Indian Bluff.

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Really where is it?

Did you expect to get copied on the proof provided ? :)

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india has now admitted they will try and 'find' proof! hahaha

Well, Why is India not sharing the evidence with Pakistan? Pakistan has banned a peaceful organization JuD(Jamaat-ud-Dawa). To me it looks like an Indian conspiracy- if you look at the dead pictures of the so-called gunmen including the surviving one, they look 100% Indian- dark skinned, not tall, thick lips and red wrist band. The reason Indian police had to shoot all gunmen because they were afraid gunmen will reveal to everyone they actually are gunmen of Baal Tackarey- Hindus or Sikhs, and not Muslims. Man Mohan Singh will have no options when the families of the gunmen will come out in open and reveal everything about themsevles.

Punjabee in USA bhaijan. China, who were asked by India to intervene, does not believe that India has yet provided the proof.

China urges India to share Mumbai evidence with Pakistan
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China urges India to share Mumbai evidence with Pakistan**

ISLAMABAD: China has assured Pakistan that it would act to defuse tension between Pakistan and India following Mumbai terror attacks. This was stated by visiting Chinese Vice Foreign Minister, He Yafei on Monday.

He Yafei held important meetings with Foreign Minister Makhdoom Shah Mehmood Qureshi, Advisor to the Prime Minister on Interior, Rehman Malik, Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCSC) General Tariq Majid.

During his meeting with Pakistani FM, Chinese Vice Foreign Minister said that his country wanted peace in the region and India and Pakistan should resolve all issues through dialogue. He Yafei urged India that it should share Mumbai attacks evidence with Pakistan.

Chinese Vice FM supported the efforts of Pakistan to normalise its relations with India in the wake of Mumbai terror attacks. Both leaders also exchanged views on matters of bilateral interest and agreed to further enhance bilateral ties in different fields.

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^ The proof has been provided to countries whose citizens were killed in the attacks - US, UK, Israel.

The US and Britain have provided Pakistan evidence of the involvement of elements within the country in the Mumbai terror attacks but western diplomats believe Islamabad has "not done enough" in terms of acting on the intelligence.

I don't know if you know this: You are quoting things from a month ago. The article that mentions china is a few days old.

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^ I know that, and what amazes me is that Pakistan is still stuck on that same old "where is the evidence" when evidence was provided a month ago i.e. right after the Mumbai attacks.

May be India has shared with it US and UK (and not Pakistan) hoping that US/UK will pressurize Pakistan but buddy, that backfired as US pressurized India not to even go for "surgical strikes".

Shortest and Easiest way would have been to allow access to Ajaml for Pakistani diplomats and share it with India but naaaayyy ... India did not even shared it with Interpol

^ The problem with that is that as soon as the evidence is provided to Pak, it gets destroyed :wink:

No wonder the Indian government went through US/UK rather than providing it directly to Pak. Atleast, its been proven to those two countries (and the rest of the western world through them) that this attack had its roots in Pakistan.

India never intended to conduct any surgical strikes. That was just war hysteria by the media. When we can use the US to carry out our objectives, why should we get our hands dirty ??

The problem is that India has no proof to link Pakistan to this. And it shot it self in the foot by blaming Pakistan prematurely. Now its trying to find evidence to link Pak to this but in the end it will be local indian groups that carried out this attack.

Punjabi USA bhaijan. If that is the case, then are you saying that Pranab Mukherjee is lying when he says that Pakistan will be provided all the evidence after India completes the investigation?

According to Pranab Mukerjee, India has not even completed the investigation.

Mumbai attackers could be Pakistanis: Pak NSA

Durrani says Kasab could be Pakistani

Looks like the Pak embassy in Washington has already accepted the proof as authentic, as has the USA.

DAWN.COM | World | Pakistan under pressure to extradite Lakhvi

You can continue to bury your head in the sand, but that will not change the inevitable.

I dont know how you got that nugget of information. As far as I know, proof has already been provided to US & UK, and they have shared it with Pak.

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^An ghussa janey do yaar, US/UK are not putting any sanctions on Pak if thats what you were hoping for.

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India has always mentioned that it is the non-state actors who have committed this heinious crime. Putting sanctions would be counter-productive at this stage. India wanted action against some terrorist organisations. Pakistan has been forced to do so. Now the next step would be the extradition of the wanted cowards who are hiding in Pakistan. It is only a matter of time before this is also achieved.

