…Are the wives of the Holy Prophet :saw: considered Ahl-ul-Bait?
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The family of the Prophet. I thought a person who is more muslim than me would no that. Because according to you I'm not as muslims as you right?
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u r muslim just by name
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they are considered part of the family ofcourse, but ahl-ul-bayt for us is a specialized term restricted to that part of His family whom we believe to be purified, and part of the saqalain (the two things left by the Prophet to his Ummah)
Theres ofcourse shia references for this, its also supported by this hadees from sahih Muslim.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/031.smt.html#031.5920
This (amongst other things) was also discussed at length in this thread:
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Ravage: In the other thread, from many sources it is proven that Ahl-ul-BaiT are also the wives of the Prophet :saw:, including Bibi Ayesha 
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Where did this concept of the ‘purified’ Ahl-ul-BaiT come from?
If Hz. Ali and his offsprings were forbidden Zakat, it was because the Prophet’s Progeny is from no other source, that is why Hz. Ali was specifically mentioned…
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^ im sorry, it might be proven to your mind, probably because you belong to that school of thought. the hadees that mentions ahl e bayt as part of what the Prophet left for Muslims excludes the wives explicitly, for Sunnis and Shias. there is no dispute about that, nor is there any other sahih hadees to my knowledge that has the Prophet leaving the ahl-e-bayt for guidance, inclluding the wives.
The argument in that thread was on whether the purified ahl-e-bayt included the wives. as for the basis of purification, read the thread, its a verse from the Quran.
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To which brother Ibn Sadique replied:
ravage my friend – If we were to read from ayah 33:32 right up to 33:34 it is being addressed to the wives (raa) of the Prophet (saw).
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O Consorts of the Prophet! Ye are not like any of the (other) women: if ye do fear (Allah), be not too complacent of speech, lest one in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire: but speak ye a speech (that is) just. 33:32
And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance; and establish regular Prayer, and give regular Charity; and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you, ye members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless. 33:33
And recite what is rehearsed to you in your homes, of the Signs of Allah and His Wisdom: for Allah understands the finest mysteries and is well-acquainted (with them). 33:34**
Shias always exclude the wives (raa) of the Prophet (saw) just because just because part of ayah 33:33 changes from feminine plural to masculine plural.
In Arabic when addressing a group of people which is inclusive of both genders the masculine plural is used, I think the same in Urdu.
We, Sunnis believe that the need to use the masculine plural is to include the male members of Ahlul Bayt.
Now you have asked for it - read the following links; they give the Sunni stance on the two topics
Who are Ahl Al-Bayt? - Who are Ahl Al-Bayt
Hadith of Kisa’ - Hadith of Kisa'
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to which I replied:
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showpost.php?p=3122220&postcount=23
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when will this caste war end?
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there is no caste war bhai, its an ideological difference. call it a caste when one is born into it and can never change it however much he wants..
your repeated use of it in context of shia-sunni discussions only demonstrates your limited grasp of english.
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The word Caste is derived from the Portuguese word casta, meaning lineage, breed or race. The term "caste", when used in human culture, is usually in conjunction with the social division in Hindu society, particularly in India.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste
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a social category in which membership is fixed at birth and usually unchangeable.
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can someone tell me in layman's terms what each party is saying?
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I think opening threads on various muslim castes such as this one is as bad as being infidels. when will this caste discrimination stop!
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^ http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showpost.php?p=3322682&postcount=11
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Ahl-e-bait is the term used for family members of Holy prophet (pbuh)
in mainstream Shia ideology Ahl-e-bait are 14 in total, who are/were infallible.
Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)
Hazrat Fatima(ra)
There are 12 Noble imams (direct descendant of Hazrat Ali(ra) and Hazrat Fatima(ra) First imam is Hazrat Ali himself
Here are their names.
1. Hazrat Imam Ali Murtaza (ra)
2. Hazrat Imam Hasan (ra)
3. Hazrat Imam Husain (ra)
4. Hazrat Imam Ali Zainulabedeen (ra)
5. Hazrat Imam Muhammad Baqir (ra)
6. Hazrat Imam Jafar sadiq (ra)
7. Hazrat Imam Musa kazim (ra)
8. Hazrat Imam Ali raza (ra)
9. Hazrat Imam Muhammad Taqi (ra)
10 Hazrat Imam Ali naqi (ra)
11. Hazrat Imam Hasan Askari (ra)
12. Hazrat Imam Muhammad(known as Imam Mehdi) (ra)
According to Shia literature Imam Mehdi is son of Imam Hasan Askari, he was born in Sarman Rai (Iraq) on 15 Sha’baan 255 AH, he is alive but he will apear at a later time and will lead muslims from all over the world.
(Note: According to sunni belief Imam Mehdi is not born yet. He will be from Ahl-Bayt. His name will be same as Prophet Muhammad and he will be the leader of muslims worldover.)
(^Copied from my earlier post)
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In mainstream sunni ideology, Ahlebait are family members of Holy prophet (pbuh) which include his wives and children, but they are not considered infallible, Yet treated with highest degree of respect for their kinship with holy prophet :saw:
For sunnis Ahl-e-bayt include Prophet’s wives and family of Hazrat Ali (ra) and Hazrat Fatima(ra)
This is stated for information in good faith. No one is required to agree but these are all sacred personalities of islam and bieng a muslim we all respect them.
If some information is incorrect then please rectify it. Thanks
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These are main ideological difference. The topic is disscussed far too many times here, You may discuss it again in a civilized manner 
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^ Some more for you Code_Red
Offspring of Hz. Hassan bin Ali (ra)
Hz. Aqil bin Abi Talib (ra) and his Offspring (raa)
Ja'far bi Abi Talib (ra) and his Offspring (raa)
Hz. 'Abbas bin Abdul Mutlib (ra) and his Offspring (raa)
Hz. Bilah Habashi (ra) and Hz. Salman Al Farsi (ra) as honorary members of Ahlul Bayt as the Noble Prophet (saw) had said so.
[Brother Ravage - you owe me a reply via PM - sorry using the public forum to remind you :) ]
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^ Also Bibi Zainab and Umme Kulthum (as) and thier children. However, according to shias, these are not 'the' purified ahlulbayt mentioned in the Quran, else all syeds present to this day would be considered part of the ahlul bayt too, whereas they are not.
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Hmm I didn't know the Ahl-ul bayt were considered infallible by Shias? Infalliability is considered something more in the realm of Prophethood? ( I believe Salafis also believe the Prophet (Pbuh) was fallible?
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That's really weird. If Shias are saying that the family of the Prophet is infallible, then wouldn't they also think that the Prophet was infallible...
But then the Quran directly admonishes the Prophet not to prohibit something that is not prohibited by God...
But then again my mom is sunni and she keeps arguing with me, saying that the Prophet was never wrong...