India kills 2 Pakistani rangers personals after requesting a flag meeting

[Shamraz_Khan]

I remember few months back when few Indian solders were swept away by a river and were rescue by Pakistani rangers…Pakistan should pay them back in same coin.

Exchange of fire along Indo-Pak working boundary, five killed - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Exchange of fire along Indo-Pak working boundary, five killed

Pakistan says India killed two troops invited to meeting
Pakistan claims that the latest round of incidents began when Indian border guards killed two Chenab Rangers’ personnel in Shakargarh sector on Wednesday after calling them for a flag meeting on the Working Boundary.

Naik Riaz Shakir and Lance Naik Mohammad Safdar, who were deputed for the meeting sought by the BSF, died amid a hail of bullets, the Chenab Rangers said.

The Foreign Office summoned the Indian deputy high commissioner to lodge a protest over the incident.

A demarche given to the Indian diplomat asked New Delhi “to investigate the incident, bring the perpetrators to justice and ensure maintenance of peace and tranquility along the Line of Control and the Working Boundary”.

According to Chenab Rangers, the BSF firing on Wednesday morning was unprovoked. Flag meetings are routinely held by troops to settle local matters between the two sides.

Frontier clashes have intensified in recent months, dashing hopes that a brief thaw in relations after Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi was elected in May would lead to a calming of the situation.

The worst violence has been further north in the Kashmir Valley, where separatist militants killed 11 Indian soldiers and police in early December, the worst losses in six years.

Jammu and Kashmir held state elections in December in which Modi’s Bharatiya Janata Party made gains. While leaving the party short of a majority, the result could open the way for it to form a ruling coalition with a regional party.

[Samir_Mirchandani]

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This seems to be one sided reporting. India has warned quite seriously that the days of taking pot shots are over and any such move will be seen as attempts to create diversion by Pak troops to let terrorists cross over into India. It was also made clear that the response will be proportionate but not equal.

It is a shame that even after Peshawar massacre, Pakistan is unable to stop aiding and abetting terrorism!

[Here is the Indian version today](http://Sania Mirza getting appointed ambassador for a new state is a pretty good indicator of absence of institutionalized discrimination. Some people don’t want to rent houses to not just mulsims but any non-vegetarians. But when it happens to celebrities they get offended because they think they have grown above all these issues and when it happens to them it makes news. I know a very high priced building with one apartment owned by a muslim - most of the rest of the owners (especially their wives) hate it because of the fish fries. But nobody can do anything about it because it was bought legally, the men get along fine and there is ZERO animosity. Now is that discrimination? I know a lower middle class rental building as well in another town - roughly half christian and half others - one of the women pluck chickens downstairs and the brahmin people upstairs hated it but couldn’t stop it. When the owner heard of this through a third party, he asked and the tenant stopped the practice. Is that discrimination? BTW the owner is a Christian. India lives by adjusting to each other and has been doing that much longer than the west. When western standards of discrimination are applied without localization you get bizarre results that do not reflect realities. But these are tactics adopted by the mischief mongers mainly and swallowed by gullible youngsters brought up on Indianized cinderella stories of what is fairness.)

Pakistan Rangers today targeted 13 border outposts in Samba sector of Jammu and Kashmir drawing sharp reaction from India, a day after an Indian jawan and four Pakistani soldiers were killed in exchange of fire.

Meanwhile, Director General of Border Security Force D K Pathak briefed Union Home Secretary Anil Goswami about the prevailing situation along the border today where Pakistani Rangers launched fresh firing towards BSF posts.

Sources said a total of five Pakistani Rangers personnel were killed and two critically injured in BSF firing.

BSF also destroyed terrorist launch pad across the border at Abhiyal Dogra but around 23-30 militants, who were stationed there escaped the firing from paramilitary force.

• See more at: Ceasefire violation: Rajnath Singh adopts tit-for-tat policy; says no one can dare cast an evil eye on India | The Indian Express

[kakaballi]

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@Samir_Mirchandani

This seems to be one sided reporting. India has warned quite seriously that the days of taking pot shots are over and any such move will be seen as attempts to create diversion by Pak troops to let terrorists cross over into India. It was also made clear that the response will be proportionate but not equal.

