it.
Ayub took up this Herculean task with a view to enabling the people to have a glimpse into his father’s personal, political and social life when he was calling the shots in Pakistan.
Talking to The News, Gohar shared many important aspects of his father’s life particularly the days when Ayub started writing his personal notes while lot of changes were taking place around. Gohar said first he sent these diaries to a publisher to retrieve important material from the entire personalised stuff of a former president. But the publisher expressed his inability to read the handwriting of the general. Subsequently, Gohar took the task of reading the entire material from these diaries.
Gohar also knows the details of many important political events as well as top notch political and military personalities whose very mention is made in the personal notes. The book in its final stages of publication by a prominent publisher has been named as “Diaries of Field Martial” and would have all details of the period from 1966 to 1972.
The 1966-1972 period was significant in that absolute power was gradually slipping from the hands of the once mighty Ayub. The most trusted minister of his cabinet, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, whom Ayub was grooming to replace him at one stage, was bent upon rebellion after signing a peace agreement with India in Tashkent. The diaries also include many important international events.
After talking to Gohar, it transpired that in these crucial years, Ayub made one of the most important appointments in the military by elevating his other trusted soldier General Yahya to replace Gen Musa. But the “trusted soldier” assumed power after forcing Ayub to resign following falling health in the late 1960s.
The same years saw the decline of Ayub and dramatic rise of Yahya followed by the start of a strong agitation by opposition parties led by the fiery Bhutto, who actually weakened Ayub and strengthened the hands of Yahya to replace Ayub at one stage.
When Ayub was writing his personal diaries, massive unrest had already started in East Pakistan and Yahya had decided to use military force to subdue the defiant Bengalis.
To the utter disappointment of Ayub in the last days of his power, a cruel history was repeating itself … Ayub was being sent messages from the top military brass led by Yahya not only to resign but also leave Pakistan as he (Ayub) did the same with General Sikandar Mirza in 1958.
Mirza, who was otherwise a personal friend of Ayub, was forced by the military generals of Ayub like Gen Burki, Gen Sheikh and Gen Hameed to resign and settle down in London following the imposition of martial law.
How Ayub resigned and watched from the sidelines his own hand picked military general (Yahya) and politician (Bhutto) assuming an entirely a different role than what he as president and field martial had envisaged for them in the mid-60s would make for interesting reading.
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and;
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/may2005-daily/30-05-2005/main/main9.htm
Rs 20,000 changed course of 1965 war: Gohar
By Rauf Klasra
ISLAMABAD: Former president Ayub Khan bought an Indian secret plan to attack Pakistan in 1965 from an Indian army brigadier for only Rs 20,000, revealed former president’s son Gohar Ayub Khan in an exclusive interview to The News.
Indian brigadier, according to Gohar, needed the money for his wife who wanted to buy equipment for fulfilling her hobby of canning fruits and vegetables.
He said Pakistani agents active in New Delhi exploited this passion of Brigadier’s wife and bought the plan.
Gohar Ayub is now 68-year old and writing his autobiography that would hit the market in December this year.
He is an eye-witness to imposition of first martial law by his father General Ayub and has been attending many important meetings during his father’s 10-year rule. He also remained as Speaker of the National Assembly and foreign minister of Pakistan.
When asked about the name of Indian army brigadier, Gohar said he would give clear indications in his book to expose identity of the Indian military officer, who is still alive.
This would be a ‘bomb shell’ for the Indian army as the same officer later served at a very top position before retiring ‘honourably’. He said he met the Indian officer in London in 1967.
Gohar said Ayub Khan was preparing the Pakistan army to fight a war with India to get Kashmir liberated. For this very purpose, he followed a long term policy, he said.
He said the first thing Ayub did was to join the Baghdad pact as it enabled Pakistan to get American military aid in the shape of ammunition, guns, tanks, submarines, fighter planes, naval ships that otherwise Pakistan could not afford at all.
