Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
what was the UCPD's account before it got trashed by the video and witnesses
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
This is from the article:
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Police officers said they determined the use of Tasers was necessary when Tabatabainejad did not do as they asked.
According to a UCPD press release, Tabatabainejad went limp and refused to exit as the officers attempted to escort him out. The release also stated Tabatabainejad "encouraged library patrons to join his resistance." At this point, the officers "deemed it necessary to use the Taser in a "drive stun' capacity."
"He wasn't cooperative; he wouldn't identify himself. He resisted the officers," Young said.
Neither the video footage nor eyewitness accounts of the events confirmed that Tabatabainejad encouraged resistance, and he repeatedly told the officers he was not fighting and would leave.
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Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
well LA area cops have shown time and time again that there is major issues there. I am not surprised by this idiotic unnecessary use of force. too bad for them that there were many witnesses and a camera around. the yahoos need to be fired.
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
Allah na karre, if it was Noor tasered, that would be the least of your worries.......
BTW I am in no agreeing what the guy did is right and I know he could have ignored the situation by either showing his ID or leaving but the cops were bigger jerks and I KNOW racism was involved, anyone saying otherwise is ignorant.
Most of the times, I singled out just like him while I am at the lib, gym, etc. I do know that its when i am breaking rules and stuff which is fine but when you are not asking other white people to show u ids then dont ask me either.
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
A few things.
Mostafa, the student, is not Muslim. He is of Baha’i faith. But his religious affliation is not the question. It could have been any of ethnic students on campus. Thats whats the student groups on campus protested about. But his atorney ofcourse knows a better course of action for him.
The officer that tasered him has been identified. He is black and has a history of abuse. He was fired by Long Beach Police Dept before he became a UCPD.
*A: In May 1990, he was accused of using his nightstick to choke someone who was hanging out on a Saturday in front of a UCLA fraternity. Kente S. Scott alleged that Duren confronted him while he was walking on the street outside the Theta Xi fraternity house.
Scott sued the university, and according to court records, UCLA officials moved to have Duren dismissed from the police force. But after an independent administrative hearing, officials overturned the dismissal, suspending him for 90 days.*
B: I*n October 2003, Duren shot and wounded a homeless man he encountered in Kerckhoff Hall. Duren chased the man into a bathroom, where they struggled and he fired two shots.
The homeless man, Willie Davis Frazier, was later convicted of assaulting an officer. Duren said Frasier had tried to grab his gun during the struggle. But Frazier’s attorney, John Raphling, said his client was mentally ill and didn’t do anything to provoke the shooting.
*Officer in Taser case identified
.*…some of which include altercations with students, the Daily Bruin reported.
According to one court complaint presented in the trial, Duren allegedly woke a student sleeping in the study hall in Kerckhoff in August 1993, escorted him outside, slammed him against a wall, and handcuffed and arrested him.
The complaint also stated that on the way to the police station, Duren told the student, “For a while there I thought I was going to have to ‘Rodney King’ you.”
In 2002, Duren had a verbal confrontation with another student, Kirk Zhong, which resulted in Zhong being arrested, according to an incident report.
Zhong said the confrontation began when he walked by two officers questioning a homeless man and they began yelling at him.
According to the report, Zhong took a combative stance against the officers by clenching his fists.
Zhong maintained the report was unfounded because he was carrying books, so he could not have clenched his fists. *
http://www.dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=39047
It would be safe to say that his career as UCPD is in limbo.
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
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GOOD. He should end up in a jail.](“http://www.dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=39047”)
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
You could have made your point without bringing a family member in the post!
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Most of the times, I singled out just like him while I am at the lib, gym, etc. I do know that its when i am breaking rules and stuff which is fine but when you are not asking other white people to show u ids then dont ask me either.
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What do you say when they card you like that? Do you tell them that they are carding you because of your skin color/hibaj etc?
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
Blacks are very gung-ho against middle-easterners these days. Do they feel they can prove to their patriotism to the society by whupping middle-easterns/muslims ?
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It would be safe to say that his career as UCPD is in limbo.
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Limbo? Society needs to put this guy away before he takes an innocent life.
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
I used to work on an on campus computer lab, students coming in without their IDs was something which happened very frequently. Even though its a lab specialists job to call the cops if someone without ID wouldnt vacate a station after being asked, but most of the time you can tell if a persons a student or hobo trying to find a warm place and sometimes watch porn on the computers...
However Ma Mooli, the person gave up his right to walk away voluntarily after the lab assistants asked him to leave and he refused, which is why the cops were called, but it was too late then. But yeah, what they did after that was a case of brutality, but the guy was also trying to be a hero and incite the crowd and quite frankly, he was asking for trouble, you just dont do that to cops, youre asking for them to show some abuse of power.
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
so at worst ..he was a college kid who was being a jerk...and in response trained policemen, upholders of law and order..abused thier power, i.e. broke the law..and were jerks in response. That says something.
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
To Fraudia bhai, were you expecting the cops to bring him samosay and chai for not leaving the building once asked?
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
the cops could have easily cuffed and carried him.
and he did get tasered after he said he would leave etc.
The repeated tasering was excessive..
abuse of power, pure and simple
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
that student barely weighed over 170, those cops could have easily picked him up and thrown him out....
i dont see why they had to taser him
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
I am surprised that UC students in general haven't taken up the cause for this student. They didn't do anything when the poor kid was being brutalized by the COPS. What a shame really!
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
cuz they are in LA, UCLA just does not have the type of student involvement like berekely or even USC.
It is a shame..
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
it is obvious that most people are unaware that taser guns operate in different modes. the mode most people associate with it is the probe mode...this was not used in this case. they are entirely different functions. the cops used drive-stun mode of the taser gun...it is specifically used for non-compliance cases.
it does not hurt much and is very brief. the kid was putting on a theatre show with his screams.
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
You mean confrontation with the police when they are subduing him? Would you have done it if you were there in the library. Imagine a brown person llike you going upto to police and saying "stop abusing your powers and tell me what brown can do for you". You would have risked being tasred yourself? The kallu officer did threaten to taser other students if they got any closer, he can be heard saying this in the video.
cuz they are in LA, UCLA just does not have the type of student involvement like berekely or even USC.
It is a shame..
Have you attended any of these schools to make this statement?
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
And it's a friggin shame that all other students stood there and watched. No one uttered a word and this is a university, a supposed bastion of free thinking and learning. You are asking me what would I have done? I'd have yelled 'bloody murder'! I'd have made sure that others did too.
I have to give it to kullay in this country: they know how to make noise. Anyone remember that drunk Rodney King? And, that murderer OJ?
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
hahaha you are talking bout rodney king? that incident would have been burried under the carpet had it not been for that famous video, believe me there are many rodney kings that have happened since that incident or before that. and also its very likely that this incident would not have gotten so much spotlight if it werent for that video either.
you would have yelled "bloody murder" yeah? w/o any fear of aiding and abetting a potential middle eastern looking brown terrorist :D
Re: Incident involving UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad (Merged)
In a library full of student? You're cognitive faculties are no better than those kullay cops. :D