India-Iran pact: new dangers for Pakistan?

Should Pakistan be worried about the cosy relationship between Iran and India. Iranian newspapers and websites including the official IRNA website has given prominent coverage to Khatami’s visit to India. Pakistan is also worried about good relationship between Kabul and New Delhi.


India-Iran pact: new dangers for Pakistan

According to unconfirmed Indian reports, an accord signed between India and Iran on January 19 will allow New Delhi to use Iranian military bases in the event of a war with Pakistan. The agreement will also boost Indian armament exports to Iran and base Indian intelligence, security and military experts in Iran to train their Iranian counterparts. Appropriately, the “strategic alliance” came just days ahead of the January 26 visit to India of Iranian President Mohammad Khatami. What should Pakistan make of this?

One thing is clear: If Iran were to actually allow India use of its (Iran’s) military bases in the event of an India-Pakistan war, it would be considered a hostile act on the part of Tehran. That is perhaps why Pakistan’s Foreign Office has rubbished such reports, pointing out it is inconceivable that Iran would do anything of the sort. Apparently, when President Khatami visited Pakistan recently, he was at pains to establish good neighbourly relations with Pakistan and gave many assurances in this regard.

But one needs to go beyond the “if there is a war” scenario to discuss the implications of the budding new military cooperation agreement between India and Iran. The fact is that to all intents and purposes, India and Pakistan are already at “war”. Given the changing dynamics of conflict, as well as the nuclear capabilities on both sides, “war” (or more appropriately covert operations) is now being conducted at multiple levels, including at the sub-conventional level. This means that any Indian presence on Iranian military bases, even if it is for training the Iranians, would theoretically allow New Delhi a more subtle “operational” use of such facilities: early warning, intelligence gathering, and even, conceivably planning and monitoring terrorist attacks on Pakistan. That India has already set up such bases in Afghanistan is now an open secret. Therefore it would make sense for it to link its presence in Iran with similar “training bases” in Afghanistan to “encircle” Pakistan. An Indian military presence in Iran with or without strike capability would enable India in the event of war with Pakistan to create a “holding threat” along its western borders.

India has been making overtures to Iran for a few years now. Indeed, Indian leverage with Iran has steadily grown with the souring of ties between Pakistan and Iran. How have Pakistan and Iran come to this pass – Iran, from basing Pakistani aircraft in 1965 and 1971 to allowing India access to its bases with potentially hostile intent towards Pakistan? Ironically, this situation is the product of Pakistan’s policy to avoid a two-front situation. That policy, woven around Afghanistan, set Pakistan on the path of conflict with Iran. The situation was exacerbated not only by events inside Pakistan – sectarian conflict – but also because of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan.

Fortunately, though, Iran is unlikely to signal overt hostility towards Islamabad. There is a complex array of domestic factors that makes it very difficult to define Iran at this stage. The real Iran is still unfolding. This is why the US is having such difficulty in formulating a viable Iran policy. Also, Iranian support for the Shiite Lebanese Hezbollah militia and the PLO makes it the number one threat for Israel in the “outer circle”. But over the last three years, Israel has become the second largest exporter of weapons to India and India-Israel co-operation continues to grow. India is also eager to be a “strategic partner” of the United States. But the US does not look kindly at Iran’s efforts to develop nuclear-weapons capability. Similarly, Iran cannot resolve Afghanistan with India: whenever that happens, geographic constraints dictate that it will have to resolve it with Pakistan.

In the event, both India and Iran will have to juggle quite a few balls to be able to make this so-called “strategic alliance” work. But there may be openings here for both. India seems embarked on a policy that keeps its regional security requirements separate from its aspirations beyond the region, though there is a dialectic between the two strands at least as far as India’s relations with the US and its hostility towards Pakistan are concerned. Also, to say that it is absolutely impossible for India to court Iran while trying to woo the US is not right. During the Cold War, Pakistan managed to keep strategic partnerships with both China and the United States. In the end, it was in a position to actually serve as a bridge between the two. India could conceivably play the same role between Iran and the US, especially if internal struggles in Iran begin to shape up in favour of the reformists.

Therefore the situation certainly poses a danger to Pakistan. A clear Indian military presence in Iran would require Islamabad to seriously review its regional policy not just with Afghanistan but also with Iran and India. Unfortunately, however, we see no signs of this taking place in Islamabad. In fact, no one is even asking questions of those who supported the way our intelligence agencies conducted the Afghan policy for over a decade or shrugged off the need to have a friendly Iran on our western borders

India-Iran pact: new dangers for Pakistan

Iranian media

http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=1/28/03&Cat=2&Num=019

indian, Iranian Defense Ministers Meet in New Delhi
http://www.tehrantimes.com/Detailview.asp?Keyword=india&Da=1/28/03&Cat=2&Num=2

pakistan need not worry at all...in fact I hope this will enable that tiny fraction of people within pakistan that genuinely believe that India has some problem with muslims, to see the error of their belief. the fact that Iran and India are cooperating should amply demonstrate India's willingsness to work with all regardless of religious persuasion.

