India and its neighbors...

[Navy7Army0]

Re: India and its neighbors...

Whether India bullies or not, Pakistan is certainly bullying India

[diwana]

@saregamapa

What Pakistanis thinks about India ...............

Arshad Bhatti has been ....States.” An optimist, no doubt. Anees Jillani is a lawyer based in Islamabad

The article has many flaws. Person does not know what he is talking about.

Anyway, the article is not the center of discussion and it fails to show why Indian neighbors might be tired of Indian attitude.

[danday_wala]

Re: India and its neighbors...

The question remains... why india's neighbors are fed up with her?

Lately india is acting like a "Muhalley ki Maasi" who is trying hard to make elephants out of mosquitoes.

One more time....get the message, neighbors are fed up!

[Ambassador1]

Hi,

I couldnt help but quote your entire post.

This is an excellent article. Although, RAW is engaged in destabilizing Pakistan in many more ways than just through training/financing jihadis from the back door but also:

1. Through weakening Pakistani economy (indian agents on Pak soil) - Just like America’s economy (Taking management control of huge american financial enterprises, eg; CITI group, etc.)

I. Major loadshedding (RAW ‘links’ with soul selling ministers) - Causing halt of several major & minor industries specifically textile industry,

II. Blocking of water to Pakistan for the production of crops, hence putting Pakistan, a state which is majorly an agricultural state, under immense pressure to import edible items which could rather be produced at home even exported,

III. Total freezing of Pak tourism sector specifically to Sawat valley + all northern areas by sending/training/financing criminals into those areas and the rest of Pakistan so tourism industry also dies eventually,

IV. The only sports majorly played country-wide - Cricket is made to die through manipulation of gamblers and internal concerned staff controlling the affirs of this sports.

V. Many more which I am missing.

2. Inciting Talibans into shaking hands with Al Qaida (Extension of RAW, made precisely for the purpose of weakening Americas and Pakistan) by making them ‘fight for the same cause’ of desstabilizing America & its’ supporters (Pakistan).

3. Lawlessness in the country through complete halt of Justice system. so that there is no punishment for the criminals, traitors of the country. and instead country is run as per the indian interests in the absence of the justice system.

4. Through bringing a chamcha of their own into power (zardari) through their ‘links’ and ‘warm relations’ with Paki soul selling bureaucrats and ministers - So incompetent to raise any voice against what he has been intsructed to do as opposed to BB, ZA, IK or any other.

5. Through taking control of the ‘education’ sector, again through soul selling ministers, of Pakistan to make it what they want to make it - So the new generation of Pakistani nation is jahil, incompetent at everything.

6. Aggressive campeigns at huge scales to promote their bollysh!t culture into Pakistan so the Pakistanis start to live in fantasies instead of see the reality - INDIANS ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY CREATURES.

7. Through inciting internal conflicts ranging from, political turmoils to conflicts between civil Vs military communities, load-shedding - Total depression for the Pakistani nation, and many more which I am missing.

8. Through dragging the int’l communities into believing Pakistan is a ‘terrorist’ state by bad repute of Pakistan through their own and the int’l media they control.

9. Many more which Im missing right now.

Almost all of the above mentioned tactics of RAW have been used before by older generations of indians before 1947 with the muslims of south asia. Be it their dances (present bollysh!t), seggregation against the muslims through their same old games of manipulation of british: Them muslims are your enemies because you took away power from them and we are your friends so provide so we deserve better opportunities, better prospects, better living standards, better treatment, better privileges and not them mulsims because they are your enemies. AND by exploitation of stupid muslims: Look ‘hindu-muslim’ bhai bhai. These goras are our mutual enemies. We need to unite against them together to ‘rise’ (Excatly how they’ve been fooling the present bunch of stupid Pakistanis around the globe). We both ‘share’ the same culture and history. We dont want to import the ‘western’ culture into our communities. Let’s unite to fight against them together.

That is precisely the reason why Qaid-E-Azam demnded for a seperate land for muslims where ALL the religious minorities could co-exist together without any prejudice (Exactly in line with the teachings of Islam). THAT was the dream of Qaid-E-Azam. He did not obtain this land for the RADICAL minded to gether in one place as these terrorist indian agents have turned it into. But he wanted a land which provides security to unprivileged muslims of south asia (because of hindu exploitation of the british) + to provide security to ALL the minorities victims of hindu terrorrism and extremism. But the jahil Pakistanis FORGOT the basic purpose of why Pakistan was made. Pakistanis continued to being exploited by the indian notion which serves indian agendas: ISLAM IS A RADICAL RELIGION & MUSLIMS MUST ACT LIKE IT. What we see happening around the world is a prime example of the same, now global, indian exploitation which started right after the fall of mughal empire.

