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Congrats to the Pak army for there very first victory. Perhaps the generals have finally found an opponent they can actually handle.
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once again, a person who can't separate govt from state of Pakistan and will make use of any opportunity for a wisecrack...
Congrats to the Pak army for there very first victory. Perhaps the generals have finally found an opponent they can actually handle.
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hey man things could have been done russia style with liberal nerve gas usage, problem solved in a few hours.
No, it couldn't. It would have been the end of Mushy. He did the right thing.
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or they could have pulled a US style attack, when janet reno did david koresh in i.e. teh waco assault.
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Quite frankly, the crime would not have fit the end result. In the case of Waco, it was more of a suicide-by-cop than anything else. Here, it would have been a massacre.
Now, the day Mushy takes on the feudal lords is the day we can rejoice. Until then, this was just a huge drama for the ignorant masses to consume. Yes, big bad anti-porn and prostitution mullahs have been taught a lesson. Pornographers of the world rejoice. Whatever.
The fundamental problems within the country remain. And the Mullah was never one of them, as pathetic as they are.
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once again, a person who can't separate govt from state of Pakistan and will make use of any opportunity for a wisecrack...
Oh spare me. Not a single Pakistani general was ever worth the title.
The use of the army for this, as all can see, was not only overkill but the idea that a national army is deployed against a nation's own citizens is what third world tin pot dictators do.
Yes, sure the Pakistani army showed restraint. But then, had the Lal Masjiders had a serious martyrs complex, they would have been massacred. And the Pak army would have obliged. Fellow citizens. So you tell me who can't separate the army from the state.
In fact, reason was employed by all sides...thank God.
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Oh spare me. Not a single Pakistani general was ever worth the title.
so what can we do about it? we can only ask them to be the best they can be but can't lambaste them for not being as good as somebody else with more opportunities. Generals, like politicians, or engineers, or doctors don't grow in vaccum and can only be what the society can prodcue. An American general is more well trained than a Pakisatani one who is better than an Iranian General who in turn is better than an Afghani who are better than their Sudanese counterpart (wait, scratch the last one), and these differences reflect the capabilities of their respective societies.
Let's take a more positive approach, strive to be the best we can be given our resources and exposures, but not blame one anther for NOT being the absolute best in the world. I don't see you winning a Nobel prize in anything either. Not even in wise-assry
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so what can we do about it?
Those generals started all major wars with India...and lost. Those generals are the ones with the half-assed ideas of strategic depth and brain washing militants to fight the "good fight". Those generals are the one who never miss an opportunity to take power, and screw things up even more.
This isn't about quality. This is about not knowing their place. An Indian general would never dare try to do what Paki generals do as a matter of ritual.
And so the implications of the Lal masjid event is nada...the real problems will remain. And so long as the ignorant masses are content with hapless mullahs getting it in the rear, and cheering on these goofballs like they're somehow any better...the situation will not improve.
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Naheen laDo yar.
Captain: Your question was clearly 'rhetorical' only and provoked him
Luxury: You could have just told Captain that it was your impression and can't answer a rhetorical question,
Now kiss and makeup
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Those generals started all major wars with India...and lost. Those generals are the ones with the half-assed ideas of strategic depth and brain washing militants to fight the "good fight". Those generals are the one who never miss an opportunity to take power, and screw things up even more.
This isn't about quality. This is about not knowing their place. An Indian general would never dare try to do what Paki generals do as a matter of ritual.
And so the implications of the Lal masjid event is nada...the real problems will remain. And so long as the ignorant masses are content with hapless mullahs getting it in the rear, and cheering on these goofballs like they're somehow any better...the situation will not improve.
okay - please apply for Indian citizenship and move there, while we rejoice the anticipated victory of the "state of Pakistan" against a Mullah uprising.
keywords: State of Pakistan, not Army. I couldn't care less if it was district police of Rawalpindi that achieved these results. You have become too narrow minded and are viewing each action of the state as being about the army. it is not.
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Naheen laDo yar.
Captain: Your question was clearly 'rhetorical' only and provoked him
I don't know what was rhetorical, may be it was discussed in some thread/posts that I missed, my question was geniune but just like other thread he created he doesn't like question in his threads.
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Those generals started all major wars with India...and lost. Those generals are the ones with the half-assed ideas of strategic depth and brain washing militants to fight the "good fight". Those generals are the one who never miss an opportunity to take power, and screw things up even more.
This isn't about quality. This is about not knowing their place. An Indian general would never dare try to do what Paki generals do as a matter of ritual.
And so the implications of the Lal masjid event is nada...the real problems will remain. And so long as the ignorant masses are content with hapless mullahs getting it in the rear, and cheering on these goofballs like they're somehow any better...the situation will not improve.
Exactly homes, the generals of Pakistan Army for the most part have been the biggest screw ups and goof balls ever, planning and botching up one idiotic and ill-conceived plans after another...the latest example being the Kargil blunder...and these generals are here to stay and would continue to afflict the country for decades to come...
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No, because I'm not so ignorant to think that anything has actually been accomplished here.
I never questioned your ignorance so why bring it up. [piyaray bacho, that's a n example of a rhetorical question. :D]
You are letting your emotions get the best of you. Be positive. This is a good day.
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You are letting your emotions get the best of you. Be positive. This is a good day.
How so, as they're driven by an actual gasp thought process and not blind support for this-or-that.
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How so, as they're driven by an actual gasp thought process and not blind support for this-or-that.
You have a good point and you can convince many but you'd have to be more cryptic than that.
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You have a good point and you can convince many but you'd have to be more cryptic than that.
hahaha
what do you mean, you couldn't see the moon reflecting the image of sun when Lal Masjid movement failed to convince many of peace or war in third world economies dependent on first world countries without this or that?
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You have a good point and you can convince many but you'd have to be more cryptic than that.
:) You've just proved my point, my friend. Or is there some semblance of a point in that rebuke?
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:) You've just proved my point, my friend. Or is there some semblance of a point in that rebuke?
kuch na poocho pico miaN, is hamaam maiN sub hi nangay haiN.
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hahaha
what do you mean, you couldn't see the moon reflecting the image of sun when Lal Masjid movement failed to convince many of peace or war in third world economies dependent on first world countries without this or that?
No, when you read...read all the words in the sentence. Not just the first and last. Doesn't work.
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CNN has alreday started playing tune for terrosrism of muslims .. they were showing a documentry last nite about madrassas in Lahore and elsewhere where young children were memorizing Quran and linked them with terrorists.. how shamelssly they tried to show about Quran learning is linked to terrorism..This Lal Masjid fake drama is just to gain points in west for more $$$ and time..
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^ exactly but one must congradulate the govt on being the a$$ it has been all along.
