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[This message has been edited by Xara (edited June 05, 2002).]
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Originally posted by Xara:
** what i was wondering if you fell in love with them and never knew they were a jew or say they never told you, what are you supposed to do about it?
slap kiss or love them?
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I would slap, kiss and then kill them in that particular order. If you however, feel comfortable kissing dead people, you can mess with the order.
peace man,
i was thinking more along the order of just forgetting all about them or something like that.....
but hey no prob if thats what you'd do only i think youve forgotten maybe thats what youde do to any jew? im talking about someone who through misguided thinking you fell in love with, and i really dont think youd do that to someone you love sincerely
Sugar, spice 'n all things nice
im in a fix!!!
is no-one gonna help me out??
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Xara,
I didn't read any of the answers here. But I was in love with a Jew girl (from Israel) ... we knew that our relationship was not going anywhere becuase of our religions ... we mutually left each other with a heavy heart ... but we didn' have a choice.
As far as falling in love is concerned u can fall in love, love doesn't care about race & religion .. but sometimes one has to make a sacrifice. So this is the case with u .... be ready that u might have to do the same.
By the way, I will never be able to forget her ... she was definately not my casual love.
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Originally posted by Najim:
**Xara,
I didn't read any of the answers here. But I was in love with a Jew girl (from Israel) ... we knew that our relationship was not going anywhere becuase of our religions ... we mutually left each other with a heavy heart ... but we didn' have a choice.
As far as falling in love is concerned u can fall in love, love doesn't care about race & religion .. but sometimes one has to make a sacrifice. So this is the case with u .... be ready that u might have to do the same.
By the way, I will never be able to forget her ... she was definately not my casual love.**
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oh thats so sad
i hope well you somehow (although impossible it may seem) meet again under different circumstances, maybe make it work Inshallah
could i ask you, what if the guy was a mix? i know it sounds strange his father a jew and mother a palestinian?
it would really hurt to just leave like that, isnt there a way you could avoid it?
Sugar, spice 'n all things nice
Xara,
Listen, this topic is not so easy .... mostly if u do something that is not accetable by both communities then it means u have to leave both communities.
If a Muslim girl marries a Jew guy then it means that the couple will not be accepted by Muslims neither Jews. If girl wants to leave her family & boy wants to leave his & live independently without meeting anyone from the families then its OK .. they should go ahead .. but again .. what if? what if the marriage doesn't work ....
There are many things u have to think. What about the children .. what would they be? Muslims or jews? Will they be accepted by the both communities etc etc? It means that either the guys has to embrace islam or the girl has to convert to Judaism ... is it possible? Too much difficulties .... because both Jews & Muslims are not accepting.
I remember when my wife converted from Christain to Muslim it was not an easy moment for her ... but she was ready to do it ... & she did it.
Sometimes you dont think only with ur emotions ... you have to think about the results & consequences.
Xara, if you are in this situation then think several times before u make any decision. I can wish you good luck.
you r very right there, many jewish women i seen are very beautiful, for iranians yes they r beautiful, cant say mach about pakis, and yeah lebanese and syrians are the best…
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Originally posted by Najim:
**Xara,
I didn't read any of the answers here. But I was in love with a Jew girl (from Israel) ... we knew that our relationship was not going anywhere becuase of our religions ... we mutually left each other with a heavy heart ... but we didn' have a choice.
As far as falling in love is concerned u can fall in love, love doesn't care about race & religion .. but sometimes one has to make a sacrifice. So this is the case with u .... be ready that u might have to do the same.
By the way, I will never be able to forget her ... she was definately not my casual love.**
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hmmmm i dont know many israeli women in foreign countries but yes the jewish women like italian and greek tend to get attarcted to males of other sociieties....this is quite common.
I think for a muslim it is important to marry a Muslim and i think if u marry non muslim then it will be matter of your children that what religon they will have, so it is better to marry a Muslim get it
I am here, i am there i am every where
Dear Xara, the answer is simple even if jews are cool people but still you should not fall in love with a jew, because i know u r a praticing muslim. girlz here are talking abt falling in love with jews , hindus etc. come on why can't they distinguish between halal and haram. muslim men are "namehram" and non mulim men are "najaiez", so one should not even think about that. How you are going to justify, What you are going to tell Allah that love is blind so i fell in love with a jew and now i seek your forgivness. If he is willing to convert to Islam, only than it would be fair. I have a relative married to a former jewish man. Now he is a praticing muslim.
you said that "what i was wondering if you fell in love with them and never knew they were a jew or say they never told you, what are you supposed to do about it?
kick them? kill them? slap kiss or love them".