Your own former PM has admitted that the terrorist 's village has been cordoned off. If India was blaming Pakistan prematurely why is this being done. Why is one of your lawyers claiming that Kasab was arrested in Nepal. Keeping yourself informed about the latest happening helps.

Burney asks Pak govt to clarify on Kasab’s nationality

Pakistani militant confesses to role in Mumbai attacks | csmonitor.com

A war of words continues between India and Pakistan amid new evidence that a Pakistani militant group masterminded the terrorist attacks in Mumbai (formerly Bombay) last month. And as Pakistan continues to move troops to its eastern border with India, analysts say Pakistan may be too distracted to effectively fight militants at home.
This week, The Wall Street Journal reported new evidence linking Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba to the Mumbai attacks:
At least one top leader of militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, or “Army of the Pure,” captured in a raid earlier this month in Pakistani-controlled Kashmir, has confessed the group’s involvement in the attack as India and the U.S. have alleged, according to a senior Pakistani security official…
Pakistani security officials say a top Lashkar commander, Zarar Shah, has admitted a role in the Mumbai attack during interrogation, according to the security official, who declined to be identified discussing the investigation. “He is singing,” the security official said of Mr. Shah. The admission, the official said, is backed up by U.S. intercepts of a phone call between Mr. Shah and one of the attackers at the Taj Mahal Palace & Tower, the site of a 60-hour confrontation with Indian security forces…
[The revelation will increase] pressure on Pakistan to accept that the attacks, which left 171 dead in India, originated within its borders and to prosecute or extradite the suspects. That raises difficult and potentially destabilizing issues for the country’s new civilian government, its military and the spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence – which is conducting interrogations of militants it once cultivated as partners.
Despite the revelation, “India on Wednesday said Pakistan was in ‘denial’ over the Mumbai attacks and refusing to acknowledge evidence linking the gunmen who carried out the assault with elements in Pakistan,” according to **Agence France-Presse **(AFP).
[India’s Home Minister P. Chidambaram] said the Pakistani father of the sole surviving gunman had confirmed to Pakistan television that his son was involved.
“If that is not evidence then what is?” Chidambaram said.
Amid the tension, both nations moved troops to their border, the Associated Press (AP) reports.
Pakistan claimed India had moved troops to their shared border Tuesday, days after Pakistan itself shifted soldiers to the frontier, but New Delhi insisted it had done nothing to add to tensions between the nuclear-armed countries…
Most observers say a fourth war between the countries is highly unlikely, not least because few can imagine a scenario where India would benefit from it. Any attack on Pakistan would destabilize the country’s new civilian government and strengthen its militant fringe, they say.
Last week, “Pakistani intelligence officials said the country was shifting up to 20,000 troops from the Afghan border area – where they are among more than 100,000 fighting al-Qaida and Taliban militants – to the Indian frontier. They spoke on condition of anonymity.” The AP reports.
Indian officialsdenied that their troop movements were in preparation for any sort of attack, calling them normal winter exercises, according to The News, an English-language newspaper in Pakistan.
Indian External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee denied on Tuesday mobilisation of Indian forces on Pakistan border. He was responding to [Pakistani] Foreign Minister Shah Mehmud Qureshi’s proposal to India to de-activate forward bases and re-location of army units to peacetime positions to de-escalate tension in the region.
“We have not created any tension… First there should be escalation from Indian side then the question of de-escalation will come. We have not escalated anything,” he said. Mukherjee said the Indian army has made it clear that its military movements were a “normal winter exercise” and there was no question of such mobilization.
The focus on tensions with India is distracting Pakistan from its real threat: the rise of militancy along its border with Afghanistan, The Washington Post reports.
Many Pakistanis still view India as their real enemy and are far less concerned about the spread of radical Islam in their midst, while the country’s powerful army appears to be more comfortable facing its conventional cross-border adversary to the east than waging a messy counterinsurgency campaign against fellow Muslims and Pakistanis on its own territory…
Even if the recent shift of troops away from the Afghan border and toward India proves largely a symbolic gesture, however, some analysts here say they worry a thinning of military ranks in the northwest could give Islamist forces a chance to become more entrenched in the conservative, impoverished region less than 100 miles from the capital.

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Great Article Aalasi. Its very interesting indeed. I am shocked at the recent behavior of Indian governments. Nastiest people on earth. Never turn your back on them, never befriend them, never trust them. They will poop and do anything to try to get what they want. ch ch ch.