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how do u know they were running in their chaddis?
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PCG you know anything less than a tent is a chaddi 
I dunno why a race is such a big deal, for those protesting and those running it. Does anyone have pictures of this thing? Were htey really running in shorts? And if so, why did they feel the need to wear shorts and teeshirts? Okay teeshirts I can understand, but sweatpants are good enough :k: And for thsoe who protested, even as they were wearing pants, …just… 
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i watch the news
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Right…well if it’s proven that they were in fact running in shorts, then honestly I can’t blame them for the uproar…
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Did you see pictures on the news? Were they running in shorts, or like knee high stretch pants? What exactly do we mean by “chaddi”?
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yes PCG “watch” usually implies something visual…
do i really need to explain the concept of chaddis too 
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Some interesting news, although MMA scum rerady as always to make trouble…
http://www.dawn.com/2005/04/11/top6.htm
Mini-marathon for girls held amid tight security
By Sajjad Abbas Niazi
SARGODHA, April 10: All-girl mini-marathon went ahead here on Sunday but within the boundary walls of a college and amid tight security.
The Post-Graduate College for Women was selected after the Gujranwala episode where asimilar event held in the open was disrupted by MMA activists.
Except the race officials, no male was allowed in to watch the sport participated by 250 girls drawn from local schools and colleges. The participation of other girls’ campuses in the district was negligible.
There were hardly any women spectators to cheer the winners probably due to the presence of a large number of MMA activists and police at Chandni Chowk, outside the venue. MMA activists, who remained around the college throughout the day to thwart any “attempt of the organizers to bring the girls out on the road”, were seen hiding clubs in some nearby shops.
The police did not object to their presence at the Channi Chowk. Some students, who seemed frightened, said the mini-marathon was a good experience but the campus was not proper venue for the race.
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Now watch all the MMA supporters ignore you cause your probably working for the govt or WORSE…
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Thank god for Anti Islamic Ahmedi conspirators, otherwise a seriously under sexed fag like you would have no place to spend his friday nights after prayers:)…
Get a life idiot…
If the MMA is to pussy to take on a bunch of “Ahmedi” run govt supported brothels in heera mundi, then what the hell are you barking in support of them for?
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posted twice:)
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You must be having a ball then!! What are you complaining about? Im sure these dancers and drinkers are a lot more interesting then your bend over buddy in your village:) So where is your MMA to clean it up butt plug?
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Despite your disclaimer thats a classic example of generalization…You should be glad you were’nt in the midst of APMSO jiyalays or you would have been privy to a lot more sinister planning…kidnap, murder, chanda collection (bhutha) and MQM’s favorite past time, tortuure…
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^ I know about that. Being in the company, one comes to know trade secrets of a lot of organizations. And I can present more examples but I think ke whoever wanted to see the point must have done successfully and whoever didnt, even thousand examples wont be enough.
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**Some interesting news, although MMA scum rerady as always to make trouble…
http://www.dawn.com/2005/04/11/top6.htm
Mini-marathon for girls held amid tight security
By Sajjad Abbas Niazi
SARGODHA, April 10: All-girl mini-marathon went ahead here on Sunday but within the boundary walls of a college and amid tight security.
The Post-Graduate College for Women was selected after the Gujranwala episode where asimilar event held in the open was disrupted by MMA activists.
Except the race officials, no male was allowed in to watch the sport participated by 250 girls drawn from local schools and colleges. The participation of other girls’ campuses in the district was negligible.
There were hardly any women spectators to cheer the winners probably due to the presence of a large number of MMA activists and police at Chandni Chowk, outside the venue. MMA activists, who remained around the college throughout the day to thwart any “attempt of the organizers to bring the girls out on the road”, were seen hiding clubs in some nearby shops.
The police did not object to their presence at the Channi Chowk. Some students, who seemed frightened, said the mini-marathon was a good experience but the campus was not proper venue for the race.**
Now who thinks MMA was justified in this protest in Sarghoda. MMA is so shameful. Cant we just dump the lot of 'em in New Delhi?
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and anyway, what is wrong w/ girls running in chaddis? Dont you know you need to let the sweat evaporate? Otherwise, you're only losing water weight.
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…interesting thing is most here on GS, talk in favor of the taliban, belongs to the western countries… Where do you live guy1 miah.
And I am sure if musharraf’s daughter wanted to run, he would have absolutely no problem. See unlike some people in this forum who’s khandan ki larki are only used for making babies and parathas, musharraf’s daughter actually made something of herself. I think she is architect or something. Also heads a cultural society in lahore me thinks. She is married to asim reza who is quite the talented guy himself. I know this fact would shock some people in this forum since all of their family girls are 300 pound paratha making baby machines and thinks that is the only role for a paki girl.
