In praise of Pakistan....An Optimistic Look (merged)

homer pointed out that I am putting pakistan down in all my posts. so I am starting this thread, just to prove him wrong. Here are some things good about pakistan:

some beautiful landscape
great mango
some of the most soulful singers/Ustaads
our only company for strange Brit legacy customs, terminology and institutions
saviour of many Indians in the UK (that’s a bit toungue in cheek but true)

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oh, here is one more -

some great fast bowlers (Imran, Shoab, Akram...) ...why the hack can't we Indians come up with such?

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good job atlantis....anyways dude di ye get my pm....if u want i can start praise for India thread also.....ok heres my 2 cents that i'll add on in this thread
1) India is a land rich in traditions and history
2) IT - India rules in IT
3) Bollywood
4) Many different languages and cultures blended within the same country
5) And ofcourse a democracy, sadly pakistan can never become a democracy

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  1. Friendly people on the whole
  2. Good legacy of culture and the arts (wish this was focused more on in gupshup than religion :frowning: )
  3. diversity of people kalay, safed, tall, short
  4. Lahorans hai allah.. :love:

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Great Quality Footballs!,

Leather Jackets to Die For!

Some real characters :D

Bvlgari Watches at knock down prices (Hmmmmm!)

K2 Trek for £180

Easy Access to China and Friendship quater(Pak/Sino Border)

Dolphins

Only place where you can eat Channa Roti near a busy road not get arrested or run over.

Kims Gun(Lahore)

Kalash Villagers

Historical Sites, Indus Civilization (Sleeping Buddah, Straving Buddah, Basking Buddah and
Wun Buddah).

Great Forts, Espically in Peshawar.

Fresh Beef, not the polythene kind you get in Sainsburys.

Custard Apple (Its a strange Fruit).

Great Textiles and Garments

Handi-crafts

Cheap Medals, Some very good ones.

Oil Paintings (Very Cheap as compared to the UK)

Horse Riding(3X cheaper then Surrey)

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Polo(X3 Cheaper then Surrey, X5 cheaper if your in the army)

(Freedom- Really, thats the best part)

The smell of the dry sand when it rains.

The sounds of the swollows in the moring, the sight of sunrise, the fall of sunset, the glare
of the moon.

Hundreds of fireflies illuminating the nights sky.

Freshly fish near hasanabdal

Yachting in Karachi

Late Nights in Lahore

Idle decedence in Islamabad

and rapturous awe in Rawalpindi.

The Rickshaw Walla :D

The Khan with the Challi(Corn on the Cob)

Eid, Pakistan Day, Basant. :)

Really cheap books if you know where to look

My pet mastiff's( breed of dog)

My old car "Had it since 1999- Old 66 Ford Mustang Mustang".

My old house.

Nala Lai(Rawalpindi) now part of baharia town and Ln7 :(, our childhood adventure spot. :D

Islamabad on any day, the fresh wind, purified by the trees. :) 35th best city to live in Asia.

Sallo's "The best stake this side of the equator".

Popeyes"Restruant- Only 1 left in murree"

Camping in Mainawali, :)

Jeep safari in Thata.

very cheap cable access (Not the illegal one :) )

Licensed Cd's from 70/120 RS, so if Linkin Park's metiora costs me £15.00 in HMV, it only
costs me £1.20 max in Pakistan and its legal from Capitol Records or Radio City, and i have
never been stopped by customs on this issue.!

If any of you own Ps2 or an Xbox, Gc whatever, then you know what to add on the List ;)

Ohh and great cricket equipment!

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Noor Jehan
http://pakistanimusic.com/playerf.php?str=724

Pathana Khan
http://pakistanimusic.com/playerf.php?str=890

Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
http://pakistanimusic.com/playerf.php?str=400

Shahid and Nzaia Hassan:
http://pakistanimusic.com/playerf.php?str=1276

Junoon
http://pakistanimusic.com/playerf.php?str=305

M.A. Jinnah
M.A.Iqbal
Liaqiat Ali Khan
Sir Syed
Justice Kiyani
Begum Jinnah

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good thread for a change guys, but try doing a bit more than just adding lists;
go abit deeper into praises and reasons and what we could do with that to improve and what we could have done using these resources in a better way...?

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only remmber one thing. "your love for anything should be for allah and your hate for anything should be for allah". that's all i have to say!

