malhot do not go so far be honest and let everyone know tht nasa and highly appreciated scintist already declared tht if the sun stop shining for just 2 or 3 minutes the whole galaxy will get destroyed in seconds so wht about progressice science in coming years, can the science and the scientist get survive the galaxy if the same thing happen there is no sun and there is no sunshine and galaxy remain on its place just post your answer after reading your answer i will post my reply and let everyone know wht is the truth tht was and is and will be .....
Salam harmony peace,
Mr. Malhot will never answer well if he answers good for him and if he doesnt its not something new.
There is a difference between a miracle and magic.
I cannot say this with surety, but maybe the difference is just that a magician lets everyone know that its a trick, but a person performing the miracle hides it to fool others?
I agree that religion will always be there as long as humans are there. The way religious people are fighting today, it seems to me that it will be quite different from what it is today.
I cannot say this with surety, but maybe the difference is just that a magician lets everyone know that its a trick, but a person performing the miracle hides it to fool others?
I agree that religion will always be there as long as humans are there. The way religious people are fighting today, it seems to me that it will be quite different from what it is today.
Harmony & slave: Quranic knowledge is good, but please read this to increase your scientific knowledge on astronomy.
After that ask me a question and I hope I can answer you. PS: there are millions of ‘Suns’ in the Universe, who knows how many different species & Aliens live there.
As humans our knowledge is constantly increasing. Nothing is stagnant.
Malhot bhai thanks for the link dont jump around since you consider yourself to be really knowledgeable explain to me the creation of amino acids first this is my question i am sick and tired of asking you questions upon question now you come ahead like a stud and tell me ask me a question i have asked you now please answer, dont paste a link for heavens sake.
Well i will read the link (though i dont prefer the links coz i feel the person who gets link has no knowledge himself, i am not pointing at you but in general) and more so we have been taught all the above said stuff in schools so this is nothing new.
Moreover to increase my knowledge what i have quoted is not from the quran, so please read my posts and dont blindly assume stuff and start posting.
Overall you are just beating around the bush now let us get to the point and talk about your so called evolution theory go ahead.
Dear malhot i have read the article for your sake what information you want to convey, well it speaks about Big Bang theory and unfortunately for you its present in the Quran and proponents of Big bang theory agree that and also believe that there is a superpower who has designed all this stuff.
FYI if you read more into astronomy the space is well designed perfectly because any stuff in the space moves hither thither it will cause a catastrophy.
Example is the sun, now there is more to read about how all this stuff is well designed and are so peaceful in the sky above.
I should rephrase it. it has to do a lot with how our bio-chemical system works. you can call that your inner self.
and why should i say that. because your biochemical processes determine the way you act. as a common example, if you are producing a lot of sex hormones you will be horny all the time. if you produce more than enough endorphins then you will feel pleasure from pain.
secondly genetics have to do a lot of things with our personality. scientific studies agree that almost 50% of our personality comes from genes. I am giving you that from a book called freakonomics. if you dont believe me then you can look at the book.
so that is inner self to me.
OK! As you rephrased already, I will not continue with the inner self argument. I know about personality traits and their relationship to genes. However, are you implying that moral values are coming from our genes?
I also understand that our actions are controlled chemically on a punishment/reward based system, but how does morality jump into it. For me, as I mentioned before somewhere as well, morality is a learned behavior and not an instinctive one.
How do you get a newer Quran? I thought the Quran can never change? Isn't it the one and only Word of God, or is that the Bible? Or the Talmud? Or The Book of Mormon?
Looks like God has a few one and only words.
Perhaps it's not possible for the Quran to contradict itself, but it is possible for it to contradict science.
Peace worshipyourself
I can't let this one go. So I have to reply on this. The Qur'an is not the same as any of the other Books of God, but it does contain similar accounts and clarifications of misunderstood accounts and altered accounts. The Word of God is not one and only. It is God Who is One and Only. About the Words of God ... well I have written a poem about those based on an ayat (verse) in the Qur'an ...
....
