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Ditto.
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just refer to "all i did was sex" thread on here..could be an eye opener for u..
if u really really really get swayed into the moment u may want to recite a small ayat to bring u back into senses n see the right from wrong..
n if neither of u can wait then get married fast!!
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I said sex b4 marriage is a sin. However i said if your gonna marry the guy then why not. Thats what i said. And for myself i dont see the issue in it. Now im not telling any person on here to go ahead and do that. I presumme the youngest age on here wud be 18. Im sure everyone has their own minds and not to listen to what sum1 on the internet says. Its not about islam or not. It was a question i answerd move on seriously. Why wud anyone be offended about it? If the person asked islamically wud you sleep with your fiance? i wud say no, bcoz islam says no to alot of things. Theres bigger things going on in the world than wud you hav sex with your fiance or not. If you dont want other peoples opinions seriously dont post it on the internet and dont interact with people.
okay so that’s why you posted that thread. 
people if you’re so keen on making multies, please at least try to hide it.
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Actually we have people who are 14 and 13 as well on this site. Just to answer your question about the minimum age.
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So many perverted threads on GS lately, It has become PG forum 
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Ayesha i agree with ur eye prostitution thing. that's my knowledge too. but ppl over here needs everything with Hadees. do bring that Hadees
O.K i hav heard many stories that in Pak as soon as engagement happens most guys start asking the girl to date n meet outside. if that permission is given or girls do it secretly they slowly take it one step further. they keep pressurizing the girl with" don't u trust me, don't u like me?" tactic and most girls from fear of annoying them or breaking engagements just giv in. . Thanks God i was never in this situation but its tricky to handle these things. and most men start acting like ur husband rite after engagement seriously.Correct me if i'm wrong
hitchki be fair. mb u can do watever u want w ur life. but wen it comes to the question of whether sex before marriage is a sin, anyone who knows even a little bit abt islam will know the right answer.
I feel I am being fair. Its ok for 9/10th of people on here to have "bfs"/flirt outrageously but when someone is honest enough to talk about their personal boundaries (on a wierd thread, no doubt) then they are assailed with religious scripture.
I think there should be tolerance for personal boundaries. Some of "us" think it is OK to have extra marital relations. Which is fine by me, but what you do with that person is just a small extention of your niat. Which, after all - is the cornerstone of our faith, no? If you are going to go all holier than thou, then why not just say no to nah-mehrams all togeather. It wouul be a far less hypocritical standpoint.
Anyway. Whatever trevor.
Ayesha i agree with ur eye prostitution thing. that's my knowledge too. but ppl over here needs everything with Hadees. do bring that Hadees
Yeh I am going to do some research and ask mum and bring in enough material to enlighten people on here.
I dont think anyone is attacking anyone else for their opinion on the matter. we all have opinions and personal boundaries. however, people start getting offended when we attribute things to religion that are simply not true.
This is what you said:
Big world of difference between, “why not?” and “its not” and THATS what has people so bothered , that you cannot see that.
may i remind you you dont know who multis are whos…so stop playing detective. at last not here. 
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Islam says "Amr bil maruf wa nahi anil munker" enjoy good deeds and stop from doing wrong". So Islam is no body's personal matter and a muslim is not free to do wat he wants. .
there's a hadees if u see someone doing wrong stop from ur hand(by force) if u can't do that stop by tongue. if even that's not possible then think it bad in ur heart and move on and this is the weakest Iman.
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^ okay mabrook lemme correct you on this ... the issue has nothing to do about the eye prostitution or hadees or watever else about engagement that you said ... the question was simply put wld u do something phsyical (if anything) physical with ur bf or fiance before u guys get married ... everyone chose the politically and islamically correct answer except for mixed beauty who chose to express her opinion and said that if i'm 100% sure i'm gettig married to guy then i don't have a problem with doing it with him ... and just cuz of that everyone went after her that its haram and its this and that and that she shouldn't post something like that and shez influencing other people on this forum ... simply put if the thread starter is posting a thread like this then you are bound to have 10 types of opinions come in and if the mods in the forum think that it can influence people in a negative way then they should close this thread rite in the beginning ... you can not and should not go after one person because she chose to express her opinion because that is wat was asked of her and that is what she did ... the grl did not say anything bad about anyone else's opinion and she deserves to get the same respect ... u can politely say that i don't agree with what you said and this is my opinion and thats fine ... there is no need to go after te poor grl ... and lastly this all i did was sex thread that appeared ... it pretty much emphasizes mixedbeauty's point that if the guy wants to break up then engagement or marriage doesn't matter cuz in that thread they were married and islamically were entitled to have intercourse but the guy still did break up ... so it clearly depends on how big of a douche the guy is and not if you're married or engaged and thats wat mixedbeauty was tryin to say
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^ thank God sum people are not completly narrow minded. Re-pharse the question if u only wanna hear one thing.
