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altaf is a moron and all that, no douybt about it.
but lets not make imran into an angel, his past is very well known..maybe more so by asians in Uk than Pakistanis in Pakistan. I have not bothered to click on the link.
The proof of Imran's indiscretions is present in the form of a daughter born out of wedlock..
sincere person, great athelete and all sure, but a perfect human being...not really
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altaf is a moron and all that, no douybt about it.
but lets not make imran into an angel, his past is very well known..maybe more so by asians in Uk than Pakistanis in Pakistan. I have not bothered to click on the link.
The proof of Imran's indiscretions is present in the form of a daughter born out of wedlock..
sincere person, great athelete and all sure, but a perfect human being...not really
Yeah, but that being used against him by a party that is guilty of a far more evil and heinous crime, is down right disgusting...
For all his evils, he wasnt responsible for the cold blooded murder of god only knows how many people.
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altaf is a jackass of a completely different level.
but lets not give Imran a carte blanche because he is going after altaf.
it does not matter who says it, if its true,... its wrong.
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oh he himself said "I never said I am angel"... and ofcourse he had a play boy past but he isn't the same imran anymore.
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altaf is a jackass of a completely different level.
but lets not give Imran a carte blanche because he is going after altaf.
it does not matter who says it, if its true,... its wrong.
Yeah but the point is whatever Imran Khan was allegedly doing in the 80s, that did not affect the public one iota apart from giving mirch masala to tabloids nor did it affect his ability to lead Pakistan cricket team with distinction. Besides that's a personal matter between him and God. His situation is being exploited because Tyrian's case came out in the open. How do we know for sure that other politicians (given the feudal past of many) of our country Musharraf included have also not had adulterous affairs in the past?
What Altaf and our corrupt leaders do day in and day out does affect the poor of our country
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but surely not on this scale. This is pornography 
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This thread has given lots publicity to the dirty rag websites and allegations. As usual for pakistan it's lose lose. F true, then there goes one more so called savior down tube. If untrue by all this publicity he loses support anyway
Losing support?
He is gaining support by the day.
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oh he himself said "I never said I am angle"... and ofcourse he had a play boy past but he isn't the same imran anymore.
'angle' toh kher woh kabhi bhi naheen tha :D
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Yeah but the point is whatever Imran Khan was allegedly doing in the 80s did not affect the public one iota apart from giving mirch masala to tabloids nor did it affect his ability to lead Pakistan cricket team with distinction. Besides that's a personal matter between him and God. His situation is being exploited because Tyrian's case came out in the open. How do we no for sure that other politicians (given the feudal past of many) of our country Musharraf included have not had adulterous affairs in the past?
What Altaf and our corrupt leaders do day in and day out does affects the poor of our country
Does not matter.
secondly is it a personal matter between him and god per the laws of Pakistan? I dont think so.
and we dont know if other politicians have not had affairs, we have heard about some of sandwich sami and some of altaf husseins alleged affairs. And if they are true they need to get punishment for that too.
Imran's ability to lead is not impacted by this, I agree, but he needs to fess up, and if by laws of Pakisan there is a punishment for it, he needs to accept that and that punishment should be given.
I have already said that while I am very disappointed in the lack of concrete plans from Imran, I would still vote for him because to me his the most honest of the bunch and sincere. To me though, the issue is that if I am supporting this guy for his integrity and honesty, then this is an area that he needs to demonstrate his integrity. The day he openly accepts this without playing around with words, and the day he accepts the punishment for this, will be the day I will stop from ever brining this up again.
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Ah the stories that can be told…but I am no tabloid hack
By Anjum Niaz
The media brouhaha began with Ayub Diaries. The field marshal has a field day trashing General Yahya Khan and Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto (ZAB) on the pages of his diary. Ayub’s indiscretions never invited gossip, but those of us living in the outer stratosphere of the President’s House in Pindi, saw one or two butterflies flit around Ayub with their husbands in tow. Remember Christine Keeler of the Profumo affair? General Joe (Yusuf), our envoy to UK, took the visiting president Ayub Khan to a pool party (are pools a turn on?) at Cliveden in July of 1961 where Keeler and John Profumo, a cabinet minister, ended up in a sex romp. When the story broke and the guest list spilled, our embassy in London fretted to fend the paparazzi off Ayub’s back.
Ali Yahya, 61, and the only son of General Yahya Khan is red (literally) with rage at the abuse heaped on his father after the launch of Ayub Diaries. In his rapid style of ire, he tells me stories of Ayub and Bhutto that need heavy censoring. Some of the women associated with ZAB are still alive. Ali roundly blames ZAB for providing these women to his father when General Yahya ruled and ZAB would butter him. “My father was human; he couldn’t resist being seduced by Mrs (so&so). The same women were then offered to me by him (ZAB)”. Ali and his father’s social diaries can cover volumes should any author be interested in the seamy side of politics and willing to spend hours in Ali’s smoke-filled tiny study where walls shine with Yahya’s war medals and sepia photos of splendour of the hour.