All these tactics are nothing new. All of these have been into work before and are being used over and over again over the course of history. But do these muslims learn from their mistakes? NO!!! Despite having faced with the same scenarios and having sufferred exactly the same and more by ‘trusting’ them snakes, they continue to do so and God knows how long they will continue to be fooled.

What them ‘muslims’ need to understand is WEST is NOT their FOE. It is them crooks who continue to exploit them AND the west AGAINST each other. As that’s what they are the best at. History is a clear proof. Why do we not learn our lessons???

On the other hand, these crooks themselves adopted the wisdom of Qaid of obtaining a land which can be a home to all kinds of communities regardless of their religion background or ethnicity and proudly show it off to the world regardless of the fact that the reality is pushed under the rug. But even to show to the world, they cleverly adopted OUR leader’s (Qaid’s) ISLAMIC view point of co-existace of all kind of communities on one land without any fears and prejudice.

But what have Pakistanis learned from the events from the history over the course of several decades since 1947??? How to do “bollysh!t dancin’”. And how to keep the book called Quran into our cabinets for safety and completely and entirely adopt to the teachings of terrorism and extremism of hindus but name it ISLAM and spread that terror around the world IN THE NAME OF ISLAM. That’s what we have learned and very well acting exactly like these hindu terrorists want us to. Whereas the reality is we are NOT following QURAN but we are following hindu terrorism which exists since long before 1947 and keeps growing.

That’s also the main reason of the fall of muslims. Only if Muslims open their ‘right’ versions of Quran, READ it, PONDER over it, UNDERSTAND it and then imply it in their everyday life, there is no way a hindu can impose their terror filled uncivilized mentality over ANY believer, whether it be Jewish, christians OR muslims. As these three faiths are the branches of the same message and from the same God but different messengers. Only if present muslims could understand that.

@diwana

No idea why its true that India has no real friends in its neighbors. Perhaps its very opportunistic policies and bullying attitude towards smaller countries.

**India takes reaction from of its neighbors as “jealosy”. **

It has a sense of supiriority complex despite so many flaws how the country is being run and public is encouraged to fight among themselves. A tiny country as Srilanka and a huge country like India. Just does not look right when India bullys Sri Lanka. Perhaps it enhances its ego.

One may refer to this

How R.A.W. (Intelligence Services in India) Preys on its neighbors (internal and external) using terror as an instrument/tool of Imperialism - total_truth_sciences | Google Groups

R.A.W.: An Instrument of Indian Imperialism

Isha Khan
Dhaka, Bangladesh
September 12, 2007

India’s intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing (R.A.W.), created in 1968, has
assumed a significant status in the formulation of the country’s domestic and foreign
policies, particularly the latter. Working directly under the prime minister, it has
over the years become an effective instrument of India’s national power. In consonance
with Kautilya’s precepts, R.A.W.'s espionage doctrine is based on the principle of
waging a continuous series of battles of intrigues and secret wars. (Kautilya, or more
popularly, Chânakya, was an ancient Indian political theorist.)

Since its creation, R.A.W. has been a vital, though unobtrusive, actor in the Indian
policy-making apparatus. But it is the massive international dimensions of R.A.W.
operations that merit a closer examination. To the credit of this organization, it has
in a very short span of time mastered the art of spy warfare. Credit must go to Indira
Gandhi who in the late 1970’s gave it a changed and much more dynamic role. To suit her
much publicized Indira Doctrine (India Doctrine), Gandhi specifically asked R.A.W. to
create a powerful organ within the organization that could undertake covert operations
in neighboring countries. It is this capability that makes R.A.W. a more fearsome agency
than the superior K.G.B., C.I.A., M.I.6, B.N.D., or Mossad.

Its internal role is confined only to monitoring events that have a bearing on the
external threat. R.A.W.'s boss works directly under the prime minister. An Additional
secretary to the government of India, under the director of R.A.W., is responsible for
the Office of Special Operations, intelligence collected from different countries,
internal security (under the director general of security), the electronic/technical
section, and general administration. The additional secretary as well as the director
general of security is also under the director of R.A.W. The director of security has
two important sections: the Aviation Research Center and the Special Services Bureau.
The joint director has specified desks with different regional divisions/areas
(countries): area one, Pakistan; area two, China and Southeast Asia; area three, the
Middle East and Africa; and area four, other countries.

