Empathy, sincerity and mutual respect encourages free and open communications, we have an open door policy and many of these kids literraly grew up in our home, Justin eats bhindi and aloo Pallak at our place. Many of these kids address my wife as mamma.
Chalo shabash…tum bhi jao apni mamma k paas. Tumhara wait kar rahi hogi. She’s might be thinking…kithay nuss gaya mera Bobby…I am missing out on my daily dose of Bob’s many wonders and kaamyabian. And you are not one to disappoint your Kashmiran. Go, shabaash. Go cook her a nalli broth for her iftari or something.
I am sure when people see someone like you they would take a good impression of what you believe in. I can understand your frustrations but frothing at the mouth wont do you any good.
Bobster, it is clear to many here what your beliefs are. There are MashaAllah many folks out there (both religious and otherwise) who do charitable works without bragging about them to everyone, nor use those good works to look down on other folks (religious or otherwise). You don’t seem to have that sort of grace. Don’t worry about my impression; worry about yours. You made quite the impression when you first joined and you’ve maintained that same impression with every subsequent return. So much so that it’s become easy for people to recognize you. Now that’s called making an impression; an indelible one.
I am not really interested in communicating with someone who is as vicious and as rude as you. If this is what your faith has taught you than good for you. You have continuously attacked me and my family unprovoked and it has only strengthened my belief in what I believe about extremists.
Calm down redvelvet. I dont know you or bobby but as a stranger getting to read all the convo between you and bobby on this thread and other ones, you come across as quite a rude muslim. Islam does not teach* rudeness but patience and humility. So why not follow the basic teachings of your religion instead of attacking others.
Secondly, it seems you are attacking someone based on alot of wrong assumptions which might not be true. So give people benefit of the doubt and dont be so harsh. The guy seems to have valid concerns about many weaknesses of most muslim socities these days. Ever questioned your parents or their parents why they opted to settle down in a nonmuslim country?
Many of his concerns are very valid and raised by many people if you pay attention. So bashing and attacking those peoples’ personal lives/family is not the right attitude. You should come up with strong valid answers. Convince him why all the muslims opt to leave their native muslim countries. If they see problems in their respective muslim societies at home, why not stay and fix those problems if they truly are so good muslims and care about the conditions at home instead of letting it rot further by the illiterate masses taking it over and making it so repulsive for other muslims or nonmuslims to live?
I dont know about multies and all but whatever concerns he has are very valid so come up with good answers. Though his way of raising those concerns probably is not the best hence creating suspicion that his intentiom is to attack your religion. As a neutral random reader, I can safely say that your assumption is not correct. You also seem to me a little paranoid so dont suspect me as his other multi. Im just a random nobody co-incidently joined at this time to see these provocative views ha.
And redvelvet, I would highly advise you to live couple of years of your life in some muslim country preferably your native which your ancestors opted to leave. Take that as a learning experience. Most probably after that experience, it will be you in bobby’s shoes writing exactly what he has and there will be someone new to bash you like you have.
I have to defend redvelvet on this. Everything she mentioned about Bobby1 are mere facts. His posts and posts of his previous multis can be looked up, so there is no question about making false assumptions.
(She made one mistake though, one of his previous names was Shawns, not Sean.)
There is nothing valid about his concerns and neither is he empathic. It is unbelievable how people cannot see through such a person whose propagenda is so obviously propa ganda.
Giving someone the benefit of the doubt is not relevant when his intentions are clear.
Bobby’s only goal is to stir fires and then act as a masoom victim by making up lame stories to convince people of his goodness. And that is how he gets attention.
And let’s not get started about those fake perfect stories about his relations and all the good work he does. Half of the people he talks about don’t exist, and the ones who do are badly photoshopped. Same goes for the achievements. If there are any.
