Importance of virginity in major religions

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Shamraz question was regarding religion, as he asked 'why all major religions give value to virginity' and he also included Islam in major religion, mentioning about virgin birth of Isa (AS), and hoors in paradise after death. I answered him regarding Islam, refuting his assumption. Obviously, I did not touch other religion.

Actually, Allah has created man and female not to stay virgin, rather, it is Allah's design that people have sex for enjoyment and procreation. This design of Allah means that virginity is not important, nor is preferred state, neither it is divine. Only thing Allah wants is that, sex business should be within restraint of Law, so that society does not become sexually permissive society without any moral values, where many children are unaware of their father’s identity ... and also lose their legal right to inheritance, as well as recognition.

That means, Islam allow sex but it should be within legality. Islam does not believe on 2-parents family, rather in Islam one can have legal relationship and children from many women. As for children, woman gives birth but responsibility and recognition of the child is with father. This arrangement keeps unity and equality amongst siblings, as all have one father, who is their guardian, and from whom they all get their identity and recognition.

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^ Ok. Lots of it of course makes sense. I respect the religion. Hence will refrain from debating pros and cons since I am not qualified.

Enjoyed the post. Well explained, as always. Khuda Hafiz.

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You are welcome. :)

Anyhow, I do not mind you asking as many questions on Islam as you like, and obviously if I would find time for the topic, I would try to give answer to you as logically as possible (to the best of my knowledge and ability).

I know that 'subject of this thread' is nothing to do with Islam or 'WHY' Islam has such laws. But the way you wrote your post, I feel (I might be wrong, but that is what I feel) you have some concern and question in mind about Islamic rule, that you did not raised.

I can only guess your concern, and that concern could be, why Islam gives children guardianship, identity and recognition from father. If that is what is in your mind, than here is your answer (from my understanding)

Marriage: In Islam, marriage does not make man and woman part of one family, rather they become equal partners of each other in marriage relationship. As in any partnership or relationship, it can get broken and partners can go their own way. Thus, Islam allows divorce that gives man and woman way of freedom from each other, if they want to. That does not mean divorce is liked but it is acceptable. Human are born free and non-related humans bonded in partnership of marriage should not be so bonded that there is no way out if that partnership becomes burden on each other, and thus divorce is way given by Islam to come out of that partnership bond.

Family: According to Islam, family consists of only blood relationships that cannot be broken.

Being related by blood, children are part of both mother’s and father’s family. Allah could have made man or woman both guardians of children, but when divorce happens, such arrangement becomes troublesome for father, mother as well as children. So, it is best that even though children stay part of family for both mother and father, if guardianship belongs to one, child would find stability.

Now question arises that who should have legal right of guardianship (as children belongs to both mother and father).

Answer is obvious, that is father, because father can have children from many women at the same time, as well as bread winner in most cases.

Question arises again, that what difference having children from many women makes?

Here is explanation: Giving guardianship to mother means, after divorce, mother moving out with children and that in consequence would separate siblings (children of father from other wives). But if guardianship stays with father than even though mother leaves, siblings stay together under one roof.

There are other reasons too. That is, in most cases it is father from whom a child inherits most, and normally it is father who provides. So, if children move out with mother, they would lose out in many things. On the other hand, many women could get into financial and other troubles after divorce, and that could affect wellbeing of children, and it is also possible that bringing-up of children could become burden for woman. It is also a fact that it is easier for a woman to find another partner in life if she has no liabilities of children with her, so not having the burden of children's guardianship is preferable for woman too (in most cases).

Islamic laws may not look appropriate in some individual cases, but taking into account what I mentioned, it is obvious that in most cases, it is in the best interest of children (as well as mother) that guardianship stays with father … as this arrangement keeps siblings together, gives better financial security, recognition, status, and identity to children … and freedom to mother from burden of raising children.

[Nevertheless, child belongs to both parents equally, and right of mother in Islam is much more on children than right of father ... and identity of children can also come from mother, as the case is with Isa (AS) and linage of Prophet (SAW) through children of his daughter, Fatima (AS)]

Re: Importance of virginity in major religions

Thank you, Saleem. Read the post carefully. There does appear to be some structure.

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This topic is clearly a western orientated question, why would you question the religions insistence on being virgin before marriage otherwise.

In muslim countries the society and pressure it is normal for 2 virgins to marry and continue their life thereafter, in western countries it is not the norm and muslims in western countries not all but some have fallen victim to this as many live in societies which push having sex in teenage years and pressure is their for all to see from school to university.