The equipment given to Pakistan by the Americans was more advance in technology than that available to the Indian army, he said.
He claimed that the Pakistani army was secretly saving the ammunition to dodge the Americans who were keeping the record of military equipment being given to Pakistan.
Secondly, he said, Ayub Khan deputed his intelligent network active in New Delhi to penetrate into Indian Directorate of Military Operations to get their war plan.
Giving details of the purchase of the war plan, Gohar said a brigadier was traced who agreed to sell the war plan against payment of Rs 20,000. After initial secret negotiations, it was agreed between the Pakistani agents and the Indian army officer that payment would be made in London and he would deliver the war plan in New Delhi after getting confirmation of receipt of the money.
Gohar claimed that Pakistani military attache in London Brigadier Said Ghaus made the payment. When the GHQ in Pakistan received the secret plan of the Indian army, every body, including Ayub Khan, was surprised to know the comprehensive details mentioned in the plan. Pakistani generals even doubted its credibility by assuming that Indian officer might have planted these secrets with the collaboration of Indian high command. The plan was rechecked from other intelligence sources in New Delhi and it turned out to the actual plan.
Gohar said Ayub Khan issued instructions to his own military command that in future the Pakistan army should not keep its own plans with so much details as Indians had done so that these plans were not leaked to the enemy. Ayub Khan deployed Pakistani forces on those fronts where Indians planned to attack and also sent some forces to those areas that Indian army did not plan to attack.
According to Gohar, it was decided that reinforcement would be ensured on those fronts where Indian army was expected to launch attacks. That was why, when Indians launched attacks on Pakistan they found its forces fully prepared. The Lahore military commander, however, failed to implement the plan as he moved his forces late to the much disappointment and annoyance of the top military brass, Gohar said.
He said initially, the Pakistan army defended its positions when Indians launched attacks. After stabilising those fronts, the Pakistan army launched its attack at Chamb Jorian that was left unguarded by Indians as indicated in their secret war plan. No Indian soldier was found to defend the border and the Pakistan army started its advance secretly.
Gohar said the Pakistani forces were supposed to cross River Bias bridge to besiege the Indian army in east Punjab and other three division forces that had no idea that the Pakistan army was advancing. When Pakistani forces launched the attack, the Indian fighter jets monitored their movements. Pakistani strike force had been hiding in that area since January 1965, without being noticed by the Indian army.
A panicked Indian army chief, General Chaudhry, in a meeting told his high command that India should withdraw its forces from Bias as the Pakistan army was advancing from this side and might slaughter his soldiers. However, bad luck struck the Pakistani troops when they were crossing the Bias bridge as one of their tank hit the bank of the bridge that collapsed and blocked the advance into Indian areas.
According to Gohar, this development put Ayub Khan and other military commanders in a fix as every body was solely depending on this attack but all of a sudden the operation had come to a halt. Major General Sher Bahadur was sent from GHQ, Rawalpindi, by a helicopter to ensure the immediate repair of the bridge. But the bridge could not be repaired even in three days and it enabled Indians to breach their canals to flood the entire area to stop the Pakistan army advance.
Gohar said Pakistan lost one of the biggest chances of conquering Indian territories because of a small fault of a tank driver and it greatly disappointed Ayub Khan as despite the availability of the secret plan of Indian aggression, Pakistan failed to utilise its advantages in the war. But, he said, payment of Rs 20,000 at least enabled Pakistani forces to defend the massive Indian attack.
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Exactly! it’d be a shame, even more so since he himself has been a soldier and would know spies are a norm. He’d make a fool out of everyone.
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most stupid thing in his claim is that india wanted to attack pakistan and pakistan defended them self for 20000.
other thing i felt that at dinner ayub khan used to discuss days happnings with his family.
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I do not make any claim, but I think that nothing will happen and his autobiography book will be a flop.
This one statement is enough to identify the Brigadier…I can say that the Ayub 'son is playing a foolish game in a foolish hope to make money.