To speak truthfully i am a bit wary abot this new found trust both in Iran and now Kabul. Something smell's fishy?

pakistan may form alliance with israel:hehe:

India, (correct me if I am wrong) has very good relations with several middle eastern countries. Iran should not come as a shock. India needs to make friends in the immediate region.

Well, Pakistan and ISI are working closely with Khaleda Zia's government in Bangladesh to create trouble in India's North East. Sheikh Hasina's Awami League govt. was very much pro-Indian. Pakistan has invested a lot of money in getting Khaleda Zia win the elections so that she gives trouble to India from east.

LOL :hehe:

Dude, you guys gettin’ your butt kick from Bengalis :hehe:

Indians never forget to take **ISI - Indian Spankin’ Institute ** Medicine :dixsi: :dixsi: :dixsi:

Pakistan Has Close Understanding With Iran: FM Spokesman :wink:

come on PT! now you have also started quoting pakistani FM spokesman's comments as a gospel?

(you're entitled to your fun but this is too much)

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come on PT! now you have also started quoting pakistani FM spokesman's comments as a gospel?

(you're entitled to your fun but this is too much)
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JJ, you find that gospel?

What you want me to do? Post a link of Indian FM, eh?

Too much fun? Dude, read what Durango said.

whats with india cozying up to axis of evil countries? first we find out about exports of stuff to iraq, and now chums with Iran?

when are they inviting Osama over for dinner? :)

Pakistan is a failed state,’ says Bangladeshi Law Minister Moudud Ahmed. ‘India and Bangladesh should cooperate to develop the entire region. Liberal democracies as we are, we are natural allies.’ He makes a similar point in his book, South Asia: Crisis of Development, which has just been published. As he put it, ‘‘Instead of looking at Pakistan as only a ‘breakaway territory’, Sri Lanka as an ‘off-shore island of India’ separated by the little waterway of the Palk Straits, at Nepal as a ‘land-locked Hindu state’ ethnically tied to India, Bangladesh as a ‘state created by the blood of the Indian soldiers’ and Bhutan as virtually a ‘protectorate’, India could open its heart and adopt a much larger vision, considering itself as an entity beyond the political boundaries of India.’’

Bangladeshi Foreign Minister Morshed Khan denies that Bangladesh has any training camps for insurgents. He also says that the presence of Pakistani ISI is a figment of the Indian imagination. He is ready to allow Indian inspection without notice. But a former minister in the Sheikh Hasina government disagrees. The ISI has always operated from Bangladesh, he says. Now more than ever before.

Nice cut/paste Durango :hehe:

Let we have more :rotfl:

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Pakistan is a failed state,’ says Bangladeshi Law Minister Moudud Ahmed

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Oh this IS rich...look who is talking

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whats with india cozying up to axis of evil countries? first we find out about exports of stuff to iraq, and now chums with Iran?

when are they inviting Osama over for dinner? :)
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wait till we start exporting Linux to N.Korea! that'll really make your day woundn't it!

yep enough former H1B folks to actually send one IT guy with each copy of Linux shipped out. :D wont really make or break my day. I dont really care.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/EA29Df03.html

India, Iran: Strategic realignment

Khatami was careful to balance his present visit to India with another, just a month ago, to Pakistan; as well as to moderate his rhetoric on the more contentious aspects of the India-Pakistan confrontation over Kashmir. The deepening of relations with India, he emphasized, was “not aimed at any third country”. Nevertheless, India and Iran have found it possible to agree that the current campaign against terrorism “should not be based on double standards”, and have sought to work for the early finalization of a comprehensive convention against international terrorism.

There isn't going to be a war between India and Pakistan so it's all bull.

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There isn't going to be a war between India and Pakistan so it's all bull.
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i agree they will not fight and even the three wars they fought was like most gentlest of wars not targetting civilians.

http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20030130-034259-4942r.htm

The nightmare scenario that is unspoken, at least in Pakistan, is of an Islamist general, with the assistance of some of the corps commanders, unseating Musharraf. Anti-U.S. fundamentalist forces would then inherit Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal.
This worst-case scenario is what motivated both India and Iran to sign a strategic agreement a week before Iranian President Muhammad Khatami flew to New Delhi for India’s national day. The Indian naval chief and the Iranian defense minister signed the new pact in Tehran. This was a 180-degree turn by Iran, which has been a close ally of Pakistan in recent years. India also has special relationships with Israel and Russia.
The India-Iran strategic partnership will allow India to use Iranian military bases in the event of any outbreak of hostilities with Pakistan. India has also undertaken to sell Iran a range of armaments.
Islamabad was stunned as Musharraf had raised the possibility of a similar arrangement with Iran’s Khatami when he visited the Pakistani capital over Christmas.

These alliances are all well and good. Do you really think the 'Muslim Burning Hindus' have the guts to fight a war against NUCLEAR ARMED Pakistan?

Now relax and enjoy a cool glass of 'Desai Cola' :)