It is a shame that even after Peshawar massacre, Pakistan is unable to stop aiding and abetting terrorism!..

Is is a shame that you’d issue a decree giving much more weight to one side of two sides of one-sided reporting.

[ehsan]

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@Samir_Mirchandani

This seems to be one sided reporting. India has warned quite seriously that the days of taking pot shots are over and any such move will be seen as attempts to create diversion by Pak troops to let terrorists cross over into India. It was also made clear that the response will be proportionate but not equal.

It is a shame that even after Peshawar massacre, Pakistan is unable to stop aiding and abetting terrorism!

[Here is the Indian version today](http://Sania Mirza getting appointed ambassador for a new state is a pretty good indicator of absence of institutionalized discrimination.Some people don’t want to rent houses to not just mulsims but any non-vegetarians. But when it happens to celebrities they get offended because they think they have grown above all these issues and when it happens to them it makes news. I know a very high priced building with one apartment owned by a muslim - most of the rest of the owners (especially their wives) hate it because of the fish fries. But nobody can do anything about it because it was bought legally, the men get along fine and there is ZERO animosity. Now is that discrimination?I know a lower middle class rental building as well in another town - roughly half christian and half others - one of the women pluck chickens downstairs and the brahmin people upstairs hated it but couldn’t stop it. When the owner heard of this through a third party, he asked and the tenant stopped the practice. Is that discrimination? BTW the owner is a Christian.India lives by adjusting to each other and has been doing that much longer than the west. When western standards of discrimination are applied without localization you get bizarre results that do not reflect realities.But these are tactics adopted by the mischief mongers mainly and swallowed by gullible youngsters brought up on Indianized cinderella stories of what is fairness.)

Pakistan Rangers today targeted 13 border outposts in Samba sector of Jammu and Kashmir drawing sharp reaction from India, a day after an Indian jawan and four Pakistani soldiers were killed in exchange of fire.

Meanwhile, Director General of Border Security Force D K Pathak briefed Union Home Secretary Anil Goswami about the prevailing situation along the border today where Pakistani Rangers launched fresh firing towards BSF posts.

Sources said a total of five Pakistani Rangers personnel were killed and two critically injured in BSF firing.

BSF also destroyed terrorist launch pad across the border at Abhiyal Dogra but around 23-30 militants, who were stationed there escaped the firing from paramilitary force.

• See more at: Ceasefire violation: Rajnath Singh adopts tit-for-tat policy; says no one can dare cast an evil eye on India | The Indian Express

it is a shame trolls like you hide behind the Peshawar incident to hide terrorism practiced by your army in this incident.

[Samir_Mirchandani]

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@ehsan

it is a shame trolls like you hide behind the Peshawar incident to hide terrorism practiced by your army in this incident.

seems to be a habit of yours to call anything that doesn’t agree with your jaundiced opinions trolling. Learn the facts first.

[Samir_Mirchandani]

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@kakaballi

Is is a shame that you’d issue a decree giving much more weight to one side of two sides of one-sided reporting.

Pakistan’s history of employing cross border terrorism and border firing as cover to inject terrorists into India corroborates the Indian report. Plus in this set of incidents, the fact that diplomatic channels were invoked to retrieve Pakistani bodies from their advanced location indicates the shenanigans that were trying. If Pak soldiers were in their position why would they need Indian cooperation to retrieve their bodies.

BUT: don’t you think you should ask your question to OP rather than to me who is responding? Kind of like why did you hit back first.

[Med911]

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@Samir_Mirchandani

This seems to be one sided reporting. India has warned quite seriously that the days of taking pot shots are over and any such move will be seen as attempts to create diversion by Pak troops to let terrorists cross over into India. It was also made clear that the response will be proportionate but not equal.

It is a shame that even after Peshawar massacre, Pakistan is unable to stop aiding and abetting terrorism!

