TS
February 3, 2011, 9:12pm
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Re: In Pakistan is Stoning Seen as an Appropriate form of Punishment?
There need to be 4 witnesses or a confession but a lot of these stonings happen without those things.. Also, sometimes it’s used when couples run away because one of them is about to be or has already been forced into marriage which obviously wouldn’t be valid Islamically anyway.. It’s disgusting that ppl get stoned (or punished in other ways) in those situations and besides running away in itself doesn’t prove the two actually had sex..
The witnesses need to have seen the actual penetration, the evidence shouldn’t be based on assumptions, hearsay or gossip.. there’s even an Islamic punishment for those who make these sorts of accusations without proof but funny that goes out the window:
**‘**And those who accuse honorable women but bring not four witnesses, scourge them (with) 80 stripes and never (afterward) accept their testimony. They indeed are evildoers ’
(An-Nur 24:4).
There have also been cases where unmarried girls have been punished after they’ve become pregnant tho of course pregnancy doesn’t always mean the sex was consensual and as a result u end up with some girls who have already been raped ending up getting lashed (or even stoned.. which isn’t even the shariah punishment for unlawful sex unless he/she’s married)
I love how the villagers doing the stoning say what these couples did is haram but in their eyes forced marriages are perfectly acceptable as is conveniently forgetting about the strict requirements regarding the witnesses and/or confession.. It’s more about a culture of control than following Islam properly imo..
Continuing on this information, some people think that it is ridiculous that 4 witnesses need to verify the act first hand as it would never be possible in a consensual situation.
That would mean that the harsh punishment could never really be administered. So it becomes mostly a symbolic punishment. However, the severity of the potential punishment conveys the message as to how grave this sin is.
I don’t know how this works out to convict a rapist.