Imran accuses HRCP of promoting foreign agenda

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LMAO! Let me quote you "Why don’t you try and use your brain for 2 or more seconds and figure out what the Ministry of Defence is (government) and what GHQ is (military). Once you establish the difference you’ll understand my point."

So now what is the difference Mssr. Boston?

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0_o dafuq?

Umm...why don't you scroll back up and read what I wrote.

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I did. Now read what I wrote. You being a proud medical profession with a Boston education should understand what a simple taxi driver is stating :D

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LOL @ all the irrelevent off-topic low-blow attempts. you are a lahori, i consider you a fellow darkie anyway. ;)

sure there is a kashmir genocide. just like there was a bengali genocide. and a gujarati muslim pogrom. but you right-wing nationalists will deny all this.

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Okay let’s try this again shall we.

Ministry of Defence (GOVERNMENT)

  • allocates and formulates the defence budget
  • coordinates and supervises all major government agencies and federal departments of the government relating directly to national security
  • MoD departments are: Cantonment Department (MLCD), Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), Airport Security Force (ASF), Intel Bureau (IB) and Naval Intel (NIB)](Cantonment (Pakistan) - Wikipedia)
    JSHQ (sorry not GHQ) (MILITARY)
  • concerned with defence and strategic developments
  • deals with all aspects of joint-military coordination affecting the security of the state (Army, Air Force, Navy, ISI, SSG)
  • maintains and supervises paramilitary forces and Strategic Plans Division forces

If you’re still having trouble deciphering this information I’ve given you, I’ll be happy to draw you a picture. Please don’t waste my time with silly questions like this in the future.

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Whatever makes you happy dude

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sure there is a kashmir genocide. just like there was a bengali genocide. and a gujarati muslim pogrom. but you right-wing nationalists will deny all this.
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If there was a bengali genocide, prove it. Tell Bangladesh to send its evidence to the International War Crimes court. How hard is that? :)

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oh my bad, there was no bengali genocide. anwarendra modi, jaan choro.

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Perfect. So who lost Kargil again? :hehe:

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Ask Lt Gen Kishan Pal.

Not convinced we won Kargil: Lt Gen Kishan Pal to NDTV

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LMAO! As a brilliant doctor you should be able to answer a simple question. Who lost Kargil the military or the government?

The beauty with hubris is that you always find someone smarter than you who will prove it by making an example out of you :slight_smile:

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Writing big English words doesn't necessarily make you right I hope you know. You're confusing military funding with operational structure.

Your original accusation was that the military gets the funds directly and that's wrong. The War on Terror funds goes through the Ministry of Defence which is a GOVERNMENT branch. The military is not involved in any funding whatsoever.

As for Kargil, that once again was an operational failure of the government. While its true that the JSHQ plans everything, they need confirmation from the President. Under the Article 243 of the constitution, the President of Pakistan is the Commander-in-Chief of the entire armed forces while the Chief of Army Staff (COAS) is appointed by the President with the consultation and confirmation needed from the Prime Minister. During the Kargil conflict, both Nawaz Sharif and Rafiq Tarar bowed to US pressure to stop the advance towards Kargil - plus the game played with Musharraf on his return trip from Sri Lanka didn't help matters either.

Does that answer your question?

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Actually no it doesn't. Though its good you have come down a peg or two. So lets get this straight. JSHQ planned everything. Implemented everything. Left our soldiers bodies there to rot.

But the fault is the governments? Man that US education must have been dynamite for such brilliant deductive reasoning.

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Umm yes it does. Read the Constitution instead of wasting your time on the internet all night.

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So lets get this straight. JSHQ planned everything. Implemented everything. Left our soldiers bodies there to rot.
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Who says they were left to rot? You're confusing local Mujaideen in IOK who were fighting along side the Pakistan Army in Kargil. I don't recall Havaldar Lalik Jan Shaheed or Captain Karnal Sher Khan Shaheed being "left to rot"

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But the fault is the governments? Man that US education must have been dynamite for such brilliant deductive reasoning.
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You shouldn't blame me for your lack of cognitive power to understand basic logic. I've given you some sources for you to go investigate. If you choose not to exercise that, then that's not my problem. I'd go to sleep if I were you.

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My point was NGOs have overall proved ineffective. Correct me if I'm wrong with examples of changes they brought in society.

My other point was these organisations do run on foreign funds (without saying they follow an agenda, although that is quite possible). I proved it from HRCP's own site.

Last but not the least, why should freedom to protest annoyed so called representative of freedom of speech / press and human rights. Wasn't Asma Jahangir part of protests for Kana Dajjal (aka Cheap Justice). wo kare to jehad, baqi karen to character dheela hai. so much hypocrisy? Organisations like HRCP should not comment on political matters and against political parties when they apparently are tilted towards some political parties.

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Who are you making fool. I was waiting you to read and come with remaining parts. chor apni chori nahin manta. There are hundreds method to route investments and funds.

But anyways, I have made my point that these NGOs require foreign funding and that has been proved for HRCP as well. I neither talked about foreign agenda in this thread nor I claimed to be an expert to audit their funds.

Carry on supporting these ineffective, good for nothing organisations, who think that only they are champions of human rights.

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Why Dhana Khan is angry
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Talking about Taliban
Taliban Khan is angry
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:hmmm: credit goes to dharnas :k:

Hope Shia killing will stop in Karachi after 18th October Jalsa.

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Good and back them up. Your problem is that you like a typical Pakistani refuse the trees from the forest. You make tall claims and then can’t back them up. Then you go on and use faulty math. 1/3 of the budget which is specifically focused on projects and maybe some core funding does not make it irrelevant or unable to organize itself.

You made a mistake when you said they don’t care about Pakistani issues. In 1 week there were 2 news articles in the dawn highlighting issues not related to the sit-ins but you just had to defend him right? You had to see it as conspiracy against him because no sane person would think hey…these protests mean we can’t concentrate on Polio. Nope. No smart person would think that…

:rolleyes:

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I believe in only one God unlike your several gods. From Zia to nawaz and yes also got a goddess Asma Jahangir. Keep worshiping.

If this sounds harsh to you, then stop making people God of people. You have had enough of this.