With his super successful job, volunteering work on the side, spending lots of quality time with family and his countless white friends, hobbies and sport activities, taking care of the household and fundraisings for the battered women, this good samaritan still manages to spend a sjhitload of time on GS. Bobby’s days must be 200 hours long instead of 24 hrs. DOES HE EVEN SLEEP?
So yea, I am glad that redvelvet is among the very few here who are still critical and call a spade a spade, instead of sugarcoating everything and letting people go with nonsense.
Because of these people this place is still worth coming to and somewhat enjoyable. Hopefully it stays that way.
I dont have a magic wand to know hoe many ids someone posts from. I was speaking after having read communicatiom between the two. So if you have evidence to back up your claim, I dont think I have much to say here.
By respecting others , we respect ourselves. Why degrade? Why not try and understand situations and people? Religion is not the reason behind the downfall of some Muslim countries. Its actually not following religion correctly that is leading to such downfall. Religion does not encourage corruption, religion is all about justice. Justice more than equality. Some problems can not simply be fixed by staying. Some might be able to do that, others cant. Leaving your country is not a sin. Having no concern for the muslim ummah is. Who knows maybe by leaving one is able to acquire more wealth and hence help the ummah better. Maybe it helps you acquire education which you can take back and use. Leaving does not mean forgetting where you came from and not doing anything for those you left behind. It actually gives you more means to help. No country is completely a muslim country and all land is Allahs land. You can follow any religion, almost anywhere. Its all about doing the little bit you can in your finite time here on earth. It does not matter where you are, what matters is what you do. So , it is wrong to single out muslim countries and say they are so backward and whatnot, because of religion.Or for any reason. Why degrade them? Why not see what can be done? Why criticise those who leave? Why is leaving wrong. Helping and caring shows sincerity more than staying does. I understand people usually leave with a better life for themselves in mind. However, you cant pour from an empty glass. Reasons are far more complex, as we all know. Power in the wrong hands and maybe more importantly the lack of money. Money can be used to almost solve any problem, and in the right hands can create functioning societies , like we see in the west. Money and education.
It is wrong to ridicule and belittle one another and each others point of views. We all have different opinions, that’s what makes the world an interesting place. In my opinion, one part of good morality is just leading by example. Arguments and debates are good but in all honestly they should not be taken too seriously, no one really agrees with anyone in the end. It is all just good fun. There is no point in getting personal. Respect should always be maintained.
Are you sure you wanted to quote me? Where do you see me degrading, ridiculing, belittling others??? My post to redvelvet was to tell her to counter the argument with good answers instead of ridiculing another poster and his family. Get your specs on.
I only quoted you because you mentioned the weakness of Muslim societies . My post was not aimed at you. It was a generally aimed at most the discussion that took place in the entire thread .
Knowing someone is hetro, gay,bi or cheating on someone is not creepy, when your grown adult sons have to hide they have girlfriends or drink etc and when you force grown adults to marry people they don’t even know seems creepier than hell to me.
Being so desperate to leave where people risk their lives to get here, many lie and cheat, and as you rightfully worry marry for green card and then constantly attack the society and people who welcomed them and provided them with a chance at good life in some cases life-saving treatment, in many cases welfare and food and shelter is absolutely wrong. If you sheltered someone in need and that person constantly projected hate towards you and said your house is Allah’s land then would you be happy with that person or ask him to leave.
So yesterday I woke up at 5, sent kids to practice, went for a hike, did groceries barbecued etc went to work at 1 pm got back at 9 pm, no customer showed so I posted all day to kill time and how is that so unbelievable. I have two assistants and they do most of the work I only talk to people who are interested in buying houses. I don’t even know to photoshop. I am the VP of our sports club and of course, I know all the athletes and their friends. Having sold hundreds of millions worth of real estate you get to meet a lot of people. Real estate is very intimate transactions and you get to know people real well. Attacking people’s families and making false accusations is not honesty it is just rude but carry on. So tell me this lunch after team meeting at my place is photo shopped
If they are not my friends why are they eating my food?
