If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

[PRNR]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

@PaKpatriot1

Mera bhai… Pakistani Shia’s have been able to fight back against Sunni with the same amount of strenth and bravado as the Sunnis have. Its a tit for tat thing. Its something that is endemic to all the muslim world this beef between Shias and Sunnis. Take Iraq for example. So to point a finger at Pakistan is just stupid. Besides, those that due indulge in such things happens to be of the fantical kind who join terrorist type groups. The general public is completely against these things. As ooposed to the mass killings in India, terrorism in Pakistan is commited by small minority, while in India, ethnic cleansing is a neighborhood affiar.. There are BBQ’s and everyone has a good time:)
As for AZAD Kashmir, we cant simply let people flood across the LOC NOW CAN WE.. Indian army would probably shoot them all or they would probably be blown to bits by land mines…
As for Bengalis, well, most of that was a lie propogated by Indians. And it was commited by the Army, not by a mob of Pakistanis.

Amazing!! And why does it not occur to you that the same possibly applies to India as well…“neighbourhood affair”!!! u really dont know much…u believe this to be the case. It is not.

[expatobserver]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

@Blitzkrieg

Pakistan didnt have too many minorities to begin with!

You really don’T know very much history do you? Karachi was chock full of hindu sindhis in 1947. NWFP also had a large hindu and well tolerated (in British raj) hindu population. Where are they now? or you do not want to answer because you alreadyu know the shameful answer. Bloody hypocrites.

[system]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

@PRNR

Amazing!! And why does it not occur to you that the same possibly applies to India as well…“neighbourhood affair”!!! u really dont know much…u believe this to be the case. It is not.

Ovious answer is that the terrorist atacks in Pak are by a fringe element not representative of the majority. In India, the mass riots and ethnic cleanising is at the hands of the average man.

[PRNR]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

@PaKpatriot1

Ovious answer is that the terrorist atacks in Pak are by a fringe element not representative of the majority. In India, the mass riots and ethnic cleanising is at the hands of the average man.

MAss riots, ethnic cleansing - I guess its not possible, but would have been great if you could have actualy lived in India and then you would have made the comment (in bold above) with reference to the “mass riots and ethnic cleanising in India”. Nobody can possibly make a claim that people of different religions love each other or something like that but certainly most in India keep their reservations about other people’s religion to themselves and dont go about ethnic cleansing or mass riots (there is the fringe element of the society which does it and if not yet inGujarat, at least in other places and also in Maharashtra you do see parties like Shiv Sena losing badly. So its not the terrible society you portray it to be. (not to imply that its perfect..has many flaws)

[NameInUse]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

@Al Faris

The fact is that Pakistan needs to grow up and realize that there will always be Muslim versions of “Judas’s” floating around…hypocrites always existed and still exist today; millions of Indian Muslims would not hesitate to destroy an Islamic country like Pakistan in the name of an alien culture and when push comes to shove, the Islamic country should be “in a bind” on what to do with them??? The moment the war is over, they will be lining up for a hindi movie role in which they will malign Pakistan, make fun of it, and gladly shout with tears in their eyes: “Jai Hind”.

This is IF there is a war. I personally feel that Pakistan has much better things to do than to wage war on a foreign country 10 times in population and 4 times it’s size!! The “real” Pakistan needs to now eclipse the present Pakistan that is dilly-dallying in the dark for decades as it tries to figure out what gets the priority: Islam or Influences of a foreign culture lurking in its society - this in my view has been the bane of Pakistan’s existence; a terrible strait-jacket that has brainwashed and confused its masses.
The “real” Pakistan I am referring to will have a revamped foreign policy portfolio which leverages its substantial strategic geo-politcal status. Then Pakistan forums will have discussion on say the following lines that address ALL its neighbours: 20% discussion on Iran, 20% on Afghanistan, 20% on China, 20% on Gulf countries and yeah maybe at times one alien Eastern neighbour - India; instead of the pathetic situation now where 90% of energy and resources are wasted on India and 90% of foreigners on this site are from one country!

There is much more to Pakistan but the potential has been stifled due to primarily, Pakistani leaders’ laziness in keeping “cultural terrorism” orchastrated by a nefarious neighbour for decades under check and then of course the foreign neighbour itself acting with malice trying to take “1,000 years’ revenge” since the British landed!!

This is a very interesting comment. Particularly regarding Muslim version of Judas. I wonder if the Egyptians still harbour any ill will for the “Muslim version of Judas”, duing the battle for the Suez Canal. I read somewhere that Nasser never quite got over it.
I do agree with you though, Pakistan’s foreign policy has been quite unifocal and reactive. To add to this, the foreign policy was crafted by military men not well versed in realpolitik. Does anyone remember why the Taliban had “strategic depth”? Perhaps Hameed Gul could drop by and explain to us.
In terms of Iran, did anyone else read this: http://www.janes.com/regional_news/asia_pacific/news/fr/fr030129_1_n.shtml
I thought it was interesting myself. Iran, a theorcracy run by Mullahs, allowing their airspace to be used this way. Do Iranian’s see themselves as a “Muslim version of Judas”? Maybe their judas was someone who helped the American’s launch Marines against them, or killed their diplomats and let their killers go free, or perhaps someone who was a midwife to the Taliban.
I remember reading about the Uighurs a little while ago. Seems the Chinese thought the Uighurs were getting help from Pakistan based jihadi organizations, another interesting case of a Judas. That really doesn’t matter. Does anyone remember Deng Xiaoping saying “being rich is glorious”? One just needs to read the international news, even Pakistani, to see how much the Chinese, of late, have terrible animosity towards India…

[jason_chiu888]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

oh please... this a war between India and Pakistan and not between muslims and hindus. Religion should not be taken into account in the event of a war. It would be even more disastrous. It would lead to back stabbing at either side.