The Aviation Research Center (A.R.C.) is responsible for interception, monitoring and
jamming of a target country’s communication systems. It has the most sophisticated
electronic equipment and also a substantial number of aircraft equipped with
state-of-the-art eavesdropping devices. A.R.C. was strengthened in mid-1987 by the
addition of three new aircraft, all Gulf Stream-3s. These aircraft can reportedly fly at
an altitude of 52,000 feet and have an operating range of 5,000 kilometers. A.R.C. also
controls a number of radar stations located close to India’s borders. Its aircraft also
carry out oblique reconnaissance, along the border with Bangladesh, China, Nepal, and
Pakistan.

Having been given virtual carte blanche to conduct destabilization operations in
neighboring countries inimical to India, R.A.W. seriously undertook restructuring of its
organization accordingly. R.A.W. was given a list of seven countries—Bangladesh, Sri
Lanka, Nepal, Sikkim, Bhutan, Pakistan, and Maldives—that India considered its principal
regional protagonists. It very soon systematically and brilliantly crafted covert
operations in all these countries to coerce, destabilize, and subvert them in consonance
with the foreign policy objectives of the Indian government.

R.A.W.'s operations against the regional countries were conducted with great
professional skill and expertise. Central to the operations was the establishment of a
huge network inside the target countries. It used and targeted political dissent, ethnic
divisions, economic backwardness, and criminal elements within these states to foment
subversion, terrorism, and sabotage. Having thus created conducive environments, R.A.W.
stage-managed future events in these countries in such a way that military intervention
appears a natural concomitant of the events. In most cases, R.A.W.'s hand remained
hidden, but more often than not target countries soon began unearthing this “hidden
hand.” A brief expose of R.A.W.'s operations in neighboring countries, "Open Secrets:
India’s Intelligence Unveiled " by M. K. Dhar (Manas Publications, New Delhi, 2005),
revealed the full expanse of its regional ambitions to suit the India Doctrine.

Bangladesh

Indian intelligence agencies were involved in erstwhile East Pakistan, now Bangladesh,
beginning in the early 1960’s. Its operatives were in touch with Sheikh Mujib for quite
some time. Sheikh Mujib went to Agartala in 1965. The famous Agartala case was unearthed
in 1967. In fact, the main purpose of raising R.A.W. in 1968 was to organize covert
operations in Bangladesh. As early as 1968, R.A.W. was given a green light to begin
mobilizing all its resources for the impending surgical intervention in erstwhile East
Pakistan. When in July 1971 General Manekshaw told Prime Minister Indira Gandhi that the
army would not be ready until December to intervene in Bangladesh, she quickly turned to
R.A.W. for help. R.A.W. was ready. Its officers used Bengali refugees to set up the
guerilla force Mukti Bahini. Using this outfit as a cover, the Indian military sneaked
deep into Bangladesh. The story of Mukti Bahini and R.A.W.'s role in its creation and
training is now well known. R.A.W. never concealed its Bangladesh operations. (See Asoka
Raina’s "Inside R.A.W.: the story of India’s Secret Service, Vikas Publishing House of
New Delhi.)

The creation of Bangladesh was masterminded by R.A.W. in complicity with the K.G.B.
under the covert clauses of the Indo-Soviet Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation
(adopted as the 25-Year Indo-Bangladesh Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation in 1972).

R.A.W. retained a keen interest in Bangladesh even after its independence. Subramaniam
Swamy, Janata Dal member of Parliament, a close associate of Morarji Desai, said that
Rameswar Nath Kao, former chief of R.A.W., and Shankaran Nair were upset about Sheikh
Mujib’s assassination and chalked a plot to kill Gen. Ziaur Rahman. However, when Desai
came to power in 1977 he was indignant at R.A.W.'s role in Bangladesh and ordered
operations in Bangladesh to be called off; but by then R.A.W. had already gone too far.
General Zia continued in power for quite some time but was assassinated after Indira
Gandhi returned to power, though she denied involvement in his assassination (Weekly
Sunday, Calcutta, Sept. 18, 1988).

