Incest- What is this world coming to??!!!

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Re: Incest- What is this world coming to??!!!

^ because the alleged immorality of the West is not part of Islam and cousin marriage is...

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Dude! did you not read the thread? Incest has many different meanings and scenarios. It is practiced and has been practiced by various different people from many different backgrounds.

What did you mean alleged? Even people from west condemn these practices carried out in west.

Read the thread again before making your anti-Pakistani comments.

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Good.

Both of your links did not show that the cousin marriages in encouraged in islam.

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Re: Incest- What is this world coming to??!!!

With the Holy Prophets PBUH beloved daughter Fatima married to ALi RA, I dont need to make a comment. There are already contradicting views and its too sensitive topic to talk about without indepth knowledge of the fatwas.

On an additional notes, none of the links show that cousin marriages are discouraged, in any way, in islam, be it culturally, socially or from a medical view point.

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No. Because incest has many different meanings by many different people of different background.

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Since slavery is allowed in Islam, why don't I start practicing slavery?

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when is slavery allowed in islam...and please can you post your sources,

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There are no contradicting views. Cousin marriage is allowed but not encouraged in islam. People do it for various reasons and convenience.

Agree with your second paragraph. But if it is known that there is a genetic problem in the family then a medical counseling should be done.

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I think you are one of the *biggest troll of GS.
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You keep coming with irrelevant topic and inflammatory comments!!!!!

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Never mind this dude!

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So does alleged immorality have many meanings to it. Its all about what you want to look at and point at and when.

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As I stated earlier, I wouldnt want to comment without detailed knowledge of the fatwas.

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I think it is during wartime, calling it 'slavery' is misleading tho.. hmmm, will have to look it up..

Edit '"Islam does not prohibit slavery but retains it for two reasons. The first reason is war (whether it is a civil war or a foreign war in which the captive is either killed or enslaved) provided that the war is not between Muslims against each other - it is not acceptable to enslave the violators, or the offenders, if they are Muslims. Only non-Muslim captives may be enslaved or killed. The second reason is the sexual propagation of slaves which would generate more slaves for their owner."'

The above quote is from Dr. Abdul-Latif Mushtahari of Al-Azhar University.

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Exactly.

Some people need to learn the difference between 'permitted' and actually 'encouraged.' I'd be permitted to divorce my husband if I found I was no longer attracted to him, doesn't mean it's encouraged tho, does it lol.

There won't be any reputable scholar saying it's better to marry inside the family than outside it, contrary to what that poster is trying to imply. Desi culture has a lot to answer for when it comes to misconceptions about Islam..

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I was just pointing out the stupidity of his post, chill out.

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What?

Cousin marriage is the same as a dad *ing his daughter, a son *ing his mother or a brother ****ing his sister?

Are you seriously that retarded?

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Some warlords can use fatwas declaring the other Muslim group as non-Muslim in order to legitimize their case. The Pashtun criminal Abdur Rahman Khan is notable for using this method in order to enslave the Hazarah people during the 1890's and onward.

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Well you did after all marry your own cousin so of course you're more offended overt this lol

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Islam does not encourage cousin-marriages, it simply allows it.

Islam is not the only religion which allows cousin marriage and Muslims are not the only people who practice it.

South Indian Hindus also allow and practice cousin marriage, it's just the north Indians who consider it wrong even though Krishna's sister married her cousin with Krishna's approval.

Islam

The Prophet of God (peace & blessings of God be upon him) married his cousin Zaynab (may God be pleased with her).

Hinduism

Arjuna married his first cousin Subhadra the daughter of his maternal uncle Vasudeva and sister of Sri Krishna who approved of this relation.

Judaism/Christianity

Zelophehad's daughters did as the LORD commanded Moses. Zelophehad's daughters, Mahlah, Tirzah, Hoglah, Milcah and Noah, married their cousins on their father's side. (Numbers 36: 1-11)

Milcah, one of Zelophehad's daughters, was married to her cousin Nahor. They had a grand daughter named Rebekkah. In Genesis 24:48-51, the story unfolds of how, against all odds, God's direction for her to marry her cousin's son Isaac (first cousin once removed) is made crystal clear.

Isaac and Rebekkah had two son's. Jacob was the son whom was blessed to fulfill God's prophecy that the descendant's of Abraham (Jacob's grandfather, Isaac's father) would become a great nation. Isaac instructed Jacob to marry a daughter of Rebekkah's brother. Although he immediately fell in love and became engaged to his cousin Rachel, his uncle tricked him into first marrying Rachel's sister Leah. Although God blessed Jacob greatly, Jacob suffered much grief and heartache for having married both sisters. Jacob's descendants became what is now known as the twelve tribes of Israel. (Genesis chapters 19 and 29)

In I Chronicles 23:22, Eleazar's daughters married their first cousins. Very little detail is given of this event.

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Re: Incest- What is this world coming to??!!!

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What?

Cousin marriage is the same as a dad *ing his daughter, a son *ing his mother or a brother ****ing his sister?

Are you seriously that retarded?
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Sadly, I think some people here actually are.. to even compare the two, is pathetic & pointless.