India Funding Pak Taliban : Says Musharraf

Continue burrying your head in the sand. You seem to either over-estimate your peoples honesty, or their incompetance. I think its both, but that doesnt exclude the fact that Indians are actvely involved in undermining Pakistan:)

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trust me pal, indians cant do that any better than pakistanis have managed on their own.

if you place your trust in the likes of musharraf, dont blame india when you come across as clueless.

Yep … you catch some poor Pakistani fellows and start calling them “RAW” agents … While as India has a"live" Pakistani agent, who came in the motor boat whose engine was suppiled by this guy …

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

*A Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) inspector told the ATC that Muhammad Khan, a resident of Turbat in Balochistan, had allegedly provided a boat to the terrorists to reach Mumbai, sources said. *

Even if its occupied, its occupied by India. So ISI is still poking its nose in the affairs of India which is not "perfectly legal".

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In Pakistan these days, the politically correct thing to do is to blame the sun, the stars, the moon, India, USA, Israel, Iran.....whatever coms to their mind everytime their own dear ISI supported taleban bursts a few high grade crackers in a crowded place.

Musharaf is no exception. Just noise.

hmm dear u should care abt naxalites uprising..dont u?..they r kicking ur army and police ass on daily basis..indians deserve tht…u have hundreds of thousands of soldiers in kashmir and still cannot control the situation…isi should also start clashes between hindus and muslims..i hope it will give even more “fun” time for ur coward army …

LMAO!! ANC peaceful Look instead of mouthing off read about the ANC and who formed the "Spear of the Nation".

Kashmir is not part of India. It is an international disputed territory. If Nehru or any of your leaders were actually honest people, the Kashmiris would have had the right to decide their own fate.

Largest democracy in the world my ass when you don't give the people of kashmir that right.

Oh yes so many Indians on a Pakistani forum...what does that say with you lot and your fixation on pakistan?

hey mr traitor! what about dealing RAW, USA AND INDIA IN the language which they all understand. ehh?

The language of bombs and bullets

lol dont call him out on that. as i remember if a pakistani posts a factual article about prostitution in india, they are just doing it to feel better, where as if a confused hybrid of indian posts same diatribes about "head stuck in sand" in mosts threads about pakistan on a pakistani forum its in the interest of pakistan. reflects the mentality of their nation i guess.

It’s just like saying

India needs a lesson in the language they understand " i hope thousands of ISI trained suicide bombers cross border and blow themselves up killing millions of Indians". I would be very happy if ISI is indeed sponsoring terrorism in India (Mumbai attack, Parliament attack etc).

I always knew you were a SICK guy but thanks for showing your true colours.
If a Pakistani said something as sick as this on Indian forum, he would have been banned by now, how come this sick B*****d can continue to post on this forum???

 Let me repeat my old commend  to the Indians in this forum .Keep away from these people ,our strayed brothers. They just want to live in a dreamy world. Please see and enjoy that . Dont tell them  about their dreams.

The way things are .... it seems these ISI trained suicide bombers are on "job training" in Pakistan .... and the way they are going, there wont be many left with "skills" to attack India :D

Ah right!

Fight is on between Indo-Pak Rajas and maha-maha-Munna-rajas.

A Munna-raja from Pakistan posts a link to a link to a link to Prez Musharraf.

Then whole bunch of Munnah-rajas from India clasp their dhotis and jump in the fray.

and guess what, no body care to quote the ACTUAL interview and discuss Prez Musharraf in a sane, grown up manner. But that off course is too much to expect from Munnah rajas. Because Munnah is Munnah and not a grown up.

Here is a link to spiegel. Read the interview and then discuss the subject of this thread.

SPIEGEL Interview with Pervez Musharraf: Obama ‘Is Aiming at the Right Things’ - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

Here is the part where India/RAW comes up.

SPIEGEL: Are you disappointed by Obama?

Musharraf: No, he is aiming at the right things. He is showing intentions of improving the dialogue with the Muslim world, which is good. He is right when he says that more forces must be deployed in Afghanistan. There is an intention of increasing funding for Pakistan, which is also good. But he also has to understand the reality in Pakistan and I am not sure he does.

SPIEGEL: And how is the situation?