R.A.W. was involved in training of Chakma tribes and Shanti Bahini, who carried out
subversive activities in Bangladesh. It also unleashed a well-organized plan of
psychological warfare, created polarization among the armed forces, propagated false
allegations of the use of Bangladesh territory by Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence
agency, created dissension among the political parties and religious sects, controlled
the media, denied the use of river waters, and propped up a host of disputes in order to
keep Bangladesh under constant political and socio-economic pressure (See “R.A.W. and
Bangladesh” by Mohammad Zainal Abedin, November 1995, and “R.A.W. in Bangladesh:
Portrait of an Aggressive Intelligence,” written and published by Abu Rushd, Dhaka).

Sikkim and Bhutan

Sikkim was the easiest and most docile prey for R.A.W. Indira Gandhi annexed the Kingdom
of Sikkim in the mid-1970’s. The deposed King Chogyal Tenzig Wangehuck was closely
followed by R.A.W.'s agents until his death in 1992.

Bhutan, like Nepal and Sikkim, is a land-locked country totally dependent on India.
R.A.W. developed links with members of the royal family as well as top bureaucrats to
implements its policies. It cultivated agents from among Nepalese settlers and put
itself in a position to create difficulties for the government of Bhutan. In fact, the
king of Bhutan has been reduced to the position of merely acquiescing to New Delhi’s
decisions and goes by its dictates in the international arena.

Sri Lanka

Post-independence Sri Lanka, despite having a multi-sectoral population, was a peaceful
country until 1971 and was following an independent foreign policy. During the 1971
Indo-Pakistan war, despite heavy pressure from India, Sri Lanka allowed Pakistan’s civil
and military aircraft and ships to stage through its air and seaports with unhindered
refueling facilities. It had also permitted Israel to establish a nominal intelligence
presence and permitted the installation of a high-powered transmitter by Voice of
America, which was resented by India.

It was because of these “irritants” that Indira Gandhi planned to bring Sri Lanka into
the fold of the so-called Indira Doctrine (India Doctrine). Kao was told by Gandhi to
repeat their Bangladesh success. R.A.W. went looking for militants it could train to
destabilize the regime. Camps were set up in Tamil Nadu and old R.A.W. guerrilla
trainers were dug out of retirement. R.A.W. began arming the Tamil Tigers and training
them at centers such as Gunda and Gorakhpur. As a sequel to this ploy, Sri Lanka was
forced into the Indian power web when the Indo-Sri Lanka Accord of 1987 was singed and
the Indian Peacekeeping Force landed in Sri Lanka.

The Ministry of External Affairs was upset at R.A.W.'s role in Sri Lanka as they felt
that R.A.W. was continuing negotiations with Tamil Tiger leader Parabhakaran in
contravention to the Indian government’s foreign policy. According to R. Swaminathan,
(former special secretary of R.A.W.) it was this outfit that was used as the
intermediary between Rajib Gandhi and Tamil leader Parabhakaran. Former Indian high
commissioner in Sri Lanka J. N. Dixit even accused R.A.W. of having given 10 million
rupees to the L.T.T.E. (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam). At a later stage, R.A.W.
built up the E.P.R.L.F. (Eelam People’s Revolutionary Liberation Front) and E.N.D.L.F.
(Eelam National Democratic Liberation Front) to fight against the L.T.T.E., which made
the situation in Sri Lanka highly volatile and uncertain later on.

Maldives

Under a well-orchestrated R.A.W. plan, on Nov. 30, 1988, a 300- to 400-strong
well-trained force of mercenaries armed with automatic weapons, initially said to be of
unknown origin, infiltrated in boats and stormed the capital of Maldives. They resorted
to indiscriminate shooting and took high-level government officials hostage. At the
Presidential Palace, the small contingent of loyal national guards offered stiff
resistance, which enabled President Maumoon Abdul Gayoom to move to a safe place where
he issued urgent appeals for help from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Britain, and the
United States.

Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi reacted promptly and about 1,600 combat troops
belonging to the 50th Independent Para-Brigade in conjunction with Indian naval units
landed at Male, the capital of Maldives, under the code name Operation Cactus. A number
of Indian air force transport aircraft, escorted by fighters, were used for landing
personnel, heavy equipment, and supplies. Within hours of landing, Indian troops flushed
out the attackers from the streets and hideouts. Some of them surrendered to Indian
troops, and many were captured by Indian naval units while trying to escape with their
hostages in a Maldivian ship, Progress Light. Most of the 30 hostages, including Ahmed
Majtaba, Maldives’ minister of transport, were released. The Indian government announced
the success of Operation Cactus and complimented the armed forces for a good job done.