How can you not know that the person is jew, mostly it is obvious to tell by their looks. They don't resemble muslims.
Don't know whether it is true or not but it is a popular saying that Moses ask God for beauty (for his people), Jesus ask for (brain)intelligence (for his people) , and Muhammad for forgivness. (hum ko fakat vaday hoor)
I'm So Miserable Without You, It's Like Having You Here.
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Thankyou for the replies and in a way you have answered many of my questions
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najim you said your christian wife converted to Islam, hhow did you persuade her? did it take you a long time? im sorry if you dont want to reply ill be finewith that
secret you cant always tell whether someone is a jew, especially if they are mixed by race
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Originally posted by Xara:
you cant always tell whether someone is a jew, especially if they are mixed by race
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You can always ask, can't you? Unless ofcourse both of you speak different languages or something.
Xara,
Well I presented the religion to her & asked her to explore before making any decisions. She started going to Mosques ... met quite a few muslims girls ... also many english converts & then made the decision.
She never told me but I think she also did it becuase she wanted my family to accept her whole heartedly as a muslim female joining the family.
I also told her that I am a muslim & I want my children to be muslims ... so we both has to be muslims ... so that children will know that religion they belong to. I mean I had to talk the whole future to her .... show her all the pros & crons .. etc etc.
In the end decision was hers.
Najim,
After reading this post, I think you have a very nice wife, you must be very proud of her.
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I understand that it must have been hard on her to make the final decision but good to know that it came from her.
Funny you bring that up, I have a friend who is a staunch Jew. We used to spend a lot of time together and I knew he liked me, but obviously nothing came of it. It's just not socially acceptable. The fact that we were friends was a big thing, considering Jewish-Muslim relations in SA.
i agree with sadia, it was sincere of you to have let her make the decision many people i know pressure the other into converting
to be honest this thread was for a very close friend of mine, the problem is at first sight i couldnt agree either about the whole marriage prospect but its obvious when someone else is in love that they could give anything and everything, that theyd move the earth if they had to do for each other
i suppose the best one can do is pray, and hope for Allah guidance in the matter
well Jazakallah for the replies and may Allah help everyone in this kind of position at present and in the future InshaAllah
Sugar, spice 'n all things nice
Again… Jewish girls are very beautiful…
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You can only paint with the colors you’re given…
…so get what you like and like what you have.
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Originally posted by secret_obsession:
**Dear Xara, the answer is simple even if jews are cool people but still you should not fall in love with a jew, because i know u r a praticing muslim. girlz here are talking abt falling in love with jews , hindus etc. come on why can't they distinguish between halal and haram. muslim men are "namehram" and non mulim men are "najaiez", so one should not even think about that. How you are going to justify, What you are going to tell Allah that love is blind so i fell in love with a jew and now i seek your forgivness. If he is willing to convert to Islam, only than it would be fair. I have a relative married to a former jewish man. Now he is a praticing muslim.
you said that "what i was wondering if you fell in love with them and never knew they were a jew or say they never told you, what are you supposed to do about it?
kick them? kill them? slap kiss or love them".
How can you not know that the person is jew, mostly it is obvious to tell by their looks. They don't resemble muslims.
Don't know whether it is true or not but it is a popular saying that Moses ask God for beauty (for his people), Jesus ask for (brain)intelligence (for his people) , and Muhammad for forgivness. (hum ko fakat vaday hoor)
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One of the most digusting and ignorant posts I've read. Congratulations.
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One of the most digusting and ignorant posts I've read. Congratulations.
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nobel, its really such a great shame you havent even the brains to change your name to gormless, yet you call yourself 'nobel'
if its so disgusting why bother sticking around?? get lost pal take your posts and your @$$ outta this thread its not meant for ppl without brains