So another thread is locked because people are having problem with families getting together for a meal and enjoying. Good move people.
So I am going to ask my “we should only celebrate eid or we are kaafir” kind of folks, why don’t you force the govt of Pakistan to cancel the days that I mentioned in my title from the national Holidays list. Shame on you Muslims to have parades, sing national songs and decorate your houses with paper flags on those days.
Lol, people are taking otherwise cool threads abd turning them into a ball of fire.
But even if you remove the bee jamalo tone of my post, the question in essence remains the same. I have always heard how non Islamic it is to celebrate birthdays, but never heard of any religious scholar saying that independence day or Quaid’s birthday should not be celebrated.
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the JI types ive known dont celebrate any kinda of birthdays nor take part in that celebration. same for independence day and other national holidays. some go the the length and declare that observing such occasions as 12th rai ul awwal is biddat.
I can understand the logic behind passing fatwa regarding 12th rabiul awwal. Many people practice it with the intention of getting sawaab. That is where it becomes questionable that if it had sawab in it then why prophet never asked to do it (he brought the complete deen after all, so why did he hold that important info)?
No Muslim in USA takes part in Thanksgiving or Halloween holidays with intention of sawab, and same with independence day or national day in Pakistan. So if we have objection on the former, then latter should also be open to objection.
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In your opinion, what do you think is the reason desis in US celebrate it for? Is it a cultural thing to do? peer pressure? out of boredom? or just to fit in with the goras (and kalas)
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I don’t think anyone cares to fit in here…at least not me or the people I know. Fitting in or the obsession of fitting in is for children or people who are extremely self conscious about how new these things are for them.
This is about the food.
We all lead pretty busy lives…its hard to get everyone together at the same time for anything now. The fact is, its amazing when there’s a holiday where EVERYONE is available on the same day. And, let’s be honest…the food ain’t half bad.
If people feel like they’re violating some moral code, then don’t celebrate it. Simple.
Don’t rain on anyone else’s parade or be a party pooper.
Example: if I am allergic to something and its in a particular food…I decline that dish. I don’t tell people who can easily eat that food about the perils I feel are associated with eating it for me. Simplified example but that’s how it is.
You may not like Turkey Day but doesn’t make it wrong or bad for others.
Aaliya, my guesstimate is that if the thread his dude pages then it will be locked before seeing the tenth page.
Sheeda, there is no obligation of participating in Halloween on anyone. I know plenty of gora people, especially those without kids who don’t give a damn about Halloween.
Why some desi take part in it? I think mostly for fun, but in my case, I want to raise my kids with a mindset to enjoy the best of all the cultures. If I am in China, I would take them to the Chinese New year festival. If you want to find out the religious parallel then maybe I think of the time when Hazrat Aisha wanted to watch some men who were competing in race and wrestling, and prophet let her by having her stand behind him and watch over his shoulder. It’s as harmless as that in my opinion.
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This whole idea of creating reaction threads and asking for extreme ban on everything just because someone doesn’t agree with you on one thing is getting so lame and boring.
All it takes is just** one** person, just one freaking member to say oh I don’t celebrate this and that holiday for this and that reason and the entire group of supposedly grown ups including some aunties to start throwing toys out of the prams and act as if someone’s said something so blasphemous? Really? Are you all that sensitive? Is there really such a desperate need to act oh so offended and gang up on a random isolated view point to push the situation to the point where the thread needed to be closed?
I saw the thread on thanksgiving in food section and I think I know how it started. Basically a member made a comment about how she personally thinks we should only give importance to festivals like Eid (a personal opinion - nothing really so majorly offensive), a person follows up with that post and gives a very decent reply as to how we can have bit of flexibility and fun without really crossing the line as far Islam is concerned. And that was it! To me, the point of debate just ended there. I saw absolutely no reason why 20 other members felt the need to reply to that comment and derail the thread when the post was already answered by another member. Clearly they weren’t interested in posting about the topic in hand and just wanted to fuel another controversy.
If you really can’t tolerate members expressing their opinions on an on-line forums then simply don’t open threads here. you can all have these discussions amongst each other in your whatsapp groups.