The Indian defense minister, while addressing air force personnel at Bangalore, claimed
that the country’s prestige had been raised because of the peace-keeping role played by
Indian forces in Maldives. The international community in general and South Asian states
in particular, however, viewed with suspicion the over-all concept and motives of the
operation. The Western media described it as a display by India of its newly acquired
military muscle and its growing role as a regional police force. Although the apparent
identification of two Maldivian nationals among the mercenaries, at face value, link it
with previous such attempts, other converging factors indicative of external involvement
could hardly be ignored. That the mercenaries sailed from Manar and Kankasanturai in Sri
Lanka, which were in complete control of the Indian Peacekeeping Force, and the timing
and speed of India’s intervention proved its involvement beyond any doubt.

Nepal

Since the partition of the subcontinent, India has openly meddled in Nepal’s internal
affairs by contriving internal strife and conflicts through R.A.W. to destabilize the
successive legitimate governments and prop up puppet regimes that would be more amenable
to Indian machinations. Armed insurrections were sponsored and abetted by R.A.W. and
later requests for military assistance to control these conflicts were managed through
pro-India leaders. India has been aiding and inciting the Nepalese dissidents to
collaborate with the Nepali Congress. For this they were supplied arms whenever the king
or the Nepalese government appeared to be drifting away from India’s dictates and
impinging on India’s hegemonic designs in the region. In fact, under the garb of the
so-called democratization measures, the Maoists were actively encouraged to collect arms
and resort to open rebellion against the legitimate Nepalese governments. The contrived
rebellions provided India an opportunity to intervene militarily in Nepal, ostensibly to
control the insurrections, which were masterminded by R.A.W. itself. It was an active
replay of the Indian performance in Sri Lanka and Maldives a few years earlier. R.A.W.
is particularly aiding the people of Indian origin and has been providing them with arms
and ammunition. R.A.W. has also infiltrated the ethnic Nepali refugees who have been
extradited by Bhutan and taken refuge in eastern Nepal. R.A.W. can exploit its links
with these refugees whenever either country goes against Indian interests. Besides, the
Nepalese economy is totally controlled by Indian moneylenders, financiers, and business
mafia. (See “R.A.W.'s Machinations in South Asia” by Shastra Dutta Pant, Kathmandu,
2003.)

Afghanistan

Since December 1979, throughout the Afghan War, the K.G.B., K.H.A.D. (W.A.D.) (a former
Afghan intelligence outfit), and R.A.W. stepped up their efforts to concentrate on
influencing and covertly exploiting the tribes on both sides of the Pakistan-Afghanistan
border. There was intimate coordination between the three intelligence agencies not only
in Afghanistan but also in Pakistan, where destabilization was sought through a
subversion and sabotage plan related to Afghan refugees and mujahideen in the tribal
belt and inside Pakistan. They jointly organized spotting and recruitment of hostile
tribesmen and trained them in guerrilla warfare, infiltration, subversion, sabotage, and
the establishment of saboteur forces/terrorist organizations in the pro-Afghan tribes of
Pakistan in order to carry out bombings in Afghan refugee camps in the Northwest
Frontier province (NWFP) and Baluchistan to threaten and pressure them to return to
Afghanistan. They also carried out bomb blasts in populated areas deep inside Pakistan
to create panic and hatred in the minds of locals against Afghan refugee mujahideen to
pressure Pakistan to change its policies on Afghanistan.

Pakistan

Pakistan’s size, strength, and potential have always overawed India. It has always
considered Pakistan to be the main opponent to its expansionist doctrine. India’s
animosity toward Pakistan is psychologically and ideologically deep-rooted and
unassailable. India’s 1965 and 1971 wars with Pakistan over Kashmir, which resulted in
the dismemberment of Pakistan and the creation of Bangladesh, are just two examples.

R.A.W. considers Sindh province to be Pakistan’s soft underbelly. It has made it the
prime target for sabotage and subversion. R.A.W. has enrolled an extensive network of
agents and antigovernment elements and is convinced that with a little push restless
Sindh will revolt. Taking full advantage of the agitation in Sindh in 1983, and the
periodic ethnic riots, which have continued to today, R.A.W. has deeply penetrated Sindh
and cultivated dissidents and secessionists, thereby creating hard-liners unlikely to
allow peace to return to Sindh. R.A.W. is also similarly involved in Baluchistan.

