Re: Imran arrested after stand-off with Jamaat-e-Islami students
Brother, that is what students of IJT did, they worked to not discriminate between people. They do not want to discriminate between different persons visiting the university to give speeches or start protest against the state. According to law of Pakistan (rather law in many countries), no one can enter university to gather student to start agitation against the state or give speeches without been invited by representative of University. Not even police can enter university without permission, how can individuals who have nothing to do with university can be allowed to do that.
Imran did not take permission from authorities in University (Student union and VC needed to get consulted and made to agree before he visits). What you want? If you think that Imran should have been allowed, than first work to get the law change, so that anyone … ayera, gayera, naththo, khera … goes to University without discussing their visit and purpose of their visit, and taking permission from anyone, give speeches and try to get students agitated in University against authorities or state, than if that happens, than if anyone is not allowed, then complain, else one should not complain against what IJT did.
Re: Imran arrested after stand-off with Jamaat-e-Islami students
Brother, that is what students of IJT did, they worked to not discriminate between people. They do not want to discriminate between different persons visiting the university to give speeches or start protest against the state. According to law of Pakistan (rather law in many countries), no one can enter university to gather student to start agitation against the state or give speeches without been invited by representative of University. Not even police can enter university without permission, how can individuals who have nothing to do with university can be allowed to do that.
Imran did not take permission from authorities in University (Student union and VC needed to get consulted and made to agree before he visits). What you want? If you think that Imran should have been allowed, than first work to get the law change, so that anyone ... ayera, gayera, naththo, khera ... goes to University without discussing their visit and purpose of their visit, and taking permission from anyone, give speeches and try to get students agitated in University against authorities or state, than if that happens, than if anyone is not allowed, then complain, else one should not complain against what IJT did.
Re: Imran arrested after stand-off with Jamaat-e-Islami students
Brother, that is what students of IJT did, they worked to not discriminate between people. They do not want to discriminate between different persons visiting the university to give speeches or start protest against the state. According to law of Pakistan (rather law in many countries), no one can enter university to gather student to start agitation against the state or give speeches without been invited by representative of University. Not even police can enter university without permission, how can individuals who have nothing to do with university can be allowed to do that.
you are implying as if Jamatis were trying to follow the law when they were trying to secure their "ruled" area, they could've simply refused Imran Khan to come in and let him go but they locked him in a room... they had their own vested interests.
Re: Imran arrested after stand-off with Jamaat-e-Islami students
Was it not duty of Imran to follow the laws and rule, and discuss his visit with IJT and University authorities, tell them his purposes, take their permission and then go to University? What Imran wanted to teach students, to be law breaking students? He wanted to break the laws of the country as well as laws governing the University, than wanted that all students should have joined him in not only breaking the law of the country, do agitation against the state, and most of all, break University rules too, and after trying to do all that, he do not want or expected that anything should get done against him?
What a farce thing to imagine. Brothers, please be logical. What Imran (or anyone) has to do with that university and by whose permission he went to that university to address student there and make them do agitation against the state?
It was duty of University and Student Union to make sure that students do not involve in such agiation, that could have caused even for university to shut down. But main thing is that, regardless of the consequence, Imran did not even take any permission from University authorities (Student Union and Academic Authorities) to go to University for address and lead students against the state for agitation.
Re: Imran arrested after stand-off with Jamaat-e-Islami students
^ and Musharaf has the right to break any law.
No, Musharraf also do not have any right to break the laws, but today Musharraf is President of Pakistan, elected by Pakistani parliament with more than 50 percent of the NA members vote, so what you want? :)
If Imran gets votes from more than 50 percent of NA parliamentarians, he could become President too. But as far as Imran is concern, I don't think that he could get even more votes than what Wajjih-uddin got.
Re: Imran arrested after stand-off with Jamaat-e-Islami students
Brother, that is what students of IJT did, they worked to not discriminate between people. They do not want to discriminate between different persons visiting the university to give speeches or start protest against the state. According to law of Pakistan (rather law in many countries), no one can enter university to gather student to start agitation against the state or give speeches without been invited by representative of University. Not even police can enter university without permission, how can individuals who have nothing to do with university can be allowed to do that.
Imran did not take permission from authorities in University (Student union and VC needed to get consulted and made to agree before he visits). What you want? If you think that Imran should have been allowed, than first work to get the law change, so that anyone ... ayera, gayera, naththo, khera ... goes to University without discussing their visit and purpose of their visit, and taking permission from anyone, give speeches and try to get students agitated in University against authorities or state, than if that happens, than if anyone is not allowed, then complain, else one should not complain against what IJT did.
Sir, I was referring to discrimination of views and opinion. If some ones to date a gal he was haressed to the utmost. Not to speak about If they try to retaliate he was buried alive, shot in the head or dastardly beaten up badly. Are we living in stone age? I don't agree on such terms. There was no rule ever to be applied on Students to be restricted of male meeting female.
And don't come up with:
As long as they had the upper hand at PU, they protected Pak izaat of being looted.
Trust me, this was merely not the case.
I know lots of stories about them.
Hypocrites.
Re: Imran arrested after stand-off with Jamaat-e-Islami students
sa1eem: IJT (Islamic Jamiat Telly-tubbies) are affiliated with Jamat-i-Islami, so Mullah Politics already exists inside the university. Imran apparently had the approval of Qazi Hussain Ahmed of Jamat-i-Islami for the visit.
Re: Imran arrested after stand-off with Jamaat-e-Islami students
vidoes are there, if it was indeed non ijt ppl, the university would figure it out.
although back in the day IJT used to get support from local madrissas and all so at their ghunda gardee others showed up too.
Re: Imran arrested after stand-off with Jamaat-e-Islami students
You are right, Imran got bruised. He got mishandled. IJT students gave him lot of thappar and thuddas. All what happened is deplorable.
But on the other hand, one have to realise that Qazi himself needs permission and invitations if he decides to go to University for any speech. What authority Qazi has to give permission to anyone. Imran did wrong and one has to accept that. Though not knowing is not an excuse, still Imran wants to be in politics and still behaved as illiterate person, that he went to University without permission or invitation.
What Imran did was wrong and he deserves every bit of what happened to him, though one can say that IJT should have been considerate and should not have mishandled Imran.
Re: Imran arrested after stand-off with Jamaat-e-Islami students
Santa Claus Hussain should be stoned in public [his own favored way meting out punishment i believe] for his antics...and then they have the gall to declare people kaafirs when they themselves are the kings of all backstabbers...what a state of affairs!
These Islamic Student Unions should be declared illegal and the culprits who this to Imran should be sent to jail for life. If not anything else, he is a philanthropist and a national cricket hero who deserves to be respected by all...is this how we treat the people who bring Pakistan a good name??? Deplorable, totally deplorable. Imran should quit Pakistan and send laanat to all Pakistanis who just watch this ghundagardi happening on the sidelines.
Re: Imran arrested after stand-off with Jamaat-e-Islami students
the impression I got was he was welcomed by the students at the university, only a certain militant faction of this IJT with their own agenda manhandled and pushed and shoved him out of the crowd and held him hostage, even during the hostage (1 hr period), opposing groups were chanting slogans agains eachother
He can be seen here being carried by his supporters:
Re: Imran arrested after stand-off with Jamaat-e-Islami students
Imran appany ghuntnoo main muuu daal kay roo raha ho ga, kay main nay politics kion shrooo keee. Abhi bhi waqat hai iss kay passs kay ya politics ko atleast 5 years kay liya choor daay AL-GORE kii tarahn. Ya next pm bhoot bai majority kay sath baann sakhta hai.
parrot never stops