i am dying to risse from those ashes....and my vote is 100% for IK!
but kya karoon....i cannot ignore villages ..... especially in punjab.......i was born and raised in lahore but whole family hails from central punjab rural areas and been in local politics for over 40 years ... and NO i am not supporting PMLN.....i am a PTI supporter but when i speak to my people in rural areas, i just dont get the sense that tsunami is anywhere there...
IK needs electibles in those villages.....
i said that many times.....and i say it again...our maasses are corrupt to core..and they like and want proven corrupt people of same bradari.....
they dont believe in any inqilab or anything like that especially in villages
in indo-pak its very hard for a relatively new party to get votes from rural area...
in rural areas maximum time folks either vote for a party or a name....
thats why lot of good people fail to win a seat...in rural areas...
IK is not relying on turncoats and lotas anymore. Specially in urban cities. He is looking to get votes on his electoral symbol bat no matter who the candidate is. In rural areas, he will need to rely on electables. This is his biggest challenge. I also know that he is visiting interior sindh soon to try and sway voters there which is highly unlikely. But then again he is not the one to shy away from a challenge anyway.
My bet is still the same. PTI will win most number of popular votes all over pakistan but not enough seats.. thus highlighting the flaws in our electoral system.
The system, hijacked by the so-called electables, needs to be retaken by the true democratic forces if Pakistan is to move ahead. Otherwise instead of voting, the ECP should only count how many electables different parties have under their belt and declare one of them as the ruling party. Right now, it's a contest of electables instead of votes.
fair enough shoaib....i am the one who is bringing the topic of "electables" and urging the importance of striking a balance between idealism and practicality...so here you go!
everyone on this forum knows where i stand as far my political identity is concerned ...I want a free, secular (at state level), progressive, modern, jihad free, india/USA animosity free pakistan..... so i was obviously disappointed with JI seat adjustment... but we need to be patient with such decisions...
i am even OK if imran adds more "electables" into his party in rural areas...
unless IK comes into power he cannot change anything.....that does not mean he shd do what nawaz has done but he can be more a bit more flexible abt electables in rural areas....otherwise he will never win. i am afraid.
one more point....going with parties like JI is a bit different than going with "corrupt electables" ... corrupt electables are nothing but puppets and easy to handle whereas JI has a certain philosophy and it will push you to follow it....and that is not good!
as one observed noted and i concur 100%:
"This is a disturbing thought on two counts. First, in a democracy, mainstream political parties are expected to use the national and provincial parliaments to enact laws that can guarantee the smooth activation of the country’s security agencies and outlets. So as to be able to take direct action against violent acts of sectarian and religious hatred and as well as crack down on all possible triggers that generate or encourage this nature of violence.
Secondly, if some political parties are striking electoral deals with the certain organisations, does this mean that those ideologies that these outfits propagate actually have voter support from certain sections of the society?"
Jamaat-i-Islami ki charge-sheet:
Kashmir jihad,
anti-Ahmadi rioting,
Afghanistan mein khana-jangi,
campuses par auraton ke ooper tashadud
and our great IK shook hand with them in all 4 provincess
zindabad aie inqilab zindabad
To be blatantly Honest with u PD ..... i agree with u on almost all points .... however i don't think there will be any relief for us Ahmadis or any other minority under a PM IK .... ironicly the only time State sanctioned Persecution of Ahmadis went down a bit was during Musharafs Rule ..... i wish This Tehrik-e-Insaaf all the best and atleast IK "seems" to me honest but as u said many times before as well as in this thread, the Society is corrupt to its core ...... and unfortunatly many are led to believe that minoroties such as us Ahmadis, christians, hindus etc. are the root cause for all evil ..... How ironic it is not when PPL claim to Protect the graceful of Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW who was sentas "rehmat-ul-Lil-Alameen" to mankind but in the same breathe spew sheer hatred against mankind ..... it's this very mentality that has led to state of affairs in this country and others too ..... unless
What's up with PTI alliance with JI? who openly supports militants?
I guess Punjab is going to decide the fate of PTI... I was reading somewhere, Pml-n is still doing pretty well in most areas of Punjab. It's going to be a battle between PTI & Pmln
^ Pakistani electoral politics is very complicated.PMLN, PTI, JUI and JI are more or the less competing for the same audience. If PTI does not joins hands PMLN, JI and JUI will gang up and create problems for PTI in KP. JI does not have votes in Punjab (except my constituency :@:).
If JI and PTI form an alliance they could win some seats from Karachi as well. If I have to chose between JI and JUI I'd support JI anyday.