Re: Indian Muslims are the most disadvantage group in India
The report states that in some respects, Muslims compare unfavourably even with Dalits (officially called Scheduled Castes), India's former untouchables, who have suffered systematic, cruel discrimination for centuries at the hands of upper-caste Hindus.
Re: India - a failed Republic?
That is correct. The export figures as stated by the ex-IAS officer are as follows:-
China - $762 billion.
India - $90 billion.
Ehsan chacha. :( :)
Re: Indian Muslims are the most disadvantage group in India
why dont I see Indian muslims posting such topics? why is it always pakistanis worrying abt their fates ?
Re: India - a failed Republic?
so..US is no better than India in the export dept. everything here is manufactured either in china or korea or phillipines..so what?
Re: India - a failed Republic?
I assume ex-IAS means some sort of highly placed post in India and so will give some credence to what this guy says.
Fact is India is a poor country with a huge huge population. I have read in every magazine lately about the two startling Indias - the rich tech-savvy urban India and the poor one.
So let's turn this to Pakistan. Would somebody tell me what the two Pakistans are? Should we mention the Pakistan of the army or that of the mullahs? How many more Marriott attacks is it going to take before everyone realizes this? Does anyone realize how hard some people had to 'work' to get Hudood changes? And we criticise others? Why is China's accomplishment any matter of pride for us? what about our own?
Re: Indian Muslims are the most disadvantage group in India
Blah blah blah. The birth control issue sounds more like you're afraid of their numbers than social status. For God's sake, the Hindu birth rate is far from under control.
The fact is, Pakistan absorbed the educated elite. What was left were the rather poor and already uneducated Muslims who gave mindshare to the concept of a unified India. And this is how they are repaid?
We call this being marginalized; yes, blame the already poor for their lot...but it's not as if Hindu society is welcoming to Muslims (unless, of course, they are nominal ones...just look at Bollywood...or your President).
Re: Indian Muslims are the most disadvantage group in India
well half of the population of India lives below poverty and if u say that Muslims are only 10% of the indian population, then out of that 50% below poverty, 80% are hindus too..if u want to say so...then show some pity for them too.
Re: Indian Muslims are the most disadvantage group in India
I don't think we have any Indian Muslims on GupShup. Are they that poor that they can't even afford internet?
If 10% of India is Muslim, shouldn't 1/10 Indians on GS be Muslim?
Re: Indian Muslims are the most disadvantage group in India
Personally I think Indian Muslims are sell outs... But then thats just me...
Re: Indian Muslims are the most disadvantage group in India
well the sample isnt that big on this forum for that kind of stats :P
and yes u can make any kind of reasoning but the thing every person's fate is in their hands..u or ur country isnt going to change anyhting..better worry abt the conditions of poor ppl in your own country before worrying abt helping others. and by that I dont mean to say there arent any poor muslims in India..I have lived in Bhopal and more than half of the population there is Muslims and that population is "normally distributed" on the wealth scale. there are the poorest of the poor and the richest of the rich..and that is true for any society. and if u take the "hindu" population at which u ppl are always taking a dig at (ur fav pasttime) , their condition is no dfferent.
Re: Indian Muslims are the most disadvantage group in India
uh huh… 
Re: Indian Muslims are the most disadvantage group in India
If 10% of India is Muslim, shouldn't 1/10 Indians on GS be Muslim?
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Re: Hindu activists riot in Bangalore
Thats Nithari Killings (Noida) what has it to do with bangalore riots ?
Re: Hindu activists riot in Bangalore
surinder kohli not a brahmin. kohlis not brahmins. and this has nothing to do with bangalore riots
this is shameful act but criminals like this are all over in world like us and even in lahore too
Re: Indian Muslims are the most disadvantage group in India
since our neighbours are busy, telling the percentage poverty to us, which around 30%, then that would mean approximately 30 crores people. the muslim population is around 15 crore then that would imply that there are more number of hindus who are poor than entire muslim population itself . this should make things clear.
Re: Indian Muslims are the most disadvantage group in India
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Re: Indian Muslims are the most disadvantage group in India
Inko hisaab sikhane ki sakht zaroorat hai. master ho to sikhayega ga na.