R.A.W. is also being blamed for confusing the ground situation is Kashmir so as to keep
the world’s attention away from the gross human rights violations in Indian-occupied
Kashmir. Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency (I.S.I.), being almost 20 years
older than R.A.W. and having acquired a much higher standard of efficiency in its
functioning, has become the prime target of R.A.W.'s designs. The I.S.I. is considered
to be a stumbling block in R.A.W.'s operations and has been made a target of massive
misinformation and propaganda campaigns. The tirade against I.S.I. continues unabated.
The idea is to keep I.S.I. on the defensive by alleging that it has had a hand in
supporting the Kashmiri mujahideen and the Sikhs in Punjab. R.A.W.'s fixation on I.S.I.
has taken the shape of I.S.I.-phobia, as in India everyone traces the origin of all
happenings and shortcomings to the I.S.I. Whenever and wherever there is a kidnapping, a
bank robbery, a financial scandal, a bomb blast, or what have you, the I.S.I. is deemed
to have had a hand in it. (See “R.A.W.: Global and Regional Ambitions” edited by Rashid
Ahmad Khan and Muhammad Saleem, Islamabad Policy Research Institute, Asia Printers,
Islamabad, 2005).
In summary, R.A.W. over the years has admirably fulfilled its tasks of destabilizing
target states through the unbridled export of terrorism. The Indira Doctrine spelt out a
difficult and onerous role for R.A.W. It goes to its credit that it has accomplished its
assigned objectives due to the endemic weakness in the state apparatus of these nations
and the failures of their leaders.

[simplyme]

Re: India and its neighbors...

^^

I stopped reading after the first few lines. You are attributing more credit to Indians than that is due. Just because an Indian is the CEO of Citigroup, that does not mean the Indians are planning to destabilise the American economy. You might not have heard of something called "merit". He was selected due to his merit and is a very eminent professional who is widely respected.

Maybe a new conspiracy theory to keep your brains busy...

The whole economic depression is engineered by Indians so as to weaken the American economy and stop the US from giving aid to Pakistan. Please do some more research on this theory and not surprisingly you would be able to get a lot of support from the posters here.

At the very least just dont stay in fantasy land. Please come back to reality. It helps to understand what is reality once in a while.

[simplyme]

The question remains... why india's neighbors are fed up with her?

Lately india is acting like a "Muhalley ki Maasi" who is trying hard to make elephants out of mosquitoes.

One more time....get the message, neighbors are fed up!

We get the message. The neighbours are fed up... But one of the biggest problems with India's western neighbours is that they pee in their pants when asked for a direct confrontation and hide under the cloak of terrorism to prick India.

A classic example would be your President refusing to accept your fallen soldiers and claiming that the soldiers were indeed native freedom fighters in Kargil.

[CM]

Re: India and its neighbors...

Its amazing. You can look by the posts of the Indian members of this forum, that they do not want peace. They do wish to destroy Pakistan and they rejoice in the negative impact it gets.

[simplyme]

Re: India and its neighbors...

Destroying Pakistan should not be on the agenda of any right thinking Indian. Pakistan possesses nuclear weapon. The first action that Pakistan would do ,if it realises that it is being destryoed is to launch the nuclear weapon against India. Also we need a strong buffer state against the failed state of Afghanistan. Hence it is in India's intereset to have a Pakistan. (Not strong Not weak just be there that is all we ask you to be !!!)

[CM]

Re: India and its neighbors...

So you are a wrong thinking Indian by your own definition. You rejoice in the negative image of a country you want peace with.

[danday_wala]

Look at this post…

@simplyme

We get the message. The neighbours are fed up… But one of the biggest problems with India’s western neighbours is that they pee in their pants when asked for a direct confrontation and hide under the cloak of terrorism to prick India.

And how india is asking for direct confrontation:

Stop running to mummy, US, to tackle terror: BJP to govt-India-The Times of India

"Stop running to mummy, US, to tackle terror: BJP to govt

NEW DELHI: Pledging support for a full-scale war against terror, Opposition BJP on Thursday said the government must stop “running” to Washington hoping that the US would come to its rescue in tackling Pakistan…"

Asking for direct confrontation …

[Navy7Army0]

Its amazing. You can look by the posts of the Indian members of this forum, that they do not want peace. They do wish to destroy Pakistan and they rejoice in the negative impact it gets.

how can anyone want peace with Pakistan when your primary export seems to be terrorism? Every other day some new outfit springs up spreading ak47 and jihad. Every other day for god's sake! what's the point talking peace with you when all you do is sponsor terrorism!