If the Ocean were Ink
When speak the heart of things vast
On Earth the last domain that remains to be surpassed
By man, none can fathom more immense a notion
Than that calm commotion potion of the Ocean.
It’s nature replaced by Divine link to the feature of ink
As an anchor for thoughts, minds sink as they think
A stylus drawn as sword to pen the Words of your Lord
By each term minds soared, body floored until gored
Blue ink turns to red blood, whilst the gist is a hunt
Feeling the brunt, the blade goes blunt, in each shunt
In a revelation flutter, lips begin to mutter: stutter
Your Lord tells you to utter, to those minds gutter
IF THE OCEAN WERE INK WHEREWITH TO WRITE THE WORDAGE
OF HE WHOM I HOMAGE,
SOONER WOULD THE OCEAN BE TIRED; DRIED
THAN THE LEXIS OF MY LORD BE EXPIRED,
EVEN IF WE IN AID APPLIED, TO IT ANOTHER OCEAN SUPPLIED!
What wisdom is brought forth from an Ocean addition?
A great attrition to land and life’s submission
A mission to cause destruction, by the entity of life’s provision
Overload rendition; eliminating decision by mental fission.
I can't let this one go. So I have to reply on this. The Qur'an is not the same as any of the other Books of God, but it does contain similar accounts and clarifications of misunderstood accounts and altered accounts. The Word of God is not one and only. It is God Who is One and Only. About the Words of God ... well I have written a poem about those based on an ayat (verse) in the Qur'an ...
....
If the Ocean were Ink
When speak the heart of things vast
On Earth the last domain that remains to be surpassed
By man, none can fathom more immense a notion
Than that calm commotion potion of the Ocean.
It’s nature replaced by Divine link to the feature of ink
As an anchor for thoughts, minds sink as they think
A stylus drawn as sword to pen the Words of your Lord
By each term minds soared, body floored until gored
Blue ink turns to red blood, whilst the gist is a hunt
Feeling the brunt, the blade goes blunt, in each shunt
In a revelation flutter, lips begin to mutter: stutter
Your Lord tells you to utter, to those minds gutter
IF THE OCEAN WERE INK WHEREWITH TO WRITE THE WORDAGE
OF HE WHOM I HOMAGE,
SOONER WOULD THE OCEAN BE TIRED; DRIED
THAN THE LEXIS OF MY LORD BE EXPIRED,
EVEN IF WE IN AID APPLIED, TO IT ANOTHER OCEAN SUPPLIED!
What wisdom is brought forth from an Ocean addition?
A great attrition to land and life’s submission
A mission to cause destruction, by the entity of life’s provision
Overload rendition; eliminating decision by mental fission.
OK! As you rephrased already, I will not continue with the inner self argument. I know about personality traits and their relationship to genes. However, are you implying that moral values are coming from our genes?
I also understand that our actions are controlled chemically on a punishment/reward based system, but how does morality jump into it. For me, as I mentioned before somewhere as well, morality is a learned behavior and not an instinctive one.
you have expressed your opinion but you have not cited anything that would give credence to that.
anyway, it could be argued that morality is learned phenomenon. however our genes might have to do a lot with how we learn it. if a hundred people are given the same kind of education will they all turn to think the same thing? i think not. as an example i would like to cite the Pakistani system of education and our society. our education is backward and very bigoted and our culture is narrominded. yet some people who go through this educational system will turn out to be bigots, others are just liberal. and then there are some in between those two extremes. what I am trying to say is that people learn differently from their environments.
we respond to stimuli and you know that. but all of us will react to the same kind of thing differently. some laugh at the scene of a murder, others will just laugh. given the same kind of circumstances we learn different things. and learning is linked with your genes. so morality, in a way, could be linked with the genes too. otherwise we will all think and feel and act in the same way.
Do you believe the victims of the Salem witch hunt were able to miraculously fly on brooms? Do you believe that Uri Geller has miraculously found the Fountain of Youth? Do you believe that the Christian Scientists can pray away a broken bone?
If you do, you probably also believe that Jesus walked on water, Moses parted the Red Sea, and other such tales.