Can’t say anything about elahi, don’t know much about him.
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Hahaha, what do the students think is a better place, Bandar road through Saddar?
Back to the topic, MMA are idiots if they think the biggest problem this country has are some burger girls who need to run around Pakistan to feel good about themselves. MMA should try concentrating on problems and issues more relevant to the common man instead of wasting people’s time and money on petty strikes. But they do reserve the right to protest, peacefully. Supposed to be a free country, right? They are entitled to, however, only that and anything violent or blatantly against govt rules is transgression.
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Irem,
I know plenty of the taliban to know they can hardly be called muslims. and i know they don't have any more power. :D
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Report in The Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pakistan/Story/0,2763,1457570,00.html?gusrc=rss
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[font=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Declan Walsh in Islamabad
[font=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Tuesday April 12, 2005
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Guardian
[font=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Placard-waving women protesting against the “Talibanisation” of Pakistan demonstrated outside the national parliament yesterday after a mob attacked female runners. The attack has spurred worries about the growing influence of Islamic extremists.
**A week ago baton-wielding men threw petrol bombs and torched vehicles at a mini-marathon in Gujranwala, 135 miles south of Islamabad. The race - one of the first to allow female participation - ended with police firing tear gas and making more than 50 arrests. **
The threat of further violence forced the cancellation of other mini-marathons at the weekend in a direct challenge to President Pervez Musharraf’s policy of “enlightened moderation”.
“This has got to stop,” said a protester, Aisha Shaukat, outside parliament yesterday. “These mullahs want us to just stay home, have children and God knows what else.” She stood before a placard that read: “The obscenity is in your mind.”
Others handed out leaflets saying: “We the citizens condemn this Talibanisation”. Newspaper columnists and other critics have made frequent comparisons between the social agenda of Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA), a powerful alliance of Islamic political parties spearheading the rise of the religious right in Pakistan, and the Taliban.
The Gujranwala race was attacked by supporters of the MMA. Since gaining control of the provincial government in North West Frontier Province two years ago, the MMA has banned music and dancing in public, torn down advertising billboards featuring women, and introduced gender segregation on college campuses. More recently they shifted their conservative crusade to the relatively liberal Punjab province.
“Marathons are not objectionable - as long as the menfolk and womenfolk run separately,” said Syed Munawar Hassan, a senior MMA leader. “Every society is not an American or western society. We have our own package of values.”
President Musharraf’s government, which was once aligned with the MMA, has resisted its campaign. In February a court dismissed an attempt by religious leaders to get a ban on Basant, Lahore’s weekend carnival of kite-flying and parties.
But the mullahs have scored victories, most significantly forcing the government to reverse its decision to eliminate a column indicating religious belief from the national passport.
Then last weekend a women’s mini-marathon took place in Punjab - in a walled government compound. The men’s race took place outside.
“It is a battle of ideas and the fundamentalists are winning,” said Talat Masood, a retired army officer and political analyst. “They can get away with anything. The government has no spine.” Zilla Huma, a woman parliamentarian who ran in the Gujranwala race, said the mob had been bussed in. “Local people condemned their actions,” she said.
Punjab province will host another 29 mini-marathons, some over the coming week, said the provincial sports minister Naeemullah Kahn Shahani yesterday. But women will have to run separately from men and off the main road.
The Islamists’ fury is thought to have been sparked by a full marathon in Lahore last December in which men and women ran together for the first time. "They think we run in knickers and shorts and tracksuits. said Mrs Huma. “But we wear traditional dress, including shalwar kameez and a dupatta [headscarf].”
President Musharraf has toured the country preaching “enlightened moderation”, but critics say his speeches are just talk, a sop to western opinion.
Yesterday police broke up the small demonstration outside parliament, citing security regulations.
“We know what enlightened moderation should be,” said Aisha Shaukat as three male activists were arrested. “When the MMA flings petrol bombs on the streets, they throw them in the slammer, not us.” [font=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2005 Pakistan was created by M.A. Jinnah, a secularist who belived in democracy in its true spirit, not the one which these crazy mma wallas want to impose…
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Look, women are not supposed to run marathons and play sports and read or write or go on the internet or lead prayers or wear babydoll t-shirts or have a glass of wine or work or have help around the house or have male friends or marry someone other than their cousin with one kancha and a clubbed foot. Why can’t you people just accept what God wants.