Indian Air Force to lose Air superiority to Pakistan (Merged)

‘IAF may lose out to PAF’

MUMBAI: **A crisis has been brewing in the Indian Air Force **:shireen: and it’s about to blow up in the face of the government. The Indian Air Force (IAF) top brass has informed the Union Government that if corrective measures are not taken immediately, India will lose its air superiority over Pakistan. :faizy:

“Unless immediate steps are taken to arrest the reduction in Indian Air Force’s force levels, the nation will for the first time in its history, lose the conventional military edge over Pakistan.” :shireen:

This is a what the three-page letter of warning, written by Air Chief Marshall Tyagi to Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee, says.

A copy of the letter, which has raised serious concerns over the declining combat force level of the IAF, is available with CNN-IBN.

In his letter, the Air Chief Marshall writes, "Pakistan Air Force (PAF) is being beefed up with 44 F16s from America. They have a clearly defined goal of attaining parity with the IAF. With China supplying J 10 and JF 17 aircraft (fitted with Russian engines), PAF force levels of combat squadron will increase." :shireen:

“Unless steps are taken to move ahead with procurement, the IAF’s combat strength will deplete to a level, which would entirely neutralise the conventional superiority held by IAF since our Independence. PAF will have 19 to 26 squadrons by 2011-12, while the IAF could reduce to 26.5 by 2015.”

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp

So now the Hindoos are worrying about the air Superiority… :smiley:

They still think, “number” is power and neglect the “man in the machine”…

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Yeah... I heard the Indians have ahuge purchase in the pipework.. They may be recieving the new generation F16 and the new F18's. Not only that, but they may have these planes built in India itself according to the agreement.
Also, they are supposedly getting a new generation of radar aswell nfrom the American comapny Ratheon...
So Pakistan has to keep all this in mind...
Hopefully Pakistan can stay ahead of the Indians in military purchases, but it will be a tough road.

Indian Air Force to lose Air superiority to Pakistan

My My My what do we have here.

Indians are worried at the pathetic state of its Armed Forces and the flawed policy of buying weapons from so many numerous sources that maintaining such a wide variety of equipement is very expensive and mistakes are bound to happen such as the Flying Coffins and Arjun Tank Disaster.

So India is worried at Pakistan Jf-17 Fighters and F-16 from USA....

The entire Geo-political structure of South Asia could change

www.ibnlive.com/news/special-iaf-may-lose-out-to-pak/22834-3-0.html

New Delhi: A crisis has been brewing in the Indian Air Force and it's about to blow up in the face of the government. The Indian Air Force (IAF) top brass has informed the Union Government that if corrective measures are not taken immediately, India will lose its air superiority over Pakistan.

"Unless immediate steps are taken to arrest the reduction in Indian Air Force's force levels, the nation will for the first time in its history, lose the conventional military edge over Pakistan."

This is a what the three-page letter of warning, written by Air Chief Marshall Tyagi to Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee, says.

A copy of the letter, which has raised serious concerns over the declining combat force level of the IAF, is available with CNN-IBN.

In his letter, the Air Chief Marshall writes, "Pakistan Air Force (PAF) is being beefed up with 44 F16s from America. They have a clearly defined goal of attaining parity with the IAF. With China supplying J 10 and JF 17 aircraft (fitted with Russian engines), PAF force levels of combat squadron will increase."

"Unless steps are taken to move ahead with procurement, the IAF's combat strength will deplete to a level, which would entirely neutralise the conventional superiority held by IAF since our Independence. PAF will have 19 to 26 squadrons by 2011-12, while the IAF could reduce to 26.5 by 2015."

Many say the situation is very serious and demands immediate attention.

Says Additional Director, Air Power Studies, Kapil Kak, "This aircraft induction will take at least 10 years from today and in those 10 years, the MiG 21's will progress if they get wound down. Their total technical life and design life will end and we will have the Air Force combat force strength winding down, worringly fast."

The Indian Air Force has always enjoyed an edge in numbers over its adversary - the Pakistan Air Force - and thus the downward spiral has been a cause for concern for sometime.

The Standing Committee on Defence raised the same objections, but this time the concern comes from the Air Chief - whether it's the much hyped Light Combat Aircraft, or the Request for Proposals for 126 Multi Role Medium Range Combat Aircraft, several of these inductions are very delayed.

It's these very concerns that the Air Chief wants the Defence Minister to address.

In his letter, the Air Chief Marshall has also requested the RM to spearhead the following:

* Direct acquisition of 40 additional Su-30 MKIs from Russia on fast track.

* Request for Proposal for 126 Multi Role Medium Range Combat Aircraft be issued at the earliest.

* And last urge the Russian govt maintain their commitment of not permitting China to sell aircraft with Russian engines to Pakistan.

As the Air Force gets ready to celebrate its 74th anniversary, its dominace of the Subcontinent's airspace and the crucial roles its played in every Indo-Pak conflict is under threat.

It is for the Government now to make sure that IAF remains the superior air power it has always been.

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They can't stand Pakistan getting superiority in anything, can they? I mean if don't want war and not contemplating a war, these things shouldn't matter.

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PAF pilots have hostorically been of top quality, recognised internationally.

Shame, same can't be said for Army

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^I am sure if the pilots start spanking your behind you will say the same for them too.

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Be realistic. Any advantage Pakistan gets will be short term because after the latest round of acquisitions, Pakistan will be unable to afford modernisation for another 10-15 years. India will use its economic advantage to leap ahead in that time.

Particularly since the 90s, Pakistan has only ever been playing catch-up to India's military. In the arms race, India has the initiative and looks set to keep it through economic growth.

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^^

I dont believe this.. I am actually agreeing to what maddy has to say !!!

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exactly its like the dreadnought competition between Britain and imperial germany

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^^

And look where that led :eek:

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Pakistan should have a conventional edge in the Air Force atleast to India

We have a good defensive Army and a Navy which can protect our ports and keep our shipping lanes open from an Indian Blockade but our Air Force should be capable enough of mounting offensive strikes deep inside India

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^ all this is done on purpose by the indians so that they can get the public support for more defence spendings ...like the "soviet military power" pentagon journals in the 80s

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Should you be happy about this article, if yes think again.

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As you say.

Re: Indian Air Force to lose Air superiority to Pakistan (merged)

Pakistan only needs enough to defend its own borders and for small incursions into India. India is the one that has to worry about the offense. Considering the terrain, the level of perparedness of Pak forces, defense is far easier for us then offense is for India.

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We don’t look at past, we look at the future :shireen:

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No way. An offensive air force is far too expensive to form and maintain.

Improving the accuracy of conventional-tipped ballistic missiles is, in my opinion, the best way forward for offensive strikes. That, and continuing our development of cruise missiles.

Missile strikes are faster than aerial strikes, don’t put a highly-trained aircrew at risk of being shot down deep inside enemy territory, and are difficult to intercept.

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When u will learn to spell indian.we dont have hindoo airforce we have indian airforce which includes muslims also and they are in good quantity to kick ur a***.:smiley:

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At least, you acknowledged the past and the present. We’ll worry about the future later.

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That’s like saying Israel’s army isn’t Jewish because they have some Druze and Muslims in there too.