Musharraf: One of the realities is that the Indian intelligence service RAW is interfering in our country. For example in Balochistan, our largest province bordering Iran and Afghanistan. One of the most brutal insurgents against our forces, Brahamdagh Bugti …

SPIEGEL: … the grandson of Nawab Bugti, a tribal leader who was killed three years ago in a battle with the Pakistani army …

Musharraf: … he is sitting in Kabul, protected by the Afghan government and provided with weapons and money by the Indian intelligence agency RAW. He has his own training camps and sends his fighters to Balochistan where they terrorize people and damage the civil infrastructure. RAW is also interfering in the Swat Valley, I know that. Where do all these Taliban fighters in Swat get their arms and money from? From Afghanistan. The Indian consulates in Jalalabad and Kandahar only exist to be a thorn in the side of Pakistan.

So the discussion starts with emphasis on Prez Obama’s policies in Af.

  1. Musharraf Agrees with Prez Obama’s approach

except

  1. Prez Musharraf is not happy with USA letting India operate two consulates in Af, the one in Jalalabad and the other in Kandhar. This is due to historic links between India and Pakistan’s ethnic groups.

  2. Prez Musharraf is not happy with USA letting Afghanistan given shelter to Bugti’s son.

Where Muharraf may be wrong.

  1. Taliban menace has been in Swat and FATA LONG before 2001 and long before Indian consulates in Jalalabad and Kandhar. Vicious militant organizations like TNSM cannot simply be blamed on India.

  2. Weapons for Taliban. They come right from Pakistani tribal areas. There are HUGE arms manufacturing and smuggling places OPENLY operating in tribal area. Anyone familiar with Landi Kotal, BARA, or Darra Adam Khel knows that you can buy a pen-pistol all the way to heavy machine guns from these places. All you need is money. And money for Islamists comes from other Islamists like Saudi charities. While money for ethnic groups comes from India, Russia and Iran.

  3. Jesh Muhammad and Sipah sahaba have existed and prospered in Punjab and FATA LONG before post-911 world and Indian consulates in Jalalabad and Kandhar. So it will be childish if anyone blames JM or SS on India.

  4. The only part where India can get blamed for happens to be in the ethnic parties and groups. Mainly the three groups do get financial and moral support from India. They are ethnic groups/sub gorups in Sindh, Balochistan, Karachi, and Frontier.

However the ethnic groups in Karachi aka MQM and one in Frontier aka ANP both are in the Pak Government now and both of them are fully supporting Pak army. This leaves Baloch and Sindhi ethnic groups. And only Balochi ethnic groups like BLA are doing anything that can be perceived as anti-Pakistan.

So the Indian influence on Pakistani trouble maker is there but it must be viewed in a very limited scope, instead of blaming every lawless issue in Pakistan on a pathetic of an agency called RAW.

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^lol what a maha raja analysis.

Mushy these days is proudly giving lecture to the "managers" at KFC and Pizza hut :D ..... So his interviews are a way of trying to say .... hey i am here listen to me !!!!!

Pakistan does not get to decide who puts up consulates in Afghanistan(surprised he is only talking about the two ... what happened to the 14 consulates !!!!!)

Right now Bugti is not a threat to Pakistan ...... so the point is irrelevant !!!!!!

Is this a Munnah Raja statement or you attended one by yourself?

Not sure what you want to say here. It is obvious that Pakistanis may complain but they cannot "decide".

Yet another Munnah-raja statement perhaps?

so an Indian has to decide if an ethnic militant organization is a threat to Pak or not. What are you trying to say brotha?

FYI. BLA is active and on regular basis it tries to damage Pak infrastructure and attacks Pak law enforcement agents.

Or perhaps you have some 'insider" info?

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all verbose analysis aside, musharaff is finding things to say to earn the lecture and interview fees. if he says the truth that internal factions (political. military, religious and intelligence) themselves are funding and arming the terrorists, he will be tarred on the streets. blaming India is his way out.

don't take these guys seriously.

From Munna’s mouth … :smiley:
SPIEGEL Interview with Pervez Musharraf: Obama ‘Is Aiming at the Right Things’ - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

Musharraf: … In Prague, I am giving a lecture on leadership in front of high-level managers at a company which owns Pizza Hut and KFC.

Pakistan right now is facing a crippling attack from the Taliban … since he has nothing to show for that … he is trying to get India into the picture. Bugti right now is irrelevant to what is happening in Pakistan!!!

But Mushy needs to stay in picture … after all it was the “famous” Kargil ops against India that brought him to power !!!

These chains are owned by the parent company named Yum brands. The parent company is a fortune 500 , $11 B firm. These large corporations invite big name leaders and scholars for their executive meetings and pay $100,000s .

And Munnah Raja wants to say that Muharraf is going to give lecture in the corner KFC.

Hahahha.

bhai kaisay jokes sunaatay ho?

I never said that he was giving it on the "corner" KFC :D .... your mind is playing games with you .......

The americans take good care of their proteges !!!!!