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only remmber one thing. "your love for anything should be for allah and your hate for anything should be for allah". that's all i have to say!
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I uderstand that but what does it have to do with praising a country?

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bumblebee :smiley: :k: :jhanda:

Pakistan: I love Pakistan for her land and culture and even more for for her people. I feel a connection with them, like they are MY people :smiley: Mostly Pakistanis are Muslim, warm hearted, hospitable and friendly and have good family values.

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Harris i think for improvement we must follow what the Quaid said

Unity
Faith
Honesty
Discipline

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Savior of Leg Spin, Abdul Qadir

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  1. Great food - aloo gosht, nihari, bihari kabab, many types of biriyani and much more

  2. Great hockey - one of my hockey idols - Shahbaz - need I say anything more.

  3. Great friends - my cricket and hockey buddies from college in Amreeka (and some fine women :D)

  4. Great views - K2 and the Khyber - My life's unfinished work.

  5. Great hospitality - from personal experience

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i never met a rude pakistani .

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If i could improve one thing, it would be to provide access to education, espically women, women are the beraers of children and the tutors of future leaders, train a woman so that she may train the future. Woman play a vital role in the community, and educating them could improve not only the community in which they reside but also help free them from the shackles put on them by undersighted men.

That is what the Quiad-E-Azam wanted, and if i may quote one anicdote from the great leaders history:

When he was a boy he use to play marles in the streets with his Nanji Jafar and friends at Newnham Road (karachi). One morning, when Nanji was playing in the street, Jinnah, then aged about fourteen, came up to him and said, "Dont play marbles in the dust; it spoils your clothes and dirites your hands. We must stand up and play cricket. The boys in Newnham Road were obedient : they gave up playing marbles and allowed Jinnah to lead them from the dusty street to a bright field where he brought his bat and stumps for them to use. When he sailed for England at the age of sixteen he gave his bat to Nanji Jafar his bat and said, “You will go on teaching the boys to play cricket while I am away.”

This childhood dictum survives and in appicable even today that of - 'stand up from the dust so that your clothes are unspoilt and your hands clean for the tasks that fall to them.1

1.(Bolitho,H-Jinnah Creator of Pakistan, 1954)

And to irem well said, we must work on the foundations laid by our forefathers if we are to prosper.

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Democracy would not solve Pakistan’s problem as it has in Indian. Fortunately for India, it does not have one huge ethnic group which also comprises a large majority of the population and dominates other smaller groups as is the case in Pakistan.

If Pakistan had more evenly distributed populatoin along ethnic lines, then democracy would have taken more concrete roots and there would not be widespread disenfrenchisement and resentment of the federal gov’t, which is exlusively identified as synonymous with the dominating ethnic group. Since elections/democracy leads to the dominant ethnic group to win elections or parties supported by them, they are able to dispense opportunities, dividened and benefits only to their ethnic brethern, a la Nawaz Sharif’s massive development schemes in Punjab, motorway, beautification of lahore, movement of industries from Karachi to Punjab and complete neglect of the rest of the country, minorities do not particularly accept the notion of democracy too readily.

So when the elections and democracy’s drumbeated as a panacea to all of Pakistan’s ills, the ethnic minorities residing in the three provinces are not particularly excited…

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stuff i love abt pakistan:

  • people are good at heart.. bahar chahe kitna bhi gali den magar dil ke saaf hain just like us indians :D

  • fooooooood.. i am a regular at the pakistani restaurant here

  • people are generally good-looking.. maybe because they are more ethnically homogeneous

  • historical sites... indus valley.. ahhhh.. i am a HUGE history buff

    • stuff that i dont know and waiting to explore.. sincerely wish ke south asia mein common travel zone hon so that indians, pakisanis, bangladeshis, srilankans and so on can freeely travel w/o need for visa shisa.. much like canam zone...:)

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very true Irem, Unity Faith Discipline would indeed prove 3 swords for us to conquer it all... its so deep...makes one wonder about how intelligent the man who coined this motto would have been...its the essence of all order. lack of it the essence of all disorder. keeping these principles close to heart is where we can begin and all else would follow.

Bumblebee, thanks for reminding us of that incident from Quaid's childhood.

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whoever made this thread a sticky - so you made it a sticky! that's good. but why did you have to monkey with the title I gave it? kids!