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The best qualification Imran has is that he's disliked by MQM.
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The amount of time, Imran spent criticising jeihadi terror groups, is 0 - Zero- Naught,
compared to the time he spent criticising mqm terror.
The story of our time, is not mqm terror,
it is jeihadi terror,
and it happens every week,
everywhere
yet he is silent on that,
no word,
nothing
why?
BLA might be an Indian supported group but the people of Baluchistan have genuine problems with the central government.
Given the fact that Baluchistan has most of the natural resources in Pakistan and is the biggest energy provider, the people still live in extreme poverty there. If they are angry with the other provinces, they are justified in doing so.
You trash my village. Abduct hundreds of people. Kill my guardian (sardar) and expect me to remain voiceless? There are thousands of people from Baluchistan still ‘missing’. You replace one badmash with a bigger badmash (the army).
Imran said that taking up arms can be justified if there is not other ‘democratic alternative’ left. That’s what happened in Palestine, Afghanistan and now happening in Baluchistan. We need to address the root cause of grievances of the Baluch people rather than just go and kill all the ‘terror suspects’.
For a preview of the situation in Baluchistan you can read Higher poverty in Balochistan -DAWN - Business; February 6, 2006 .
Going into the province and actually experiencing the poverty they have might not be good for heart of ‘patiotic Pakistanis’.
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Its human nature, Expect evil from who have endured evil!
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Where can patriotic Pakistanis donate to BLA? Will PTI set up a fund for them?
i doubt if anyone has been to Balochistan here except a few people…those that have been will experience a lot of poverty…especially if they veer off the main road linked towns…
are there really 1000’s missing? where are they? what can be done to free them or find them?
i have to agree with you that imran’s comments are justified…no one should live like an exploited slave…we are all equal…but then again another poster has mentionned that imran spends no time talking about atrocities committed by so called islamic militants…
why waste all the time on criticising mqm, musharaf and not other groups who are just as bad?
he sounds like an angry young man at times
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we get it. one of you likes Altaf the other doesnt. honestly the point has been made many, many, many times.
sorry for missing this thread!
Rav: the only direct quote is the last line?
Yes. In context of defending in court two BLA terrorists accused of inciting murder in Pakistan.
Ravage the writer is the confounding variable here. Until I have heard it myself from Imran's mouth I can't be sure either way.
I find it hard to believe that the writer would make up/distort a quote taken from a court's proceedings.
if imran was to become the next leader...what exactly will his policies be?
will he be anti-american? to what extent would he change the american-pakistani relationship....?
will he ignore militant activity in nwfp and fata? only then to realise he has to keep a beard and none of that stately clonial handme down educationa nd lifestyle?
what will be his attitude towards the mqm, a party with a stranglehold on karachi.... ? would he pursue them as babur did?
Theres are lots of truths in what Imran says but does the country really need an angry "young" man leading it? or maybe thet would even do the country some good?
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I'm still looking to donate to BLA
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^^ write an email to RAW chief.
I think Imran Khan should be able to help too !!!!!!:biggthumb
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Imran is the only sincere politician we have in the country.
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imran was right in saying this and most of pakistani support him on that
Imran is the only sincere politician we have in the country.
Sincere and honest too .... and since he has expresssed his support to BLA ... though not directly .... any funds for BLA can be routed through his organsiation ...
After all he understands what the people of Baluchistan are going through ... they have been supressed for too long. He is a true patriot and does not want Baluchistan to seperate as Bangladesh did .... he wants the Pakistani establishment to work with people of Baluchistan and not against them.
imran was right in saying this and most of pakistani support him on that
We all support BLA! Marri, Bugti kadam barhaoi, hum tumharey saath hai!
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^ indeed: Balochistan Issue and MQM 2006
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Good to see MQM and PTI converging on an issue. Let's hope PPP and PML-Q/N also join the forces of truth and isolate the Jehlum run establishment.
Imran Khan’s positions are becoming worse and worse. Now he has joined Taliban in demanding imposition of Sharia. He has also criticized evolution theory as a half baked western theory!
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1100558393&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20090121
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**Imran Khan vs Charles Darwin **
By Irfan Husain
THIS year will see a large number of celebrations at campuses and scientific institutions around the world to mark the 200th year of the birth of Charles Darwin, and the 150th year of the publication of his seminal work.
