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^ ofcourse human pyschology is a highly subjective thing. Every one is entitled to their views and no side is wrong.
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stop reading freud.
i have heard about him but never actually read his views.
(And the thing about a child being sexually attracted to his mother at around nursing age is a proven thing and is essential for the child's development. )
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i have heard about him but never actually read his views.
(And the thing about a child being sexually attracted to his mother at around nursing age is a proven thing and is essential for the child's development. )
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so you're saying that every baby/kid is sporting a boner when he is being breastfed? cuz if that is not happening, I would like to know how the hell does anyone know what the baby/kid is feeling, since he is 0-2 years old. (i'm not really sure when the breastfeeding stops, so I assumed 2 yrs)
Note to everyone: : And as we discuss this taboo subject, let's not get personal.
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proven?? how the hell did they manage to prove that?
Every boy?? I think Not…
Some weirdos might be, but they are in the minority…
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Things like this have happened for years, this does not make them right or morally just but I think its about time people stopped shying from it and confronted it, however the danger with this also is that by bringing it out into the public alot more we also make it socially acceptable. Like homosexuaality. Many people may think that this is an unfair comparrisaon- but both are perversions of sexual orrientation and both usually carried out between two consenting adults. In which case, how can you draw the line? Personally I think its gross and unthinkable. But in the same manner gay men would think the same about sleeping with a woman. There needs to be strict lines drawn about what can and cannot be done, especcially to protect children. We cannot dictate what adults do. And it is usually between adults. Children are usually just casulties of war along the way.
I don't think Gamma was speaking for himself, there have been many studies carried out in this field that state this. If you disagree then that is fair enough, however I doubt anyone here is fully aware of what they were feeling at that age.
I've read Seigmund Freud and I disagree with him and his theories, he basically believed that every problem could be boiled down to having something to do with sex. I think society today has become way to sexualiised, they even use a "sexy" image to sell dolls to 4yr olds. Its unnecessary and I think it is that whole idea of perverting childhood that we accosiate with relations and family that (rightly) leads to to reguard insest with discust.
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Things like this have happened for years, this does not make them right or morally just but I think its about time people stopped shying from it and confronted it, however the danger with this also is that by bringing it out into the public alot more we also make it socially acceptable. Like homosexuaality. Many people may think that this is an unfair comparrisaon- but both are perversions of sexual orrientation and both usually carried out between two consenting adults. In which case, how can you draw the line? Personally I think its gross and unthinkable. But in the same manner gay men would think the same about sleeping with a woman. There needs to be strict lines drawn about what can and cannot be done, especcially to protect children. We cannot dictate what adults do. And it is usually between adults. Children are usually just casulties of war along the way.
I don't think Gamma was speaking for himself, there have been many studies carried out in this field that state this. If you disagree then that is fair enough, however I doubt anyone here is fully aware of what they were feeling at that age.
I've read Seigmund Freud and I disagree with him and his theories, he basically believed that every problem could be boiled down to having something to do with sex. I think society today has become way to sexualiised, they even use a "sexy" image to sell dolls to 4yr olds. Its unnecessary and I think it is that whole idea of perverting childhood that we accosiate with relations and family that (rightly) leads to to reguard insest with discust.
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incest and consenting adults? can some one please explain to me what incest is?
Sexual conduct between members of immediate family.
hiccup ,
consenting or non-consenting ... BOTH.
I'm aware of that, and I think it should be treated as rape when its not consenting, however when it is consenting....and it does happen, in that case there needs to be rules in place or guidelines. I know its gross but it happens, and it needs to be dealt with. If only to protect the victims and give people some phychological help.
I think incest is rape if it is done to a child. How can you blame the child? I believe all the blame rests on the adult involved.
Fear is the primary reason why children are unable to come forward & report what happened with them. Fear of loosing honor, fear of loosing dignity.
There is a very famous desi joke about this....da 1 liner in da end goes like "Baaji darr gayen....!"
i feel, incest comes naturally to pakistanis and desis in general in MOST families the first "non sisterly/brotherly" contact one gets is through cousins. Therefore brain sometimes fails to see where the sexual "limits" are... if u know what i mean.
W:eek:W i had always thought that this is just some sort of sick fantasies in chat rooms but didnt know it actually happen in real life..
Allah aisay logoan say sab ko bachay.. thats why in islam we(girls) are supposed to do parda from our na mehram uncless..
^ so naive... so very naive
^ u talking about me gama bhia?
FRNDS ! I THINK THE SOLUTION FOR THIS VERY PROBLEM CAN BE EXTRACTED FROM ISLAM, 'CAUSE IF WE SAY ISLAM IS A CODE OF LIFE , WE SHOULD BELEIVE IN IT .
AFTER READING ALL UR REPLIES , I THINK INCEST SORT OF PROBLEMS EXIST IN SOCITIES AND THE RESON IS NOT FOLLOWING ISLAM COMPLETELY. WE GENERALLY PREACH ISLAM BUT DO NOT FOLLOW IT.
IF A MAN IS MARRIED AT THE AGE 18 AND A GIRL AT THE AGE OF 16 AS ISLAM PREACHES US, I DONT FORSEE ANY TABOOS OR INCEST CASES EXISTING IN AN ISLAMIC SOCIETY.'CAUSE THESE ALL PROBLEMS R BECAUSE OF SEXUAL FRUATRATION.
MOREOVER ITS PARENT’S DUTY NOT CLASS MATE’S TO EDUCATE A CHILD ABOUT MOLESTING PROBLEMS , AS RIGHTLY SAID BY A GUPPY.
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Interesting topic Gamma dilation,
Yes it is true in pakistan, India and desi cultures even it is unacceptable but a practice. There are even some reports by vitims themselves Who have courage to tell their stories.
yes, being religious helps a bit but being so much religious makes the feeling worse sometimes no? As we hear and read a lot about Priests who abouse a lot of their students Sexually? same goes for every religion i am not sure if my words are agains t anyone or not but i heard a lot more stories regarding more religious people involve i n this stuff such as Padriee's Molvi's, Guroo's ...etc NO offense friends. That is what I think. Extreamely relious people have more Sexual issues then others I think. Of course i could be wrong.