Imran refuses to attend APC on terror

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**Imran refuses to attend APC on terror
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LAHORE (Dunya News) - Addressing a press conference here on Sunday, Chairman Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf termed the proposed All Parties Conference (APC) as a futile exercise, and refused to take part in it.

“Earlier APC held for devising a national policy to counter terrorism was of no consequence,” he said.

However, Imran said he would like to have a one-to-one talk with COAS and PM Nawaz Sharif on the terrorism issue.

About drone attacks he said Pervaiz Musharraf had admitted that these attacks were executed with the consent of Pakistan government.

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It is very important for the military establishment to come out clean on the subject of a national strategy to deal with the issue, be it use of force or table talk. Right now it just wishes to hide behind the failures of the political leadership to forge a consensus. IK is perfectly right when he says that advantages, disadvantages, pluses and negatives that the military carries should be put on the table, instead of arranging yet another national debate competition in the name of APC.

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yr itni koi bri film h na IK jis ki koi hud ni … :rotfl:

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pta tha na ab rah-e-farar tau h ni … mujh pe bhi **zimadari **aye gi jo policy approve hui

secondly** drone roko** aur negotiations kro … is ke ilawa koi** point** tau h ni PTI k pas …

wha jb DG ISI ne videos dkhani thi** Al-Qaeda** ke tmam members ki jo wha h … tau inki haath m a jani thi … apno se negotiations kro baat cheet kro… pta ni jo puri dunya se a ke yha mre hue h Arab aur** Central Asia** se … wo apne kha se ho gye … :confused:

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If you don’t mind I will be blunt with you. Your leader’s promises are promises of a whore. He just broke promise of not to make alliance with mqm in future. But he did it. Who will believe in what your whore leader is saying any more? Actually IK should have boycotted the presidential elections too after alleging mass rigging done by your party in Punjab under the leadership of little Hitler, the title given by none other but one of ex- PML(N) leader.

And I am no fan of IK either.

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mass rigging :hehe:

hr haarne wala yhi khta h … hazrat sb tau sherwani silwa ke bethe hue thae jo phni thi PM of Pakistan ka oath lete hue … :smokin:

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So what is new about this? Every one who contest elections, dream of this. aap ke leader kitni sherwaanian bana chukay hain?

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aur NS ne sherwani banwayee hi nahi, bechara shalwar qameez pehna phirta hay ghareeb aadmi, jahaaz mai beth ke dunya ke saamnay apna naara bandhta hay :hehe:

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Sehrai Parindey (desert bird](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/members/desert-bird.html)), is sawaal ka koi jawab? :@:

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hansnay ki bajai sharmindagi ki baat hai but noon league mei tu sharm o haya sub khatm hai

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Lulz at at some bashing IK on not attending APC

Do you even know what happened always when APC is been called ?? NOTHING

Ganjas are one piece of crap

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How to trust someone who slept with LeJ in every Kamasutra position in last 5 years on curbing terrorism?

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aur desert bird ki dum daba ker iss thread se parwaz :hehe:

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Its govt's job to create policy, which they say they are working on. Its very slow, yes, no doubt about that. but once policy is there, it has to be presented to all parties, APC or no APC. refusing to attend APC will be IK's another mistake... why give govt more chances to delay things? isn't it mukmuka by PTI's own standards? what will stop anyone calling it a mukmuka with army to delay policy making by govt and give military chance to advance their own policy?
if he had to refuse attending APC, why he first nominated his party members to do that on his behalf when he was in UK?
if he had to refuse attending APC, why he didn't question Khattak who wrote letter a month ago to N$ to arrange APC?
and to be honest, IK alone cannot demand a closed door meeting with Army top brass, he simply doesn't have credentials to do that. if there has to be a meeting like that, attendees must include all CMs, and opposition leader in National Assembly. If head of a political party has to attend it (that is IK, he's no CM and no Opposition leader in NA) what how can one deny attendance to the heads of other political parties? by what standard? if IK wants to attend, then Zardari (head of PPP), munawar hassan (head of JI), Altaf Hussain or his representative (head of MQM), Mahmood Achakzai (head of PKMAP) they should all attend, all these parties are in National Assembly. and then it will make that meeting APC automatically.

to me this stance of IK is more like na khelunga na khelnay dunga...

