the answer for your question depends on what an individual wants...
If israel did it, the response will be different...
If India does it,the response will be different..
If china does it, the response will be different..
If pakistan does it, the response will be different...
even one guy of this forum will support israel for whatever it does and when india comes he will suddenly change the plate ;).
and israel is in a much more dangerous situation, where everyone around it calls for its complete destruction every now and then.
your thread should have mentioned israel rather than india. Your thread will get more attention
I think a lot of Pakistanies would feel that Indian Muslims would not be treated humanely in such a situation, given evidence of Indian govt's direct or indirect killing at a massive scale of Muslims in the past. People have mentioned Gujraat and Kashmir, two of the more recent incidents where the Indian govt (not just people) were blamed for atrocities along communal lines.
whereas Pakistan has had problems in the past, generally problems that involved the state werent along religious lines. However, if we MUST cast it into pakistani terms, I would say the appropriate analogy would be a Pathan seeing a mosque full of Pathans surrounded by a predominantly Mujahir army.
^ ^ thanks for the sensible reply. I think it is wrong to assume that indian govt is involved in killing innocent people. no body can deny that India is facing the worst problem of terrorism so whatever they do is to take care of terrorism. be it operation in kashmir or punjab or anywhere else.
Gujrat is a different case, that was a planned communal riot. it was started by some miscreants intentionally and then allegedly supported by the state govt.
In no case people by surrounded by army and massacared as per popular belief in pakistan.
gujrat was unfortunate, kashmir is unavoidable.
I guess i was trying to ask if people here would adopt double standards if same thing was done in India or support and understand that most of the Indians did in the current case.
hah… i didnt mention isreal cuz everyone knows that they would have attacked and finished the job even before anyone here could open a thread about it.
why do you keep saying that the Indian government was responsible for the killings in Gujarat? Do you not understand the words "communal riots"?
Please present us with the legitimate source in which you read that the Indian government was responsible.
Read your own hindustantime report that gujrat modi govt was involved [maps were given to locate muslim houses] and the police didn't act.
^I have no idea what really happened on that day in Gujarat since I wasn't there in India. I am not going to base everything on **assumptions **people made/still making in India or Pakistan.
Beside I really don't think you should be so high on yourself about how you treat other fellow Muslims looking at how you speak about India's Muslims and looking at Pakistan's past record.
I think if India had a similar situation, it would depend on the context in which those Muslims inside the mosque were after.
If they wanted to draw attention to Indian crimes in Kashmir, impose sharia law in muslim areas, liberation of kashmir, release of muslim political prisoners from indian jails, avenging gujrat riots, protesting hindu bias against muslims, etc....
Then it will draw total sympathy from Pakistan.
I really cannot think of any situation in which those muslims inside a mosque in India would be called terrorists by Pakistan.
If India had done what Pakistan did, Indian Army would be called an terrorists and the people inside the mosque would be called freedom fighters.
I think anyone in similar situation would make similar assertions.
I think India already did it, i don't know much about that, but i guess it was a shrine in Indian Occupied Kashmir, where Kashmiri Mujahideen was said to be hidding and Indian |Army or special forces did operation and burnt the shrine, i dont know if this is comparable or not
I think India already did it, i don't know much about that, but i guess it was a shrine in Indian Occupied Kashmir, where Kashmiri Mujahideen was said to be hidding and Indian |Army or special forces did operation and burnt the shrine, i dont know if this is comparable or not
You must be talking about hazrat bal and charar e sharif mosques. I don't know whether hazrat bal shrine is intact or not, but charar e sharif was burned down by militants as it was a sufi shrine. and has been reconstructed i believe.
well, I think India already did it as BF mentioned. Jarnail Singh Bhindrawalay's seige of the Golden Temple in the mid 80's leading to the Operation Blue Star can be compared on 'some levels' to Operation Silence. However, there were fewer freedom fightors/militants inside the Harmandir Singh than the number of faithfuls inside the Lal masjid and more causalties were suffered by the Indian Army as compared to what our forces faced.
Pakistani government might not officially side with the muslims for political expediency and also if hypothtically the demands of those inside a mosque are irrational but people will definitly be enraged at any such action.
Let me also mention, lest I forget the seige of Chirar Sharif and Hazrat Bal mosques in 1995 and 1996 and another in 2001 (can't recall the name of the mosque). So for the Indian army/govt, these incidents/events are not new.