Widely regarded as one of the three most influential thinkers of the 19th century, together with Freud and Marx, Darwin has had a stronger impact on our thinking than the other two giants of the era. Since its publication in 1859, his explanation of how life evolved on the planet has been subjected to rigorous criticism and analysis. Generations of scientists have tested it in the field and in the laboratory. And to date, it remains the only scientific explanation of how life on Earth has developed over the millennia.
Many religious people have viewed the Darwinian theory of evolution as an attack on their faith. Others have reconciled belief in a supernatural being controlling events in the universe with a scientific theory that pulls together a vast plethora of evidence. Whatever one’s position on the truth of Darwin’s revolutionary exposition, it would take a foolhardy person to dismiss it as a ‘half-baked theory’ as Imran Khan has done recently.
Titled Why the West craves materialism and why the East sticks to religion, the essay is dated Nov 8, 2008, and was sent to me via email by a reader. In this article, the politician and ex-cricketer describes his personal journey from the westernised, secular outlook of his youth to his present faith-based worldview.
In a sense, Imran Khan’s view of Darwin’s life work captures the essence of our backwardness. By rejecting a vast body of scientific research and analysis as ‘half-baked’, he exposes his own ignorance. He is, of course, entitled to his own opinion on any subject under the sun. But as he is a role model for many young Pakistanis, he has a duty to choose his words with greater care. He may refuse to accept the consensus behind Darwinian theory in the international scientific community, but to dismiss it out of hand risks influencing impressionable young minds into following him.
As it is, there is not a single world-class university or research institute in the Muslim world. The reason for this is not hard to find. By refusing to accept and internalise the rational method of empirical research and analysis, we discourage and suppress scientific and objective scholarship.
In Imran Khan’s mind, as in many others, reason is a western monopoly. So anyone using rational analysis as a tool is dismissed as ‘western’, a pejorative term deployed to undermine any argument. Unfortunately, this widespread trend has had profound significance over the centuries. By ceding scientific research and progress to the West, Muslims find themselves in their current predicament. By contrast, countries like China, Japan and Korea have made tremendous progress by accepting reason as the basis of their education and public discourse. So when Imran Khan says ‘the East sticks to religion’ in the title of his essay, he is effectively ignoring well over half the East.
I have long admired Imran Khan for his cricketing prowess, as well as for the fine work he has done in creating Pakistan’s first cancer hospital. So as a fan, it has saddened me to see him in the constant company of right-wingers like ex-ISI chief Hamid Gul and Qazi Hussain Ahmed, the leader of the Jamaat-i-Islami. On TV talk shows, where he is a frequent guest, he has been voicing the most extreme views. Let me hasten to say that I would defend his right to his opinions, but as a hero to millions of young Pakistanis, I would ask that these views be based on logic and facts.
Imran Khan has complained in his article that Pakistan’s secular elites do not study Islam, and hence they are seduced by ‘western’ thinking. I’m afraid this is based on the arrogant assumption that simply because people dress in a certain way, they are ignorant of their own culture, history and religion. According to him, Pakistan is polarised between this group who “react strongly to anyone trying to impose Islam on society”, and religious extremists. Personally speaking, I don’t want any belief or dogma imposed on society. As a secularist, I think everybody should be free to believe in any faith. And in the distinguished company of Mohammad Ali Jinnah, I feel that religion should have nothing to do with the business of the state.
So why is it that today, only Muslim nations seem to deny the validity of the scientific method? It is true that many evangelical Christians reject Darwinian theory as well, and push creationism as the explanation for the development of life on earth. Recently, this extreme position has been replaced by something called Intelligent Design. But among educated people, it would be difficult to find many who close their eyes to the insights contained in Darwin’s groundbreaking research, even though many of these ideas were developed by Wallace, a contemporary of Darwin’s.
In his important book Muslims and Science published nearly 20 years ago, Pervez Hoodbhoy made the point that the entire output of scientific papers written in the Muslim world every year did not equal those produced in Israel alone. This remains true two decades later. And the reason for this imbalance lies in the position reflected in Imran Khan’s views about Darwin.
If we do not encourage the young to think and reason for themselves, how can we expect them to discover anything new? The essence of scientific enquiry lies in curiosity about how the world works, how matter was formed, and how life came into being. Perhaps curiosity about the universe is what sets mankind apart from the animal kingdom.
But if, as Darwin was in the Galapagos Isles, we are struck with wonder when we see something for which we have no explanation, then we have taken a step towards discovering more about our universe, and ultimately, about ourselves.
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Is it true what Ajju has quoted above? What is the source of that news? Is he talking about same shariah as Taliban or does he differ in sharia?