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This dude scares me. He is too much of man for the country which he lives in.
People in pakistan dont like it too much.

May allah protect him.

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I agree. Imran is playing either my way or high way politics which once again doesn't look good.

Regardless of the fact how useless ACP has been in the past, it is still a democratic procedure to deal with terrorism. All parties must attend to to show solidarity and reach some kind of consensus. Every little effort must be made, every platform must be tried to combat terrorism. Boycotting something symbolically quite significant doesn't send out a good message.

If PTI strongly feels that APC doesn't stand for anything, then the best way is still to attend the meeting and then tell the public look this is the meeting we attended, this is what they all decided but such and such thing hasn't been implemented or won't work so the xyz is the alternative PTI is putting forward.

In regards to military coming forward to help civilian government to cope with the threat, that's very much part of IK's wishful thinking. If army was remotely sincere with people of Pakistan, by now they would've paid heed to PTI's request to debrief a totally new and inexperienced government over security situation in the KPK. Neither army has any solution to deal with this menace nor they have any desire to assist those who may want to have a go fixing it.

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There are few things on this issue that I can think of.

1) how many APCs on this matter have been held before and what were their results?

2) there would be many aspects of the war on terror that the army might not want to disclose in front of all party leaders

3) according to Imran he wants to understand the situation that's why he wants to meet the coas directly as that would help to iron out a policy. No time for gimmicks now, work something practical. How ever I believe that there should be more people in that meeting.

4) if the government is adamant on conducting an APC, he should (I am sure he would) send his party's delegation there. At the moment he himself is refusing to attend the conference as he believes its a futile exercise.

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The thing is, in a country like Pakistan asking COAS to hold a meeting with civilian representative is a big ask. This is something that won't take place because someone like Imran said so. Therefore it is essential that PTI follows an existing procedure and at the same time continues to push for an advance step. What if COAS doesn't give a toss about IK request for another six months? What will he do then? Can Pakistan really afford to waste time in a hope that one day maybe a mighty general may decide to co-operate with civilian government?

APC hasn't worked in the past but it must still be given a chance under the new government.

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it looks like ego problem, or he just doesn't want to take the responsibility. last month before heading to UK he had a meeting with provincial representatives of law enforcement agencies in KP, who briefed him on the security situation in the province. also now after getting access to official record of KP govt, i'm sure situation is becoming more clear to him that its not as easy as it looked from outside, and he's afraid to take a stand.

US is leaving afghanistan, fast... after that if Afghan Taliban do not accommodate TTP (which they will not) this group will further burst into pieces. then only way would be to hit them hard. this will be 180 degree opposite to IK's declared stance of no military action inside pakistan, i think thats the reason he doesn't want to be part of the national policy making. he can nominate provincial team to attend the APC, and later easily say that i didn't want to interfere in provincial govt's decision and they did what they thought was right, and after all it was federal govt's responsibility to make the national policy and implement it.

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As far as I remember, all parties reach broad based consensus on almost every issue discussed in the past APCs. Let the govt act on those recommendations first. APCs are called only when there is a disagreement between parties, and gaps need to be bridged. For now, there is no major disagreement. Everyone agrees drones should stop. Everyone agrees terrorists should be dealt with. APCs will not determine how they will be dealt with. They will just determine neutral stuff.

Imran's call for a meeting with COAS is logical, because KPK is the hub of terrorism, and the party needs to know what deals army or govt has in place, and why they are not acting the way they should be. Why there is no intelligence sharing with KPK police and what practical steps need to be taken to root out this menace.

On a final note, once the US leaves Afghanistan, Taliban will be back in power. How long do you think it will take them to uproot Karzai and his idiots? US was never able to defeat the taliban. Karzai doesnt stand a chance either.

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It’s a fair assessment :k: