It means you haven’t met enough number of Muslims yet. BTW, “Jesus” is called Essa/Eisa/Isa in Quran so you won’t see any Muslim bearing this name “Jesus”.
You do definitely want to see Muslims giving up any defense right? (turn other cheek). But guess what, its not going to happen
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May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right
So how many Muslims are named Essa/Eisa/Isa?
Has whatever the Muslims been doing so far worked? I’m saying that WE ALL should follow the teachings of Jesus in turning the other cheek. Not just Muslims - Christians, Jews, Hindus are all capable and guilty of violence.
I don’t see how any “Final Prophet” could dismiss the teachings of peace as per Jesus Christ. The Quran seems to be closer to the Old Testament than the New Testament.
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Originally posted by !~!ZahrA!~!:
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Originally posted by zaksnoor:
**One Tradition tells us that
'the Mahdi is no other than the Messiah' [Ibn-e-Maja]
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This is not an authentic hadith and therefore can't stand as evidence. In fact, it is a fabricated concoction according to some hadith masters. For example, ash-Shawkani (d.1250H) includes it in his collection of spurious hadith, Al-Fawa'id al-Majmu'a (#1426), where he also mentions as-Saghani's statement that it is "fabricated". As-Suyuti (d.911H) said its chain of transmission is "weak" in his work Akhbar al-Mahdi (2:274 - part of al-Hawi lil-Fatawi) and Hafidh adh-Dhahabi (d.748H) called it a "rejected report" in al-Mizan al-'Itidal (#7479).
One of the narration's principle defects, from a hadith science viewpoint, is that its chain of transmission contains the narrator Muhammad ibn Khalid al-Jandi who is "unknown" as confirmed by Hafidh ibn Hajar (d.852H) in at-Taqrib (#5849) and ibn as-Salah in Amaliyah (cited in adh-Dhahabi, al-Mizan, #7479). Yahya ibn Ma'in said he was "trustworthy" whilst al-Azadi called him "rejected in hadith" (ibid).
The hadith has other defects that weaken it, but the above should suffice.
One of the clearest hadiths that clarifies that al-Mahdi (r) and Prophet 'Isa (as) are indeed two different people is the one narrated by the Companion Jabir ibn 'Abdullah (r) who relates that Allah's Messenger (s) said:
"'Isa son of Mary will descend and their leader al-Mahdi will say (to him): 'Come, lead us in prayer.' But he will say: 'No, indeed some of you have been given leadership over others, as an honour from Allah to this nation.'"
It is cited by ibn al-Qayyim (d.751H) in Al-Manar al-Munif (p.147-148) and he said its chain of transmission is "good" and it was further authenticated by Muhhadith al-Albani in Silsilah as-Sahihah (#2236). Ibn Khuzaimah (d.311H) also records it in his collection of sahih hadith.
And Allah knows best.
Iqbal
I always thought Dajjal would come firs, then Imam Mahdi and Hazrat isa would join later.
Dajjal will come and dstart creating a whole lota trouble for us muslims and then Allah will send Imam Mahdi to riegn the idiot in(i.e battles,wars and such) then Hazrat isa will come and finish the dajjal off....
Also, can anyone tell me if this whole Dajjal, mahdi, Isa thingy has anything to do with the Chiristain belif of the Anti-Christ?
http://www.promisedmehdi.com/
READ THIS SITE. YOU WILL LEARN ALL ABOUT IT. INSHALLAH.
AH.
Unfortunately, the site you refer to has nothing to do with the real Mahdi. One of the few correct conclusions the site arrives at is that the Mahdi and Prophet 'Isa (as) are two different people in contradiction to those who mistakenly cite the “weak” hadith “The Mahdi is no other than the Messiah” which is not at all authentic as i’ve explained a few posts earlier. The site does, however, try to convince its readers that the Mahdi and Prophet 'Isa will not come or live at the same time. This is a rejected view that conflicts with authentic texts and scholarly opinion.
Iqbal
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*I suppose there are one of those God given *hadiths to tell you?
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Seminole, this statement is enough to expose the knowledge that you have of Islam.
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Seminole, this statement is enough to expose the knowledge that you have of Islam. **
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I am a student, not a scholar in this area. I have never claimed anything else.
Anyways, we believe that Quran is the word of God, and ahadeeth are the words, actions, and deeds done by the Prophet (PBUH). There's a difference between the ahadeeth and the Quran. In Quran, some times some thing is mentioned, like we have to pray or fast. But how to do those things, for that we have to see the way how the prophet (PBUH)performed those things. We believe that Quran is accurate, there could be some flaws in some ahadeeth as they were compiled after 200-250 years after the death of the Prophet (PBUH). To check the validity of the ahadeeth, that clash with the basic principles of Islam, its a better idea to compare the Quran and ahadeeth, and only those ahadeeth be picked up which dont clash with Quran.
As far as Bible is concerned, I have felt that, it consists both the wordings of God, as well as the wordings of Jesus (PBUH). Is that right?