Brigadiers and generals would “drop their wives at the President’s House saying they’d pick them up later.” Ali remembers his father saying: “I will never promote these shameless husbands. If these men can’t take care of their wives, how can they take care of the army?” But Yahya Khan too failed to “take care” of his country, so busy was he with women and wine.
Ali admits to defending something that is “indefensible.” He acknowledges his father’s carnal desires but what he’s not willing to accept is that Yahya Khan was responsible for the break-up of Pakistan. “That ‘honour’ goes singularly to Bhutto (whom he despises).” The next hour is spent on how ZAB, who according to Ali, was drunk with power and whiskey, manoeuvred Yahya’s ouster with the help of General Gul Hassan and Air Marshal Rahim – “another drunk”; got Ali sacked from his job; wreaked vengeance by keeping Yahya a captive till his death, depriving him of his pension and lands.
“He’s the same man who wormed his way to my wedding in October of 1971 and brought along a begum (I can’t name the begum as she’s still alive) to seduce my father.”
Le Figaro, the leading French daily, wrote of 1971 debacle “Pakistan is a country which is ruled by pimps and prostitutes after dusk.”
Muzaffar Abbas, president Farooq Leghari’s media guru and an “adopted son” of Yahya Khan chips in: “I know things that even the son (Ali) doesn’t know.” He shows me citations for Hilal-e-Jurat awarded to both Ayub (1948-50) and Yahya (1965). Yahya scores over Ayub. Commanding Akhnoor, Jaurian and Chamb sector during 1965 war, Yahya is praised for his “persistent boldness, determination and devotion to duty.” As C-in- C Yahya modernised and revved up the Pakistan Army, a fact none can deny.
The writer is a freelance journalist with over twenty years of experience in national and international reporting. Email: [email protected]
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Defenders of auntie shamim the whore...the member of the supposed liberal vanguard headed by their co-ethnist numero uno enlightened moderate Mush, is'nt it rather ironic that MQM and their supporters, and I mean both the open variety and the closet sub-conscious kind, are using morality and religion to go after their opponents...
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I dont really recall MQM defending this shamim lady. this was an islamabad issue and MQM for the most part do their business in Karachi.
just because Imran is going after altaf, does it mean he is not answerable for his own misdeeds?
If he does not address thsi head on, it will always be weighing on him politically, nawaz used it against him, the Mullahs used it against him, and there is no guarantee that they will not use it against him .
It is however interesting that the rabid mullahs and taleban of Pakistan seem to have taken a back seat on this topic, and just because their interests match those of Imran, have decided that Zina is no longer a shariah issue.
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HAHAHAHAH fuunny
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I'd rather have a "lover" for a Pakistani leader rather than a "murderer" or "thief".
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hey man, I am all for it. the murderers and thief bhagoray dont get my vote, niether do the thekaydaars of islaam.
in the end I would rather have someone competent regardless of political views and personal vices. Someone who can deliver real results.
That makes the choice rather simple
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sins which are committed in privacy should not be exposed, I am pretty sure that 75% of MNAs drink but as long as they do in the privacy of their homes it will remain between them and God. If someone commits sin openly he deserves punishment as now he is encouraging others to do the same. I think this is the rationale for 4 witnesses for the sin of zina. Imran always admits that he has committed sins and ask God's forgiveness, he hasn't raped or robbed anyone, only allah will judge whether he has truly repented or not. he is a lot better than leaders of our religious parties and political leaders who have no character. I care less what Musharraf does at home as long as he does a good job governing the country (which he has miserably failed). looking back at our history even Allama Iqbal (in his youth) and Qaid e azam were no saints. Allah will judge the imaan of a person at the time of death and He does forgive those who repent.
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but surely not on this scale. This is pornography :)
i didnt bother to go on ur given link so cant really say...b/t humans may distinguish good n bad not haywaanz.
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sins which are committed in privacy should not be exposed, I am pretty sure that 75% of MNAs drink but as long as they do in the privacy of their homes it will remain between them and God. If someone commits sin openly he deserves punishment as now he is encouraging others to do the same. I think this is the rationale for 4 witnesses for the sin of zina. Imran always admits that he has committed sins and ask God's forgiveness, he hasn't raped or robbed anyone, only allah will judge whether he has truly repented or not. he is a lot better than leaders of our religious parties and political leaders who have no character. I care less what Musharraf does at home as long as he does a good job governing the country (which he has miserably failed). looking back at our history even Allama Iqbal (in his youth) and Qaid e azam were no saints. Allah will judge the imaan of a person at the time of death and He does forgive those who repent.
dude, I am fine with that, so lets just remove the shariah laws then, cuz if stuff is between man and god, then lets just do away with this whole shariah law mess, we have seen the problem it has created in hudood ordinance.
enforce it it take it out, tis wishy washy situation is not right
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i didnt bother to go on ur given link so cant really say...b/t humans may distinguish good n bad not haywaanz.
excuse me? Imran may not be perfect as I have stated myself. But to call him a haywaan is ridiculous. After all is said and done he is a sincere person and to call him such names is not eight.