And sara I've been told if you sleep with sum1 its a sin. But if you marry him then its not. Thats what i've been told. And i've seen it with my own eyes. Guys getting pressured to marry the girl bcoz the guy has 'took the girls virginity'.
This is why asians fight so much, Understand what the question is. Let people reply jus bcoz you dont like the bludy answer theres no reason to start attacking. Seriously!
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@ libranrulz itna jazbati kyoon ho gaaiy bhai ?!!
And sara I've been told if you sleep with sum1 its a sin. But if you marry him then its not. Thats what i've been told. And i've seen it with my own eyes. Guys getting pressured to marry the girl bcoz the guy has 'took the girls virginity'.
okay.
i dont know what that person told you but it IS a sin to have sex before you marry. thats it. there are no conditions attached to it that make it less ofa sin. if you have doubts..u can ask an elder, look it up on an islamic website, or even post the question in religion forum and the posters there will help u.
that's all anyone here is trying to tell you.
this is a reminder for myself and everyone else--stop getting so heated and emotional. no body is being attacked for their personal opinion or perspective, but when you start attributing something to islam that is not true at all then yes people will get offended and emotional.
now can we please move on?
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OK mixed beauty im not starting on u honestly i aint but what sara is trying to point out is not a judgement about ur personal opinion but about how you said sex b4 marriage isnt haram if you marry the guy. That simply is incorrect because anytype of physical interaction with the opposite sex is haraam.
I dont mean to go all preachy but theres a hadith to its nearest meaning whereby the prophet (saw) has said it is better to have a steel nail to be driven through the hand of the man then for him to touch the palm of a strange woman.
In islam your only halal for a guy once youve read the nikah. after that you are legally his therefore any hanky panky you do isnt haraam
And can i just also say that an islamic perspective is totally different to a personal perspective and i think nowadays its more realistic for a girl to give into a guys demands then it was in previous generations, and that is what mixed beauty meant when she's talking from 'Life's perspective'
And i think people on here are less likely to openly admit that they would give into such demands because of social norms and people coming down on them like a ton of bricks. The fact that this is a pakistani muslim forum is enough to scare away liberal girls coz lets face it most of them know its haram and dont want to hear the lectures and condemnations.
Now girls lets take a breather and relaaxxx its only a difference in opinion
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the thing is y the poster asked this question in the first place? is it because in his/her conscious/sub-conscious she thinks its not right thing to do. And wat makes it wrong? the answer will bring in Islam again. Apart from Islam there's nothing wrong with it. even if u r not getting married but wanna do it its not wrong. u like someone u wanna take it further. fine. the only arguement that makes it wrong in every post is Islam. this is the only thing that aparts us from West. no matter how bad muslims we r somewhere in our system Islam is there circulating like blood.
Mixedbeauty i'm not attacking u here but when u say many girls i know do it that's not understandable. y u follow these girls?these few girls r not authority. So don't chose wrong path just coz they did so.as a muslim sister i like to advice u that but if u say i don't care wat Islam says i still like to do it then O.K its now b/w u n Allah. no one has any right on u now.
Lady lama i said the same thing that guyz these days do pressurize girls a lot and many girls for the fear of losing that guy or staying unmarried giv in. its pretty sad but it is happening.
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Darling, I'm not following anyone. I have my own mind and my own views. Again i ask this whats the point asking this question on a pakistani muslim forum? I dont get it. Why ask for opinions when really you cant express yourself at all. Were ALL human and we all want/need it. Asking from a islamic point its gonna be no. Asking from a non islamic point its gonna be yes. Why does it feel like im repeating my self over n over are no one reading my posts?
But again why are people so worried? IF you do sleep with sum1 let it be! Even Allah says once your off my path your off. Ive givin you free-will. All will be sorted in the after-life. Why do people get to heated about this? When end of the day only Allah can judge and only Allah can put us in heaven or hell. Why has this subject turned islamic?
Note to everyone dont ever ask a question like this again, Its jus gonna be a NO because your all muslim and should never think like this! Everyone happy now?
Purrrleaseeee move on everyone. If you want my answer again jus read my posts again bcoz im jus repeating my self now.
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Ok lets take Islam out. my answer will still be No unless i wanna do it myself. but if he's pressurizing then No. i'll move to someone who gives me more time.