if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

The thing is that it is a common disease among human beings to take things out of context. When you refer to Quran, please make sure that you understand Quran by reading Quran completely. Quran explains itself several places that** The LOSERS** are the one who will enter hellfire.

give you just an example, rest you can read Quran and find yourself:

:bism:

64:9 The Day that He assembles you (all) for a Day of Assembly,- that will be a Day of mutual loss and gain (among you), and those who believe in Allah and work righteousness,- He will remove from them their ills, and He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: that will be the Supreme Achievement.

64:10 But those who reject Faith and treat Our Signs as falsehoods, they will be Companions of the Fire, to dwell therein for aye: and evil is that Goal.

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

Average American Girl...the verses you posted do not say "If you dont follow my religion you are going to hell".

Rather, they actually are, as muslims believe, words of God...God is saying to us, that HE will be the one to decide who goes to hell and who doesn't.

Any muslim who claims to say they can point at someone and say "he/she is going to hell" is ignorant, and unfortunately, an example of how most muslims think.

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

this is very true for no one knows the future. Any living person who is not a muslim is a potential muslim of future.

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

Firstly.

When I responded to Skhan’s posting:

[3:85]

“By the One is Whose hand is my soul, no one of this
nation, Jew or Christian, will hear of me and not believe in that
with which I have been sent, but he will be one of the people of
Hell.”

I understood gist of his post to defending an idea that paradise in the hereafter is exclusive to muslims and that Christians and Jews are doomed to hell. My post was meant to convey otherwise.

64.9 - In my thinking , in order to dwell in paradise one must…

Believe in God.

Are sincere in character.

Are morally ethically in manner.

Losing God’s grace in the hereafter is mutual to all peoples if ^ is ignored

64.10 - In my thinking, those that are condemed in the hereafter are…

Those who reject God.

Those who reject God’s teachings.

<~~ Not a religious scholar.

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

^ Very convenient definitions. Care to elaborate on exactly whose God and which teachings you are referring to? Or should everyone just follow their own religion and meet up in Heaven?

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

Can I ask you a question?

Is your query sincere?

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

Can I ask you a question?

Is your query sincere?

Would it be all right with you if some day we did meet in heaven?

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

Can I ask you a question?

Is your query sincere?

What if perchance we did meet in heaven?

Would that be ok with you?

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

yes

yes

I doubt chance would have anything to do with it.

I really don’t think it would matter if it was ok with me or not :slight_smile:

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

O.K.

For a moment there I thought your intentions were unkind.

My expections of you were unkind.

I'm sorry.

My bad.

I figured that your true intentions were to poke fun and belittle.

Little did I know that if God decree's we two should meet...

You might actually like me. :)

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

Well...

It could happen.....:)

Well.......

O.K.

Perhaps a polite hello :)

Or even a simple...

What the heck are you doing here?

Wow!!

Really good to see ya!!

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

Anwaar bhai, by saying that you know that only Muslims will be going to heaven, aren't you trying to take his place? How do you know what the Almighty has in mind? Everytime I try to pursue my religion, this kind of thinking by the majority of Muslims takes me two steps backward. Really.

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

Fortunatley, I am not saying anything. It’s the Quran which is saying all this.

After the Prophethood of Muhammad:saw:, only those are guaranteed to be successful in life hereafter who come into the fold of islam. And before him:saw:, the followers of the previous prophets (AS) are given the same success provided they stayed firm on their belief at that time.

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Islam = Submission to God.

One can be born of Muslim parents and claim they are Muslim…

And …

Lack Islam.

(Submission* to God)

Anyone can be a LOSER.

One can routinely follow muslim religious practises perscribed…

Yet…

Outside the perscribed routine exhibit unethical behavior.

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

^ "submission", "routine unethical behaviour", "loser"

once again you generalize, what is submission to you is not submission to the other

where do we draw the line, or do we make up our own religion in accordance to our beliefs and desires?

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

What in your thinking is submission to God?

What in your thinking is morally ethical behavior?

What in your thinking is sincerity?

If you were to combine ^ above....

Why the need to judge character based on religious creed?

Do you think God does?

Re: if your family was wiped out would you move closer or away from religion?

damn i thought this topic died a long time ago but its still here! Goody goody gum drops..my post is a success.