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I have one question. Will Gohar Ayub make the original diaries public before publishing the book, so that public can verify the claims he will make in his diaries?
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I am sure some of Paki generals also sold some secrets as well as their behinds for some ruppess.
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Its all crystal clear now, makes total sense to me... But if this is what Ayub wrote in his Diary, then shouldnt this give the Indians atleast a reason to be suspicous?
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How many Indian officers were in London in 1967 and had a wife who can keen on canning? This guy, if he exists, will be under arrest by now.
[quote=“Haris Zuberi”]
. Ayub Khan deployed Pakistani forces on those fronts where Indians planned to attack and also sent some forces to those areas that Indian army did not plan to attack.
According to Gohar, it was decided that reinforcement would be ensured on those fronts where Indian army was expected to launch attacks. That was why, when Indians launched attacks on Pakistan they found its forces fully prepared.
[QUOTE]
Pakistan’s forces were unprepared for war all along the front , not just at Lahore. Only in Kashmir was the army on a military footing, due to the heavy skirmishing thre in late summer 1965.
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AJ: I doubt that...Ayub Khans sons were a key factor in his downfall...again as far as the report of Intell bought from an Indian officer ..whether it's true or false is another issue but either way it'll directly effect a whole load of senior officers now as Indian spooks start questioning all sorts of people ...that to be frank is quite a cruel act by Gohar Ayub
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No one Brigadier could have access to "master plans." IA's plans were and still are based at the Corps level and only the COAS, DGMO and GoC of the Corps have access to each Corps role. A Brigadier may have at most known what his component Corps may be doing.
There is no evidence that PA knew IA will attack in the Lahore-Sialkot axis.
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naah…they usually go for dollars.
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True! Indian army is already investigating it and it has stirred a totally unwanted procedure with diggings of old graves going on at both sides. Gohar Ayub has definitely acted extremely foolish. pathetic really to see someone even after having enough exposure making a pathetic fool out of every soldier and spy in the world. not just cruel, but a retarded act…
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More update by the Jang reporter ***Rauf Klasra ***
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/may2005-daily/31-05-2005/metro/i16.htm
** War plan sale bigger scam than Tehelka: Indian media
*** Rauf Klasra
*ISLAMABAAD: Indian mediamen are terming the stunning disclosure of Gohar Ayub Khan that an Indian military Brigadier sold secret war plan of 1965 to Pakistan for Rs20,000 to pay for his wife’s hobbies as a bigger scam than the one exposed by Tehlka.com in 2001 in which Indian officers were shown taking bribes for an arms deal.
Indian newspapers including The Hindustan Times have however, labeled Gohar Ayub Khan who was the foreign minister when Pakistan went nuclear in May 28, 1998 and a major supporter of nuclear blasts, as a “hawk who was opposed to normalisation between Pakistan and India”.
The startling revelations by Gohar Ayub, son of Field Marshal Ayub Khan, hit the headlines of all the major newspapers of India on their web additions after they lifted it from The News, Monday. Indian journalists based in Islamabad are predicting that it would become a big scam once the print editions of morning newspapers hit the markets early today.
The leading news agency of India – Press Trust of India (PTI) – lifted the scam from The News, keeping the importance of the story and interests of the readers back home.
Two major Indian newspapers with wide circulation – Hindustan Times and The Hindu – have used the story as a major headline on their web additions the same day it was published in The News.
Special correspondent of The Hindu in Islamabad, B Muralidhar Reddy told The News that he, too, had sent the same story to his newspaper in New Delhi keeping its importance in view.
He said the stunning disclosure would become a big scam in India today morning when a common Indian reader and opposition leaders in the parliament would read it.
The Hindu correspondent, Reddy did not mince words, saying that Gohar Ayub’s disclosure was a much bigger scam than the one exposed by Tehelka.com whose team of reporters had made a video film of military officers taking bribe in an arms deal that almost shook entire India.