[jason_chiu888]

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@vineshvk

well the name stan or sthan is mostly associated with muslim majority areas, turkmenistan, afghanistan, pakistan etc… and not many hindus will call India Hindustan.

I am most curious. But isn’t the name India given by the Bristish? The British gave names that was an insult to all indians. For eg: Mysore, Madras and including India itself. Mysore= A sore in me. I do not want to go further or it might insult some of the Indians here in this thread.

[Farid]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

Pakistan fought two full wars with India; Muslims of India were never an issue in those wars. BD is another example. Once a President of Pakistan, roared on the radio in 1971 that kill all enemy soldiers as they are Kafirs! (Utho momino, kafiron ko tahis nahis kardo)

The topic itself is turnaround of the principle of freeing occupied Kashmir which was the reason of wars with India and justification of Pakistan Army to defend against India.

FARID

[expatobserver]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

@NameInUse

This is a very interesting comment. Particularly regarding Muslim version of Judas. I wonder if the Egyptians still harbour any ill will for the “Muslim version of Judas”, duing the battle for the Suez Canal. I read somewhere that Nasser never quite got over it.
I do agree with you though, Pakistan’s foreign policy has been quite unifocal and reactive. To add to this, the foreign policy was crafted by military men not well versed in realpolitik. Does anyone remember why the Taliban had “strategic depth”? Perhaps Hameed Gul could drop by and explain to us.
In terms of Iran, did anyone else read this: http://www.janes.com/regional_news/asia_pacific/news/fr/fr030129_1_n.shtml
I thought it was interesting myself. Iran, a theorcracy run by Mullahs, allowing their airspace to be used this way. Do Iranian’s see themselves as a “Muslim version of Judas”? Maybe their judas was someone who helped the American’s launch Marines against them, or killed their diplomats and let their killers go free, or perhaps someone who was a midwife to the Taliban.
I remember reading about the Uighurs a little while ago. Seems the Chinese thought the Uighurs were getting help from Pakistan based jihadi organizations, another interesting case of a Judas. That really doesn’t matter. Does anyone remember Deng Xiaoping saying “being rich is glorious”? One just needs to read the international news, even Pakistani, to see how much the Chinese, of late, have terrible animosity towards India...

In fact such a terrible animosity towards India that India and China in Asia are each other’s best customers.

[pak4ever]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

I think if Pakistan were to go to war with India, it should avoid Hindus and specifically target the Indian Muslims, much as its doing inside Pakistan at the moment...

[malhot]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

Pakistan represents only the Muslims of Punjab, the rest are treated like colonies.

So much for the dreams of the creators of Pakistan that it would represent the muslims of the 'South Asia or even the world.

[mAd_ScIeNtIsT]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

@malhot

Pakistan represents only the Muslims of Punjab, the rest are treated like colonies.

So much for the dreams of the creators of Pakistan that it would represent the muslims of the 'South Asia or even the world.

LOL … says the man who’s never lived in Pakistan

Quite the expert aren’t you?

[_Lahore_Ka_Cheetah]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

@expatobserver

What utter nonsense. Every muslim country other than you idiots protect their land with all they got. Iran isn’t giving Pakistan any cut rate oil or gas. Iranis have been Iranis long before they have been muslims. Ditto Egypt, Libya, Syria. You name it. Go on dreaming that Pakistan is going to be some kind of khilafat for ummah. It ain’t going to happen now or ever. Lahore bhai please stop this bakwas. Mera pet has haske dookh rahan hain.

KSA gave Pakistan cheap oil.

[_Lahore_Ka_Cheetah]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

@expatobserver

In fact such a terrible animosity towards India that India and China in Asia are each other’s best customers.

Bull****
India is nowhere close to being a major trading partner of China.

[Afrasiab_Khan]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

hello all I am new to this forum but have really enjoyed the views expressed by you all.
Artful

[jason_chiu888]

Re: If Pakistan and India went to war, would Pakistan avoid Indian Muslims?

@Afrasiab Khan

hello all I am new to this forum but have really enjoyed the views expressed by you all.
Artful

Welcome aboard Afrasiab Khan!

[jason_chiu888]

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@vineshvk

look son, u implied that the land of India is for the hindus, thats not true.. thats what I am saying. Hindus dont call India hindustan. If that is so we would have driven out all the muslims from the country. Only Nepal is a Hindu country in the world.

Hi dad!! How you doing? I don’t know where you are from. but my indian staff says they speak hindustani. I usually question them as to what their actual mother tongue is and where are they originally from. They do say that they are hindustani and speak hindi.
yes agreed nepal is a hindu country but they still have buddist as well.
How do i know? One of my staff is a nepali from nepal and not darjeeling. God! i do know don’t i?