[mo293]

@Navy7Army0

how can anyone want peace with Pakistan when your primary export seems to be terrorism?

Pot calling kettle black..

[mo293]

@danday_wala

Look at this post…

And how india is asking for direct confrontation:

Stop running to mummy, US, to tackle terror: BJP to govt-India-The Times of India

"Stop running to mummy, US, to tackle terror: BJP to govt

NEW DELHI: Pledging support for a full-scale war against terror, Opposition BJP on Thursday said the government must stop “running” to Washington hoping that the US would come to its rescue in tackling Pakistan…"

Apart from Running to mommy do they have a choice…

[Navy7Army0]

Re: India and its neighbors...

you're laughing like the kid who just got caught and gets a spank - turns around and says "what me? get spanked? no he he he". within 48 hours LeT JuD kaput arrested....that's a decent constructive choice. Within 10 days UN sanction ...pretty decent and mature choice..

[Sheroz]

@Navy7Army0

how can anyone want peace with Pakistan when your primary export seems to be terrorism? Every other day some new outfit springs up spreading ak47 and jihad. Every other day for god's sake! what's the point talking peace with you when all you do is sponsor terrorism!

Do you even know what u are saying? I hope u are not drunk or something....

Care to tell us what ur agency RAW is upto??? Whoz funding these so called terrorists? Was ur agencies, police, coast guards sleeping, when the terrorists entered in mumbai? Ur so called brave commandos took 3 days to finsih off just 10 terrorists.....

I dont wanna start on this..... Neither Pakistan nor Indian are saint..... both countries have problems of their own...rather than pointing out a finger at Pakistan, have a look at in ur country first than talk about pak.....

[Dr.LuLworth]

We get the message. The neighbours are fed up... But one of the biggest problems with India's western neighbours is that they pee in their pants when asked for a direct confrontation and hide under the cloak of terrorism to prick India.

I guess more people should learn from peeing in their pants. Peeing in your pants apparently keeps a blood thirsty neighbor - three times bigger then you in size and 10 times in population - at bay in its own borders for 60 + years.

[ehtasab]

@Navy7Army0

how can anyone want peace with Pakistan when your primary export seems to be terrorism? Every other day some new outfit springs up spreading ak47 and jihad. Every other day for god’s sake! what’s the point talking peace with you when all you do is sponsor terrorism!

Are you talking about US / coalition forces here?

[simplyme]

@alig_reinvented

I guess more people should learn from peeing in their pants. Peeing in your pants apparently keeps a blood thirsty neighbor - three times bigger then you in size and 10 times in population - at bay in its own borders for 60 + years.

It helps to remember that you had something called an East Pakistan which is now no longer a part of the land of the pure.

As I have mentioned before, we need a Pakistan as a buffer against the failed state of Afghanistan.

[simplyme]

@danday_wala

Look at this post…

And how india is asking for direct confrontation:

Stop running to mummy, US, to tackle terror: BJP to govt-India-The Times of India

"Stop running to mummy, US, to tackle terror: BJP to govt

NEW DELHI: Pledging support for a full-scale war against terror, Opposition BJP on Thursday said the government must stop “running” to Washington hoping that the US would come to its rescue in tackling Pakistan…"

Asking for direct confrontation …

Laugh for all you want. Ignorance is bliss for you. Answer a simple question

Why was your country so hesitant in accepting that army regulars were involved in Kargil.
Please do not beat around the bush. Answer coherently and with logic.

[hanibal]

@firenze

Pakistan cannot expect flowerbeds to sleep on when it throws cactuses all over the ground (world).

Hint: Jihadi's !

Apparently you are talking to much about jihadies,

where were these jihadies in 2001, 2002

somehow they got a birth in 2003/4, and i think this is same time when Indian consulates poped up on Pak-Afghan Border and it is the same time when the BLA started its activities..

To me these so called jihadies were created by these Consulates and our govt then the former SSG general the great MUSHY, used it as a card to hold on to the power...

Remove the consulates, barb-wire the border ( Pak-Afghan) and there will be no jihadies in Pakistan...