Do you think this will cause the nutbar Islamist extremists to slightly go rabid and incandescently insane?
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Why don't somebody take full page ads in all newspapers and give the danish nutbars also all the publicity they want?
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Just curious, would the same "freedom of expressions" people be okay if anti-Danish elements had their own newspapers, or if they were given extensive coverage etc?
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In Spain, something similar happened, but this time the Spanish Royal family was insulted and the journalists fined:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/14/wspain114.xml
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Freedom of Speech ---?
At what expense?
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Just curious, would the same "freedom of expressions" people be okay if anti-Danish elements had their own newspapers, or if they were given extensive coverage etc?
great question
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Why do we care if these nut-bar journalist do not learn to respect our religion and they never will. They do it to instigate the emotions of Muslims. The kind of reaction our nut-bars manifest that fuels the lust for more thrills of these nut-bar journalists. These sadist journalists will not care if you make fun of their religion, country , president , King, queen . They have no respect for their own religion, country, president , kings and queens.
There is no way other than ignoring their lust for thrills. If there was no reaction from the Muslims then these nut-bar journalists will eventually see no value in these kinds of activities. But it is a wishful thinking on my part. Our nut-bars cannot see through these nut-bars journalists. Our nut-bars are transparent everybody can predict their behavior but these nut-bar journalists have thick skin they have no respect for any body's religion or faith. They have no respect for their own. We have no control over Muslim nut-bars and the governments of these countries have no control over their nut-bar journalists.
If all we did was silent rallies against them no , violence , no vandalism, no burning of flags or newspaper or dummies then these journalists will stop because these kind of rallies will be boring news for them and for their readers. Nahee ?
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^So you think we should let them do what they are doing, by insulting our religion? (I had stated simliar at that Salman Rushdie thread, look up!)
I promise you, next day a david star being cartoonized and mocked the whole world will denounce It. With USA of being the primary leading dissent!!!
How can you then ask us for keeping quite the way we have been the previous years and I tell you It has hurt us most.
We must fight on the verbal bases only rather than taking out the AKs and hand granades. Only then we will be heard!
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^So you think we should let them do what they are doing, by insulting our religion? (I had stated simliar at that Salman Rushdie thread, look up!) I promise you, next day a david star being cartoonized and mocked the whole world will denounce It. With USA of being the primary leading dissent!!! How can you then ask us for keeping quite the way we have been the previous years and I tell you It has hurt us most. We must fight on the verbal bases only rather than taking out the AKs and hand granades. Only then we will be heard!
Calm down man. Did I say do nothing. Yes protest , take out rallies , insult their beliefs, their leaders, their kings , their queens. But in a non vioent manner and it will have no newsworthiness for them and they will loose interest in doing anything provocative like this. Nahee ?
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Calm down man. Did I say do nothing. Yes protest , take out rallies , insult their beliefs, their leaders, their kings , their queens. But in a non vioent manner and it will have no newsworthiness for them and they will loose interest in doing anything provocative like this. Nahee ?
You mean they do It on purpose to provoke us? I believe they do It coz they themselves have no religion to follow. Most of them are atheists. You cannot convince them that easy to stop provoking us.
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You mean they do It on purpose to provoke us? I believe they do It coz they themselves have no religion to follow. Most of them are atheists. You cannot convince them that easy to stop provoking us.
Yes what else can be the motive ? I have already said they do not care for their own religion, culture, president, king, queen, and add to that parents.
They do it for the news worthiness of the violent after shocks of what they do. If those aftershocks were not violent then they will see no news worthiness in their own acts.
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^NO dear If you dont raise voices, they will keep doing It in every mag or news paper....The way they have those Jesus jokes and stuffs. (disgusting)
Now It has become normality to mention such jokes. I don't fancy such things at all.
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^NO dear If you dont raise voices, they will keep doing It in every mag or news paper....The way they have those Jesus jokes and stuffs. (disgusting) Now It has become normality to mention such jokes. I don't fancy such things at all.
Yes raise voices but it should be limited to that. If no churches are burnt or no christians are attacked then you will see that these crazy , fanatic journalists will stop.
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^Never, I dont believe In silence when there is enough prejudice against us (the race, the religion). History has proven, without fighting back there is no equality. Not for the race not for the religion.
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Prejudice goes both ways. Please don't pretend it's not actually built into the way Islam is practiced. The difference is that today for the most part Muslims are not organized, in power, educated or wealthy, so they have mostly come up on the short end of the stick. Address those issues and you won't have to resort to violent demonstrations to get your point across.
Women didn't get the right to vote and blacks didn't get equality by violent demonstrations. You have to be smart, not violent.
Fighting back by burning flags, KFCs or murdering those you disagree with isn't going to get you respect or equality. It's not going to make your religion or icons any more respected. Matter of fact it will probably just get more of these cartoons drawn.
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Prejudice goes both ways. Please don't pretend it's not actually built into the way Islam is practiced. The difference is that today for the most part Muslims are not organized, in power, educated or wealthy, so they have mostly come up on the short end of the stick. Address those issues and you won't have to resort to violent demonstrations to get your point across.
Women didn't get the right to vote and blacks didn't get equality by violent demonstrations. You have to be smart, not violent.
Fighting back by burning flags, KFCs or murdering those you disagree with isn't going to get you respect or equality. It's not going to make your religion or icons any more respected. Matter of fact it will probably just get more of these cartoons drawn.
Oh Seminole, which history are you refering to? How where black
freed from slavery in South America and/or under colonial rule in south africa? HOw did American acknowledge the black as one of them (though I still believe they dont enjoy the same rights!).
Show me how many blacks are well organized, in power, educated or wealthy..lets take the whole world as a figure.
I'm all ears.
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^NO dear If you dont raise voices, they will keep doing It in every mag or news paper....The way they have those Jesus jokes and stuffs. (disgusting) .
Denouncing and trying to kill people or burn buses are 2 entrirely diffrent things. Every person or nation has the right to denouce Danish cartoon and no one will have issue with it. Issue starts when you start hurting and threatning people.
Frankly speaking I am sick and tired of fundu muslims taking offence of any crap that is dish out anywhere in world. Best way is to ignore it and move on. By making so much of noise you have just made this cartoonist famous and also gave reason to million others to go and check out these cartoon. Same way , we made Satanic Verses a best seller. Frankly speaking it was a poorly written book and wouldnot have sold as much if there was no controversy. Salman Rushdie should thank fundus and Khomeni for this.
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^^ Exactly. Just ignore it.
By protesting like rampaging animals only shows muslims as these savage beasts who are still living in the dark ages
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Just ignore this sort of affront. Whether they do it to provoke or ito avenge.
You have to realize something. When a English teacher, a matronly woman who volunteered to come and teach kids in a backward muslim country is put in jail just because a student named a teddy bear out of love as muhamad, that to me is a worse affront than any danish cartoon is.
When that happens, the world simply gets corraboration to their view of islam being a regressive religion.
Then the Saudis punish the rape victim.
Before that somebody kills van gough.
Even here in this board, people take umbrage to Rushdie being invited to somebody"s party in India, to a reference image in wikipedia.......
The list goes on and on. if you learn to critically look at yourself there is but one conclusion - muslims by own behavior, country after country, invite derision at the least and hatred at worst.
Serious serios serious change of mindsets required