Indian Bluff.

Now that India’s war bluff has misfired badly, what has been the real cost to India?

As the article suggests, India is not a super-power, a tag that it has sought for over a decade. It’s economy cannot stand another standoff let alone a real war. India lost $2billion and over 780 soldiers in 2002 without even a shot being fired from the Pakistan side.

A lesson that India now needs to learn, and accept, is that it needs to work with Pakistan, rather than trying to show hegemony. The tit-for-tat nuclear tests have put an end to that.

So, what’s next from India? What is left?

Indian Bluff | Asian Tribune

Indian Bluff

Will India launch punitive strike(s) against Pakistan? Highly +unlikely. India would have already struck if it had a choice. It doesn’t have a choice for two major reasons:** 1. Indians know, they can start a conflict, but where and how the war ends will not be in their control. 2. By tangling themselves in a war, they run a too realistic risk of delivering a mortal blow to their service-based economy, which may not even survive the brinksmanship Indians are engaging in. **

Arguably, Indians suffer from the ‘white man’s complex.’ Urbanite Indians love to mimic the American way of life. They imitate the ‘goras’ in ways ranging from their attire to their manner of speech. So much so, they have named Bombay film industry after an American icon, namely the Hollywood. Somewhere during the last decade or so, Indians became so engrossed with the ‘gora complex’ that they began imagining India to be an economical powerhouse and military superpower equating the Americans. Perhaps, it’s this complex which sullied the better judgment of Indian urbanites and their media in demanding punitive strikes against Pakistan.

Nevertheless, after the initial hysteria will ware down, at least some sane Indians will ask, if India could afford such an arrogant behavior? That when the reality will hit them rudely, like ton of bricks, that neither India is America nor Pakistan is Afghanistan.

Despite the ferocious appearance of the Indian military, largely on paper; the fact remains, over 80% of its obsolete hardware is a carryover from the Soviet-era. Indian handicap of obsolete hardware was highlighted during the 2002 India-Pakistan standoff. It was a humiliating experience for the Indians. Operation Parakram cost India about $2 billion in cash and 798 in human cost, and that too without a single shot fired from the Pakistani side.

It was also a disastrous Indian deployment, because even after one year of hostile posturing, they could not cross the border, fearing an all out war ending in a nuclear exchange. That is when India truly lost its supposed conventional superiority over Pakistan. The humiliating pull back effectively closed the doors on India for any future conventional war endeavors; because Pakistani nuclear arsenal was here to stay. However, during the same time Pakistanis were modernizing its arsenal through the rapid induction of modern weaponry like F-17 fighters and precision weapons like the Hatf-8 cruise missiles.

Since then, India has dabbled with nonstarters, like ‘cold start’ doctrine. The idea was to catch Pakistan off-guard by sending a comparatively smaller but highly mobile force across the border at a moment’s notice. It was a nonstarter because of Pakistani equalizer (its nukes); plus they realized they would still have to deploy a considerable amount of logistics and men at the front positions, where they would have remained juicy sitting-ducks for the preemptive PAF air strikes.
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The other reason India cannot afford a war with Pakistan is, its economy is too young and still too small to survive through a round of war. Regardless, the havoc it will run on the already distressed Pakistani economy, the war will for sure spell an end to the largely service-based economy, which depends on the foreign investments; and the foreign investments inherently depend on peace driven stability. **

**A brief look will abundantly expose the facade of the Indian economy; which will collapse at the first signs of uncertainty or instability. In 2008, its external debts increased to around $221 billion. In 2007, Indian exports stood around $145 billion, while imports were around $217 billion; a deficit of $72 billion in a single year. **

Its factory output account for 27.6% of the GDP and employs 17% of the total workforce. Rest of the workforce is largely dedicated to the agriculture sector. According to a 2008 World Bank report, 75.6% Indians live on less than $2 per day. It suffers from higher rates of malnutrition than Sub-Saharan Africa. Over 70% its population is either illiterate or educated below the primary level. Indian tourist industry is 1/6 of Las Vegas. Recently, Standard & Poor’s announced, India risk a downgrade from BBB-minus rating to the lowest investment-grade rating. Clearly, Indians are hardly in a financial shape to even contemplate on waging a war.

Indian service industry accounts for over 55% of its GDP. Bangalore is called the Silicon Valley of India. A large number of Information Technology companies are located in the city. It is the largest contributor of India’s $33 billion IT exports (2007). IT giants like Infosys and Wipro are headquartered in Bangalore. Other undertakings headquartered in Bangalore are Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), National Aerospace Laboratories (NAL) and Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) to name the few.

Bangalore is also called the world’s call-centre capital. Foreign IT giants like the IBM, Microsoft, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Apple and Cisco have also heavily invested in the city by opening call centers there. These call centers bring in major amounts of service-generated foreign revenues. Their 24/7 operations provide the customer support throughout the globe. An interruption of operations for even for a single day could mean loss of millions of dollars for the foreign investors.

As ugly as it may sound, but that’s what wars are, brutal and ugly. Imagine: far short of nuclear strike, only a couple of bombs or Shaheen-II (with an accuracy of 200m) armed with conventional warheads are dropped on the outskirts of Bangalore. Will even a single foreign company think twice before closing their operations for good? Would they stay around to see if they will get lucky during second round too?