[Here is the Indian version today](http://Sania Mirza getting appointed ambassador for a new state is a pretty good indicator of absence of institutionalized discrimination.Some people don’t want to rent houses to not just mulsims but any non-vegetarians. But when it happens to celebrities they get offended because they think they have grown above all these issues and when it happens to them it makes news. I know a very high priced building with one apartment owned by a muslim - most of the rest of the owners (especially their wives) hate it because of the fish fries. But nobody can do anything about it because it was bought legally, the men get along fine and there is ZERO animosity. Now is that discrimination?I know a lower middle class rental building as well in another town - roughly half christian and half others - one of the women pluck chickens downstairs and the brahmin people upstairs hated it but couldn’t stop it. When the owner heard of this through a third party, he asked and the tenant stopped the practice. Is that discrimination? BTW the owner is a Christian.India lives by adjusting to each other and has been doing that much longer than the west. When western standards of discrimination are applied without localization you get bizarre results that do not reflect realities.But these are tactics adopted by the mischief mongers mainly and swallowed by gullible youngsters brought up on Indianized cinderella stories of what is fairness.)

Pakistan Rangers today targeted 13 border outposts in Samba sector of Jammu and Kashmir drawing sharp reaction from India, a day after an Indian jawan and four Pakistani soldiers were killed in exchange of fire.

Meanwhile, Director General of Border Security Force D K Pathak briefed Union Home Secretary Anil Goswami about the prevailing situation along the border today where Pakistani Rangers launched fresh firing towards BSF posts.

Sources said a total of five Pakistani Rangers personnel were killed and two critically injured in BSF firing.

BSF also destroyed terrorist launch pad across the border at Abhiyal Dogra but around 23-30 militants, who were stationed there escaped the firing from paramilitary force.

• See more at: Ceasefire violation: Rajnath Singh adopts tit-for-tat policy; says no one can dare cast an evil eye on India | The Indian Express

Indians will live to regret that decision… Pakistanis are hospitable, but if Indians arent going to control their soldiers, then your soldiers are going to end up in body bags.

Pakistan has supported Kashmiri fighters, but even so, the level of violence on Indian occupied Kashmir has plummeted. So no reason to believe that there is increased infiltration from Azad Kashmir.

And India is currently ruled by a right wing ultra Nationalist govt whos bread and butter is conflict with Pakistan and demonizing of all things Muslim. So, because your Hindu nationalist needs the Pakistani bogey man, its likely the Indian govt has given your soldiers instructions to instigate conflict, and keep the issue in the media so people like you dont think your govt is complascent..

The LOC has been silent for much of the last 10 years or so, and violence in Indian occupied Kashmir has been the lowest since the freedom struggle started in 1989. And yet, suddenly this right wing nationalist govt comes into power in India, and suddenly after all those years, there is violence along the LOC… And there is nothing suspicious about that in your mind!

No no, we should believe Indian media, renowned and admired for their impartiality across the world, because why would they lie!

ps. Rajnath Singh is an idiot who is going to get people killed. Evil eye! He sounds desperate and insecure.

[Ali_Syed]

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@diwana

[Samir_Mirchandani]

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@Med911 - please! if you are responding in a discussion write something specific to it rather than just rambling away and expressing your displeasure. I responded to specific comment that the OP made and corrected the erroneous reports he was using. How does what you think of Rajnath Singh’s eyes matter? You can go gaze at at any pair of eyes you like but that is irrelevant here

[queer]

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@Med911

Indians will live to regret that decision… Pakistanis are hospitable, but if Indians arent going to control their soldiers, then your soldiers are going to end up in body bags.

Pakistan has supported Kashmiri fighters, but even so, the level of violence on Indian occupied Kashmir has plummeted. So no reason to believe that there is increased infiltration from Azad Kashmir.

And India is currently ruled by a right wing ultra Nationalist govt whos bread and butter is conflict with Pakistan and demonizing of all things Muslim. So, because your Hindu nationalist needs the Pakistani bogey man, its likely the Indian govt has given your soldiers instructions to instigate conflict, and keep the issue in the media so people like you dont think your govt is complascent..

The LOC has been silent for much of the last 10 years or so, and violence in Indian occupied Kashmir has been the lowest since the freedom struggle started in 1989. And yet, suddenly this right wing nationalist govt comes into power in India, and suddenly after all those years, there is violence along the LOC… And there is nothing suspicious about that in your mind!