Take any prophet or miracle worker, or psychic or whoever claims to have supernatural powers, place them in a completely empty, unrigged room and then let’s see them perform miracles at will. It has never been done. The James ***** Foundation is offering, I think 100,000 or 1 million dollars to whoever can prove psychic or supernatural powers. No one has won the prize, because as soon as they were taken out of their church or temple or whatever, and put in a room and asked to work miracles, they couldn’t.
If I can not believe that miracle workers nowadays can perform miracles and wonders without resorting to trickery, how am I supposed to believe people who told people who told people who wrote it down in a book when they say someone did something wonderfully cool thousands of years ago?
“But, oh,” you’ll say, “We know they did it because we read it out of the Bible or the Quran. And we know the Quran can’t be wrong because it was written by God, and God can’t be wrong because it says in the Quran that God can’t be wrong.”
That’s called circular reasoning.
I can’t explain how they performed the miracles since I wasn’t watching. However, since people were especially stupid and superstitious in those times, it’s fairly easily to believe that, like most legends and fables, stories got passed around and exaggerated until you have the equivalent of Paul Bunyan running around and digging the Great Lakes.
I believe a lot of these fables began as coincidence. For example, yesterday, my wireless stopped working, just milliseconds before my hand touched the reset button, it came back on. Now, if I were a superstitious sort of fellow, I could make the utterly ridiculous claim that I have miracle powers. I could really persuade myself that that was so, and from then on, any time a coincidence or “lucky” event happens, it will fuel my belief that I somehow caused it.
Now imagine if I can get a few of my close friends to believe that I have miraculous powers. These friends tell their friends, and in order to impress their friends maybe my friends exaggerate a bit, so their friends will also believe. On and on and on it goes, until I build myself a church and start healing people who were never sick, or raising dead people who I paid to lie really still, or not even doing any of the above and simply saying that I did it, and because people want so badly to believe that I have God’s power in my hands, they accept it by blind faith.
Now suppose I die. My followers remember the wonderful things that I did, and start to write them down. They write down everything, including the innocently exaggerated stories of how I killed twenty men by looking at them. 3,000 years later, it is 5007 A.D. and someone finds my followers writings, and really likes them, and also starts to believe that it’s real and is the truth of God’s spoken word and bla bla bla bla, until we have the Church of WorshipMe, and I have become the embodiment of God come down to Earth to save mankind.
Who knows, perhaps in the future some scientist will stumble across one of these incredibly stupid Chuck Norris fan sites, and believe that Chuck Norris actually did the things his moron fans say he did. Imagine what hell would break out on Earth, if he actually started a Chuck Norris religion.
There’s an equal lack of evidence for, and an equal amount of faith required to believe, in either THEORY. I disbelieve both, and I don’t particularly care about where we came from. I was simply mentioning that he said theory as if it were a bad thing, which it isn’t.
How did Socrates think the thoughts he did? How did Da Vinci come up with the ideas that he had? How did Isaac Newton discover gravity? Was it a miracle or was it a brain? To say that God exists because people knew things 1400 years ago that we are only now discovering is ridiculous.
We now know the Earth is round. But in 330 BC, Aristotle said the Earth was round. Does that mean that Aristotle is a prophet of God? No. It means Aristotle was simply using his brain.
Worshipyourself, you have got USR wrong he is talking about the Quran if you say its not miraculous then i ask you to come up with the CHALLENGE if you can please accept it and prove it wrong.
Wrong! You are providing extraordinary claims, therefore you must provide the evidence to support them. I don't need to disprove anything.
The most acceptable definition of God that I've come across is something like "to know God is to become God". Ofcourse this may be unacceptable to all religions since it equates God to knowledge of God but to me this provides the most logical link between perception, thought, knowledge and God. I've tested this for a number of philosphic axioms and it works.
Nown if I can come up a bunch of verses for a holy book anmd some inexplicable rituals, I am sure I can start my own religion!
If man lasts another 500 years, God must provide new revelations and prophets or our intepretations must change. Our current set of holy books and/or interpretations will not suffice.
