one of the implications is that people are getting the wrong impression. the wrong impression im talking about concerns the islamic base of pakistan. islam is the ONLY influence which can limit the jahilness of the pakistani people. the whole saga has brought out many worms one of them being a wish for more western style non religious set of laws, more like amsterdam then london or tokyo.
so now im of the oppinion no pakistani government has ever had an interest in good governance. they've always just been trying to make statements of grandeur every now and then.
its imperative that the police are able to convict criminals of all kinds. its imperative that it doesnt take a madrassa to find hope of justice for rape victims. its imperative that we install a more peaceful purpose in FATA to enable the country to move on united, this will help to banish the teleban label.
if your interest is just kicking mullahs then having a non fuctional police is the best way to go forward as challengers to the role of government will be many
this reminds of the announcer at the event Musharraf was to speak at in Taxila…he went something like this:
“Aziz dosto…Pakistan mein yeh riwaayat hai kay jab bhi saddar saahb taqreer karnay aatay hain toh unki tareefon kay pull baandhay jaatay hain. Saddar Musharraf saab woh hasti hain..jinhon nay…aap dekhain..nazr dorain…apnay hamsaye mulk mein dekhain..Afghanistan ki kya haalat hai..koi law and order nahi..economy ki kya haalat hai..phir ab aap Pakistan pay nazr dorain..kitttttnnaaa sukoon hai…muaashi taraqi ki misaal nahi milti…is pay mat rukain…aap Iraq ko dekhain…kya haalat hai unki..koi rozi roti nahi..koi kuch nahi…phir aap aik nazr pakistan pay dorain…sub kuch kitna acha hai”
Not all Muslims, but the Jahil Madrassah type beardos (who claim to be the best of the best Muslims)
PADOs doing car bombings, Mullahs burning innocents, Mad-house-rassahs claiming Jihad all get proven by these Mad-house-russah documentary.
Only you are professing the link between Quran and terrorism. Documentary simply shows a link between Mad-house-russa-girs and terrorism.
So Degas please respect Quran and quit linking the holy book with terror.
Weardo beardos have killed innocent state trooper and injured the rangers. And you say it is fake. Where are you living dude? Most likely a UK aloo store I guess! Or may be in a lab run by PADOs.
It is time to quit living in terror world and become useful citizens of this beautiful world. Otherwise you all will be hunted down like other rabid Mullahs.
I beg ya pardon Sir but would you be kind enough telling me where is this pakistan as i m sick n tired of living on this self imposed exile . I want to live in yr Pakistan ! Jahan sab kuch itnaa acha hai :)
CNN has alreday started playing tune for terrosrism of muslims .. they were showing a documentry last nite about madrassas in Lahore and elsewhere where young children were memorizing Quran and linked them with terrorists.. how shamelssly they tried to show about Quran learning is linked to terrorism..This Lal Masjid fake drama is just to gain points in west for more $$$ and time..
Same madras 7/7 bomber went to. What did Ghazi do, run a madrasa by any chance?
The reporter was saying, their is a problem here. The fact you wont accept a problem in madrasa education exists is being just as medieval.
Degas, if our people and ulema would have some balls and get rid of the imposters who pose as muslims and instead teach our children to destroy property, invade homes and offices and kidnap people, and beat them if they don't follow what they think is Islam, then maybe we wouldn't have the foreign media confusing innocent kids memorizing the Quran with extremist training!
We ourselves have failed to curb the problem, to speak against it, and to clarify to people that memorizing the Quran is a totally peaceful action, and that the majority of those kids rarely end up getting in trouble later on with the law.
That Mushy is going to respond along the lines:
“aap dekhayn aaj gaon ke log motor-cycle chlaa rhay hayn”, this is the ‘traaqi’ he is talking about, when it happens its like the biggest achievement in the world :k:
aap daikhayain tamatar 80 rupees, piyaaz round about 100, red meat in about 300 and pulses 80 rupees as well. thinking about fruit? forget it.aap dakhain main gadha hoon jissay reenknay ki aadat hai. is kay ilawa more pakistanis have died (civilians and army) in my time, lakin we have private channels now which we ban when they start broadcasting our opponants point of view. aap daikhtay jain, ager aap main himat hai tou.
Here are some implications of this disaster that would be good for Pakistan:
Jarnails and ISI realize that “strategic depth”, use of jihad in Afghanistan, Kashmir etc have caused more harm than good and that jihadi tanzeems can no longer be controlled and decide to disarm them for good.
Mullah politicians understand that they cannot keep up their calls for Shariah without provoking madcap jihadis.
Pak awam realizes that they need to stop giving money and respect to people advocating violence and start neighborhood campaigns against suhc people. No more donating skins during eid, no more putting money and jewelry in donation boxes etc.
However, knowing our jahil qaum, here’s what will happen:
After the “operation,” ISI and Jarnails start protecting their favorite “boys” while washing away the Ghazi bros as “black sheep.” They will start cutting more deals, more madrassay will open and more brainwashing will continue.
MMA and other mullah politicians dismiss the episode as “Yahudion kaa saazish,” and deny that there were any jihadis inside the LM and stick to their thundering speeches.
Pak awam will soon forget this and go back to giving money and donations the next time the SSP and other extremists come around. Parents keep sending their kids to fanatical madrassas. Nothing changes.
This operation will not solve any problem except for getting some western support for President. What Lal Masjid people are doing is a criminal activity, but selective operations will alienate a large portion of public. We all know what ethnicity 90% of the Lal mosque people are, and it is the same ethnicity whose 40plus people were killed in Karachi by MQM but not a single person has been arrested. More the killings in Lal Mosque, more alienated these people will be.
This operation will not solve any problem except for getting some western support for President. What Lal Masjid people are doing is a criminal activity, but selective operations will alienate a large portion of public. We all know what ethnicity 90% of the Lal mosque people are, and it is the same ethnicity whose 40plus people were killed in Karachi by MQM but not a single person has been arrested. More the killings in Lal Mosque, more alienated these people will be.
and they don't think by taking Arms against the government, killing 700 of our soldiers, harboring foreign terrorists in their areas, fighting in Afghanistan, undermining the rule of law will not make them alienated?
and they don't think by taking Arms against the government, killing 700 of our soldiers, harboring foreign terrorists in their areas, fighting in Afghanistan, undermining the rule of law will not make them alienated?
Yeah, stopping criminals from that part of the country will mean alienating them! What a ridiculous notion...