Re: Hindu activists riot in Bangalore
Kisko samjhane main lage ho ??
Re: India a superpower in the making
Here is recent article about China’s rise in high tech outsourcing.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/BUSINESS/01/24/chi…tion=cnn_latest
Outsourcing in China goes high tech
By Kevin Voigt
For CNN
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(CNN) – When company executives think of IT outsourcing, places such as India’s Bangalore often come to mind. But that may soon change – more and more companies are turning to China as not just a cheap source of low-end manufacturing labor but to harness high-tech intellectual might.
One of the companies leading the way is Freeborders, a 7-year-old company that creates customized software for Fortune 500 companies around the world. Headquartered in San Francisco, the bulk of Freeborders’ staff of 500 programmers is based in Shenzhen, China, across the border from Hong Kong.
“We think the future of (outsourced) programming is in China,” says Freeborders CEO John Cestar. Certainly, it’s a fast growing field in China – the country’s outsourcing market is growing by 36 percent a year and is expected to be a near $4 billion-a-year business by 2009, according to Analysys International. This year, the company – which creates custom software to handle billing, finance and other back-office applications – plans to quadruple its work force in China to 2,000 employees.
In July the company received an Outsourcing Excellence Award from Forbes Magazine for creating a trading platform, fastextile.com, which links textile mills directly to garment manufacturers worldwide. The company was named one of the world’s 50 best managed vendors by “The Black Book of Outsourcing.”
CNN spoke with Cestar about the rising profile of China’s programming might.
CNN: Why did your company choose China over India for its pool of programmers?
Cestar: About eight years ago, everyone caught on about programming in India and there has frankly been very little interest in other country possibilities. What India has pioneered is a software factory model – sort of a “price per pound” approach; we can do “X” amount of programming for you at $10 an hour. Really, it makes IT workers very much like assembly line workers in the apparel industry. They are not asked to be creative.
In China, when I first went there 15 years ago to set up operations for another company, I was hugely impressed by how creatively the programmers thought … they were able to bring a lot of problem-solving skills to the table. It just seems an obvious reservoir to tap for the global market, especially for research and development.
Also, China has much better infrastructure than India … many companies there have to build their own power plants on site because the local power supply is so dicey; that’s not an issue here. And the domestic market for programming has much larger potential than India.
CNN: But don’t you have a problem with English language ability in China compared to India?
Cestar: That’s more a perceived problem than an actual problem. According to NeoIT (an IT analysis firm) there are 5 million who graduate from university in China every year, and a million of them are studying computer science. Of those, at least a third have strong English language skills; of those, about half are conversationally fluent.
It’s really more of a (human resources) problem – you have to give incentives to your staff to constantly improve their English; they know that if they want to succeed in the company to a managerial position, they’ll have to have strong English skills. We have four English professors on staff for training.
CNN: When people think “China” and “software,” they often think of “piracy.” How do you combat that?
Cestar: Clients sometimes ask me, “(Is) the Chinese government going to have a backdoor into your facility?” In Shenzhen, we bring in standards for security which have been approved by international (industrial verification accreditation). When you walk in, the facility is just like anywhere in the Silicon Valley.
To be honest, handling all the compensation information for 8,000 employees of a bank isn’t something that you can peddle on the streets of Shenzhen. In fact, clients often say, “Better you than us” to handle this, because the real problems are if the information is leaked within the company – this information wouldn’t mean anything to you unless you were an employee.
The biggest issue is making sure we have internal isolation and controls in place so competitive information can’t reach a competitor … something they can divine by the nature of project the client has hired us to do. We have internal walls in place between clients who are also competitors.
CNN: What’s the biggest challenge for working with programmers in China?
Cestar: We need to work with our employees in China to understand billing and HR systems, to learn how a financial services company issues a receipt or a bill. You have to incorporate a constant learning environment, so they understand the needs of a company in Chicago putting out payroll.
Re: Hindu activists riot in Bangalore
That incident is in a different place.
But as I said earlier Bangalore seems to a place of discontent. Last April scores of people were killed in violent disturbances following the death of an actor - Rajkumar. The rioters were Hindu I believe.