Muralidhar Reddy said the revelation made by quite a responsible politician like Gohar Ayub would be taken seriously in New Delhi as Gohar was not only the son of the field marshal who fought war with India but remained foreign minister of Pakistan and speaker National Assembly.
He said it would not be difficult for the Indian authorities to trace the Brigadier, who was still living after retiring from a top military position.
However, he said the first reaction of the Indian government would be to “hush up” the entire issue but definitely it would get serious attention in the concerned circles as such breaking news could not go unnoticed. He said the Indian politicians and media would definitely pursue this story in the days to come and it might become a major issue in India, keeping its sensitivity in view.
The Hindu correspondent in Pakistan said a full-fledged probe would be ordered to determine the facts.
The web addition of Hindustan Times has used the story as second lead with the headline “Indian Brigadier sold secrets of 1965 war to Pakistan”.
The newspaper has also used the words “dictator” for Ayub Khan and Gohar Ayub as “dictator’s son” in the middle of the story to help their Indian readers identify the man whose revelations might ensue another heated debate in the political and military circles of New Delhi in the days to come when the autobiography of Gohar Ayub hits the market in a few months time.
Gohar has given full identity of the Indian brigadier, who sold the secrets to Pakistan. This is not for the first time the Indian Army has been rocked by such reports of scams as in the past many such reports involving Indian officers taking bribes surfaced.
It is, however, for the first time that an allegation involving a top Indian military officer selling war secrets to an enemy country has come to surface much to the embarrassment of the Indian Army.
The Hindustan Times sarcastically, commented that despite the availability of secret plans after paying Rs20,000, Pakistan badly failed to capitalise on the information. Ayub has been directly held responsible in the story for failing to exploit the leaked information.
Special correspondent of Press Trust of India based in Islamabad, K J Varma, told The News that although the credibility of the allegation of Gohar was yet to be established, but it might have serious repercussions in the days to come if the allegations were proved.
He said definitely, the Indian government would launch its own investigations into the stunning allegations. Varma, however, said Gohar needed to establish his claim instead of making allegations against someone.
He said the Indians should take it seriously and use this opportunity to determine how the secret plan was sold if one takes the claim seriously.
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Yes exactly!
btw guys, i do hope when you quote me above you know the words are the writer’s and not mine…
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and the Indian Army has begun the hunt…
from Jang again;
http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/may2005-daily/31-05-2005/main/update.shtml#26
*** Army launches probe into Gohar Ayub’s claims ***
(Updated at 2345 PST)
NEW DELHI: The Army today launched “internal inquiry” into the claims of former Pakistan dictator Ayub Khan’s son Gohar Ayub that an Indian Brigadier had sold 1965 war plans to Pakistan for Rs 20,000.
Though senior defence officials said the claims appeared “far fetched” as Gohar Ayub is a known hawk in Pakistan, investigations were being carried on the directions of Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee to check the veracity of the claim and, if true, to identify the officer.
“It is difficult to believe that an Indian Brigadier would divulge military secrets for money,” Mukherjee told reporters in Karwar in Karnataka saying that the incident took place over 30 to 40 years ago and “We don’t know whether the Brigadier is still alive or dead.”
“The matter will be investigated”, Mukherjee said after dedicating INS Kadamba naval base to the nation.
The Army Chief Gen J J Singh chaired a high level meeting at the army headquarters here along with Director General Military Operations Lt Gen Madan Gopal and Director General Military intelligence Lt Gen Deepak Summenwar.
"If the allegations are correct, it would not take much “time to identify the officer as there were only a handful of Brigadiers at Army Headquarters during 1965”, a senior office said.
Two Brigadiers, who were Directors, Military Operations, in the 1965 war, are both dead, while Gohar Ayub claimed that the officer who had received the bribe had risen higher and was still alive.
The army is also checking officers who made trips to UK in 1967, the sources said.