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And who catches you? Don’t care for the haters. Start by recording yourself when you read something. That way you’re gonna know what you’re doing wrong, what sounds you’re overemphasizing (hence the fakeness). Go for individual words. Listen to them on forvo.com or listen to your American friends say them. Internet is awesome resource.
And I’m writing stuff that’s not related to the thread.
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^ Do people really place such an emphasis on accent? I mean, would people actually reject an otherwise perfect proposal over the gentleman's accent? I understand that once you're married, you'll be living with that person and will be listening to them speak on a daily basis, but once you begin speaking and listening to someone on a regular basis, you become accustomed to the way they speak and no longer notice it. I don't think anyone should be anxious about not having the appropriate accent or worrying about changing their accent. In terms of speaking a language, the important thing is speaking the language correctly, intelligibly and professionally (when necessary). Accent is secondary. Also, if someone is fixated on accent to the extent that they would reject an otherwise perfect proposal, they're probably rather neurotic and you’re better off without them.
Personally, accent isn’t an issue. However, what I cannot abide is when people purposely speak English incorrectly, as in the “wasteman” or “rudeboy” accent. That simply makes a person look uneducated and vulgar and would be a definite deal breaker.
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^
Like I said. I don't really know if they're important when it comes rishtas. However, if I'm going to speak a language it should sound like I own it.
I do agree with what you said about speaking it correctly, intelligibly and professionally. And people shouldn't stop talking because they have an accent, but if they CAN improve their accent why not do it.
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^ I agree with what you're saying and agree that one should aspire to speak a language as seamlessly as possible.
What I meant to convey is that, in some cases, if you try too hard to imitate a particular accent, it may come across as unnatural and even insecure to some people, which is definitely not desirable in professional communications. I notice this quite a bit here when people from certain areas with strong regional accents, such as the scouser accent from Liverpool or the east London cockney accent, overzealously attempt to "fix" their accent and imitate Received Pronunciation (what some people refer to as the Queen's English or "posh English"). In some of these cases, the people in question would sound much more confident and professional if they spoke the way they naturally speak. To each, his own :)
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Acha jee.
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Why is it men who have to change? Fake an accent for her? What about her Urdu/Punjabi accent?
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Why is it men who have to change? Fake an accent for her? What about her Urdu/Punjabi accent?
Don't you know? English > urdu > punjabi.
Urdu/punjabi accents don't matter. Who are you going to impress with a good urdu/punjabi accent anyways?
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Exactly! Urdu/Punjabi ko Pakistan me koi ghans nahi dalta. Baqi dunya ki to chor hi dain.
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kkf 
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maaaaan, accent really isn't a big deal. I know ppl born/raised here, who still say their Vs like Ws. as long as everything eles is OK, ppl need to get over themselves!
you are wery wery write madam
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Exactly! Urdu/Punjabi ko Pakistan me koi ghans nahi dalta. Baqi dunya ki to chor hi dain.
Pakistan main rehney waalay ghaans nahi daaltey houngey, baahir rehney waalay Pakistani zarur daalte hain. Yakeen maanain.
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Pakistan main rehney waalay ghaans nahi daaltey houngey, baahir rehney waalay Pakistani zarur daalte hain. Yakeen maanain.
Hmm. Is vkey barey me me kuch nahi keh sakta. Pakistan say bahir waley ziada Pakistanion say mulaqat nahi hui.
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I fail to understand just how any guy would be ok leaving their country, family behind and moving abroad after marriage and starting from scratch?! The only answer that I can think to this question is that the guy is either a fraud, tired of his family or just too majbur and is wanting support from his wife. Now definitely none of these is a good sign or an easy situation to be in.
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Clearly, this import business isn't going to well. Pakistan has a balance of payments problem. ;)
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I agree with mamzie. Who would want to leave their parents.
I don't know. I don't think you can just draw a line and say that pakistani boys from pakistan are like this or pakistani boys abroad are like this. Har jaga har tara ke insan hote hain. I spoke to a boy in uni here who told me hos wife should be a housewife an not too modern or not too educated.
There is nothing wrong with being a housewife to give good care to your husband and kids. But the way some people see it as in not 'too educated' is ridiculous.
What i am trying to say here is that it really depends on the person.
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^ I agree! I strongly believe one doesn't get education just so that they can do a job. Education is more than that and I know I myself am not the working kind of person but I am highly inclined towards education and firmly believe it has helped me grow as a person, widen my horizons and just been a very positive influence in my life.
So yah, judging a housewife to be uneducated is as stupid as thinking that sole purpose of education is to gain a job.
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Hmm. Is vkey barey me me kuch nahi keh sakta. Pakistan say bahir waley ziada Pakistanion say mulaqat nahi hui.
Jub hou jayey tou bataiyey ga.
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I agree with Mamzie and Imaaan about the housewife bit. Being a housewife does not mean one is uneducated. It's quite possible to have a degree (or even more than one) and choose to be a housewife. There is nothing wrong in choosing to stay home and be a housewife. People should do what they like and feel comfortable with. Some people enjoy cooking, decorating, and the like and find fulfilment in that, just as some people find fulfillment in the workplace.
I also strongly agree that getting a degree is not simply about landing a job. It teaches you loads of other life skills, helps you grow as a person and widens the horizons. Many of the assignments and coursework involved in obtaining a degree are not so much about the course material and assignments themselves, but about the processes involved in completing them and teaching certain skills that are useful in life, as well as, work.
I also wanted to add, people can always alternate and do more than one thing throughout their lives. People do not have to do the same thing their entire lives. Just because a person is a housewife now, it does not mean that they must be a housewife for the rest of their lives. It's possible to be a housewife for a couple of years and then begin working, or take a couple of years off from working and be a housewife for a couple of years.
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I agree with Mamzie and Imaaan about the housewife bit. Being a housewife does not mean one is uneducated. It's quite possible to have a degree (or even more than one) and choose to be a housewife. There is nothing wrong in choosing to stay home and be a housewife. People should do what they like and feel comfortable with. Some people enjoy cooking, decorating, and the like and find fulfilment in that, just as some people find fulfillment in the workplace.
I also strongly agree that getting a degree is not simply about landing a job. It teaches you loads of other life skills, helps you grow as a person and widens the horizons. Many of the assignments and coursework involved in obtaining a degree are not so much about the course material and assignments themselves, but about the processes involved completing them and teaching certain skills that useful in life, as well as, work.
Couldn't agree more! And boys that there is a big difference is a boy saying ' Sorry but i won't let you work' and a boy that says 'Dear, I earn enough for both of us. I would love it of you take care of the household and take care of me. But if you want to work, i am fine with that. Still i prefer the first option'.
You have men in Pakistan that would say the second line and you will also have men abroad who would just say the first line to their wives.
Ok with my current experience. Im really not sure whats right and wrong and specifically thier intentions.
I got married to a student here in Australia, im an ABCD. Its nearly been a year. Alhumdulilah im very happy. My husband's family all came from pakistan and it was a big wedding! Im currently on my first visit to my inlaws. Everyone is soo nice.
But im not sure what anyones intentions are? How do I know anything, another problem is thier punjabi and I have no idea language , sometimes I get annoyed cause I have a feeling they're talking about me. Like I think once my husband said shes my golden egg. So the intentions?