Feel-good slogans like ‘shining India’ don’t help the arrogance clouding the good judgment war-mongering Indians. They can try to start a war on their terms, but it will definitely not end at their terms. Unless India has somehow overcome their fear of far-superior Pakistani nuclear arsenal, or they have found a way to move whole India under kilometer deep nuke-proof shelters, it will not dare to start a war.

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very interesting article.

I think the first thing Pakistan should target during any war with India is the undersea internet cables that 55% of Indian economy relies on.

all that posturing by India now looks rather silly.

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loks like the author is pakistani. No wonder he will talk crap.

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Why are we obsessing over an India-Pak war over and over again. I am unhappy with politicians on both sides for the way they have handled this situation. Both civilian govts. have a common enemy which is being spared and retarded age old ego is taking over. The situation is not good for Pakistan at all when they have moved their troops to their east which only help the Taliban. Taliban's growth is NOT GOOD for Pakistan so please stop gloating over this. I wish the Indians watch their words as well and handle the situation sensibly rather than acting like a bully.

^magicstick, Indians havent said we would go to war with Pakistan. It is the military establishment in pakistan who would like to create a war frenzy to dilute the attention of rogue elements in their own ranks.
As I have been saying all this time, Pakistan cannot sustain itself without being seen as an adversary to India.

well i hope thr shld b no war but evn if it hppns let these govts target eithr IT companies or cal centrs or camps but nt inocent civilians of eithr countries. My heart still bleeds fr laks of innocent ppl of iraq, afghanistan , palestine who simply lost their lives ......n da remaining injured ones r living lifes worst thn animals .

India has now realised it cannot deal with Pakistan in an aggressive way and now has ruled out giving any ultimatum to Pakistan, and will provide evidence to Pakistan when it has completed its investigation. This is a real climbdown, and hope it does not use the war bluff again.

What positive spin can the Indian leaders give to its people for the climbdown without a backlash and affect on its election chances?

Pranab rules out giving ultimatum to Pakistan
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Pranab rules out giving ultimatum to Pakistan**

NEW DELHI: Indian external affairs minister Pranab Mukherjee Sunday ruled out giving of any ultimatum to Pakistan following Mumbai violence, however, he reiterated India’s demand that Pakistan should take action against people whose names had been provided to it.

According to an Indian TV channel, Pranab Mukherjee said Pakistan will be provided all the evidence after India completes the investigation into Mumbai attacks.

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This is a breath through!

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Dair Aaid, Darust Aaid.

Shukar hay Aqal to aai is Makar jee ko.

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phoonk nikal gayi sari?

reminds one of the time when they had their forces amassed on our border in 2002 only to go quietly back to where they came from.

Aalsi, so how can two countries work together. Do you have any idea!

Joint (Pakistan/India) interrogation of the suspect, with Interpol as the neutral observer. Jointly follow-up on any leads regarding which Indian groups provided the 10 suspects support from within India, and support from any group outside. If solid proof of external or internal support is identified, jointly work together to verifiably eliminate the source of this support. Jointly investigate how 10 men in a dinghy were able to cross the sea penetrating Indian defences, and in the process humiliating Indian Navy which has in recent years spent hundreds of millions of dollars upgarding its naval and reconaisance capabilities.

In future, no talk of war or allegations should be made against another ountry before a joint investigation has been completed with solid proof of involvement from elements outside (or within) the countries.

Feel free to add to the list.

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They can start by providing us with proof. Not a bloody hand written letter.

'proof' and 'evidence' Indians ki cheir (an expression that irritates you) ban gai hain... ziada use na kiya karain plz ;)

What is the guarantee that Pakistan is true to its words. Past history of Pakistan and its military Junta have been always trecherous. Even if we agree to joint probe what is the guarantee that elements in Pakistan military sabottage the probe as some of them are involved in the attack.
There is no past precedents. If Pakistan is indeed wanted to build confidence on a joint probe then it has to hand over Dawood and the other named indian nationals hiding in Pakistan who have interpol red alert.

vineshvk bhaijan. You asked for a suggestion, I gave you some ideas. What suggestions do you have? Your above reply appear to be excuses for not working together, rather than suggestions?

Excuse for what Aalsi,
What does India gain by posturing against Pakistan. It will only loose valuable foreign investment. Indian democracy has evolved enough to know where to stop rhetoric and where to start action.
The tussle for power between civilian and military in pakistan is making people of Pakistan as a sacrificial pawn and killing innocent Indians across the border.
Why is Pakistan so adament not to act against terrorist. Isnt it the curse of Pakistan. It is not civil society in pakistan who wants not to fight against the terrorist, it is the elements in Pakistan military who have favors with extremist groups in Pakistan.

vineshvk bhaijan. So basically you have no suggestions or ideas of your own which you can share on the question you asked 'how can two countries work together.' *I have given you my suggestions to the question you asked, what ideas or suggestions do you have on *'*how can the two countries work together?'. *After your above reply, can you blame people for continuing to think that you have no suggestions only excuses as to why India should not work jointly with Pakistan?

A picture is worth a thousand words :slight_smile:

India has given proof of Lashkar-e-Tayyaba’s (LT) involvement in last month’s Mumbai terrorist attacks to Pakistan and Islamabad must now take action, acting Indian high commissioner Manpreet Vohra said on Monday.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008%5C12%5C23%5Cstory_23-12-2008_pg7_32

*The US and Britain have provided Pakistan evidence of the involvement of elements within the country in the Mumbai terror attacks but western diplomats believe Islamabad has “not done enough” in terms of acting on the intelligence. *

NDTV.com: Pak not doing enough: Western diplomats