No no, we should believe Indian media, renowned and admired for their impartiality across the world, because why would they lie!

ps. Rajnath Singh is an idiot who is going to get people killed. Evil eye! He sounds desperate and insecure.

all true about india, but pakistanis are a bunch of haters as well. so much hatred for shias and ahmedis, you think they’ll be showering flowers on the “hindu” soldiers? the indian soldier didnt die first because the pakistani soldiers waved their flag too hard. there are too many loose cannons on both sides.

[Captain1]

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May be Pakistan should also call ‘flag meetings’ and de-flag them, why should we trust India any more?

[Captain1]

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baghal mai churi mun pe raam raam.

[queer]

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hook, line and sinker.

once again, the only thing that unites the pakistanis is hating on hindus. good going, lets see how long you can keep this up.

[Captain1]

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@queer

hook, line and sinker.

once again, the only thing that unites the pakistanis is hating on hindus. good going, lets see how long you can keep this up.

once we see Indians stop doing the same

[Med911]

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@queer

all true about india, but pakistanis are a bunch of haters as well. so much hatred for shias and ahmedis, you think they’ll be showering flowers on the “hindu” soldiers? the indian soldier didnt die first because the pakistani soldiers waved their flag too hard. there are too many loose cannons on both sides.

Yes your right. But in regards to relations with India Pakistanis have not generally shown this type of hostility. Like the border security officer last year who was found in Pakistan territory, yet treated with respect and released unharmed.

I repeat my earlier statement… if the problem was with Pakistani soldiers, you would have had multiple such incidences over the past ten years. But the fact is the sh1t seems to have really hit the fan after this new govt. I dont deny there are hot heads on the Pakistani side, but the timing off all this is just to suspicious.

[Med911]

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@queer

hook, line and sinker.

once again, the only thing that unites the pakistanis is hating on hindus. good going, lets see how long you can keep this up.

I dont hate Hindus.

[kakaballi]

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@Samir_Mirchandani

Pakistan’s history of employing cross border terrorism and border firing as cover to inject terrorists into India corroborates the Indian report. Plus in this set of incidents, the fact that diplomatic channels were invoked to retrieve Pakistani bodies from their advanced location indicates the shenanigans that were trying. If Pak soldiers were in their position why would they need Indian cooperation to retrieve their bodies.

BUT: don’t you think you should ask your question to OP rather than to me who is responding? Kind of like why did you hit back first.

So, you would insist on calling Pakistani reports as biased and Indian reports as true?

India’s rejection on letting independent observer groups to monitor cross-border incidents speaks volumes about which party has things to hide.

[diwana]

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I already stated that Pakistanis should never be fooled by the so called ‘vigil’ and actually a drama of crocodile tears, since it was so advertized and distributed on mass scale on internet and news media …for showing the world

" Look look! We are not the bad guys. We feel the pain of Pakistanis. Pakistanis are thankless who do not appreciate our ‘greatness’."

That was the message from all burning candles. Proved to be true.

P.S. Waiting for someone to say “that WAS that, this IS this”,… kind of hogwash.

[Samir_Mirchandani]

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@kakaballi

So, you would insist on calling Pakistani reports as biased and Indian reports as true?

India’s rejection on letting independent observer groups to monitor cross-border incidents speaks volumes about which party has things to hide.

No, unlike Pakistan India does not have to depend upon 3rd party monitors or supervisors. Pakistan was not surprised and was warned quite plainly - If Pakistani soldiers fire at or try to advance or in any other manner create diversion to help their jihadi cohorts sneak into India, they will get fired back at and it will not be 1 for 1. This should be an easy enough message for your ghq as well as field majors to comprehend.

Why instigate and then wail and cry if it gets too hot?

[kakaballi]

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@Samir_Mirchandani

No, unlike Pakistan India does not have to depend upon 3rd party monitors or supervisors. Pakistan was not surprised and was warned quite plainly - If Pakistani soldiers fire at or try to advance or in any other manner create diversion to help their jihadi cohorts sneak into India, they will get fired back at and it will not be 1 for 1. This should be an easy enough message for your ghq as well as field majors to comprehend.

Why instigate and then wail and cry if it gets too hot?

Again, this is a biased story from biased and sensationalist media. Thank you.