Re: If given a chance I wont repeat my mistake:: mush
That's the saddest part - at the end of the day, anyone educated and well-read on history and politics will see him as one of the best leaders we actually had, despite all his mistakes.
That's how bad the rest of the lot are.
Re: If given a chance I wont repeat my mistake:: mush
other than LAL masjid and fata he didn't do much wrong.
Sad thing is now we dont have any one to control the damage.
Re: If given a chance I wont repeat my mistake:: mush
Uh, Lal Masjid was the best thing he EVER did. Any act of stamping out complete fitna and haraam in the name of Islam is perfectly muslim, perfectly moral, and perfectly justified.
Letting Lal Masjid do what they wanted would be akin to allowing the Talibs to play around with blood in Swat.
Re: If given a chance I wont repeat my mistake:: mush
tsk tsk some things never change.
suicide attaks
before lalmasjid =0
after =100+
Man made pakistan into living hell.
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tsk tsk some things never change.
suicide attaks
before lalmasjid =0
after =100+
Man made pakistan into living hell./quote]
Right on dude!
PCG,
Did you hear these names in the backstage of Lal Masjid.
Moolalana diesel
shujaat chodhry
Ijaz ul haque
More over how they got the dhamaka khez mawad.
And bivi ko kulfi khilanay wala diloge by the primeminister at that time.
That's the saddest part - at the end of the day, anyone educated and well-read on history and politics will see him as one of the best leaders we actually had, despite all his mistakes.
That again is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard. Even he is now admitting that his whole reign was a mistake after the other. The educated and well read people consider him a mistake too. No wonder all the people in his first cabinet, that were actually educated and learned turned against him too, and he had to rely on crooks and murderers like Shujaat and Altaf for support. Just yesterday on his money making tour, he was talking about how it this whole thing with the alliance was his mistake too. I guess hes apologizing to get ready for another stint at some sort of power.
Uh, Lal Masjid was the best thing he EVER did. Any act of stamping out complete fitna and haraam in the name of Islam is perfectly muslim, perfectly moral, and perfectly justified.
Letting Lal Masjid do what they wanted would be akin to allowing the Talibs to play around with blood in Swat.
Ok fine, to you the innocent people who died there, including women and children might not matter along with the trouble makers there, that is understandable. But when you have contingents of forces, armed with the country's state weaponry brutally taking out a masjid, dont expect the nation to show any sympathy to the person who issues such orders. Remember, diplomacy was never given a true chance, as its now evident from Musharraf himself making apologetic statements about the saga. Even his little pony Chaudhry Shujaat developed differences with Mush over the decision of the show of force there. Ahmad Faraz quite rightly said, fauj jab asal jang larti hai tu shikast kha jati hai, masjid ko gira kar kya fatah milli, again the late Faraz lived upto this repute of being bitter, BUT honest.
PCG,
Did you hear these names in the backstage of Lal Masjid. Moolalana diesel shujaat chodhry Ijaz ul haque
More over how they got the dhamaka khez mawad.
And bivi ko kulfi khilanay wala diloge by the primeminister at that time.
Thats right, Shujaat said that he went and asked Shujaat Aziz, another one of Musharraf's ponies to somehow mediate and convince the former not to use the show of force and Shaukat replied saying he was on his way to Melody to get some kulfis with his wife.
Uh, Lal Masjid was the best thing he EVER did. Any act of stamping out complete fitna and haraam in the name of Islam is perfectly muslim, perfectly moral, and perfectly justified.
Letting Lal Masjid do what they wanted would be akin to allowing the Talibs to play around with blood in Swat.
Indeed. What a shame terrorists use a holy place like a mosque to store weapons, and plan terrorists activities. Once the terrorist leaders see action being taken against them, they come out wearing a Burqa to avoid detection.
Indeed. What a shame terrorists use a holy place like a mosque to store weapons, and plan terrorists activities.
What's wrong with storing weapons in a mosque? Did the Prophet Muhammad forbid storing weapons in a mosque?
What's wrong with planning whatever sort of activities in a mosque? Did the Prophet Muhammad forbid that? Please quote relevant hadith.
Re: If given a chance I wont repeat my mistake:: mush
It is not as if he made these mistakes by ignorance. he did it deliberately and for one purpose only to keep himself in power even at the expense of destroying Pakistan.
Uh, Lal Masjid was the best thing he EVER did. Any act of stamping out complete fitna and haraam in the name of Islam is perfectly muslim, perfectly moral, and perfectly justified.
Chalo ji, fatwa shuru....
Lets go, fatwa.com
So let us all ask Musharraf to rescind the NRO…
or work to have it rescinded!
What's wrong with storing weapons in a mosque? Did the Prophet Muhammad forbid storing weapons in a mosque?
What's wrong with planning whatever sort of activities in a mosque? Did the Prophet Muhammad forbid that? Please quote relevant hadith.
Sir with due respect we are not living in Arabian Peninsula, we are not in war and neither this is pre-islamic times.
Their is full fledged state system running in Pakistan with thousands of departments. If few thousand people don't like it still they don't have any right to forcefully implement their idealogy !
Sir with due respect we are not living in Arabian Peninsula, we are not in war and neither this is pre-islamic times.
I am not at war, I am not living in the Arabian peninsula and you are right, this is not pre-Islamic times. I still own guns and keep them in my house.
What's your point?
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I agree. But I must ask again. What's wrong with storing guns in a masjid and talking about activities in a masjid?
Re: If given a chance I wont repeat my mistake:: mush
Can we have an English translation please?
Re: If given a chance I wont repeat my mistake:: mush
no!
Re: If given a chance I wont repeat my mistake:: mush
Well at least give us the gist of what he has learn't from his mistakes.
I am not at war, I am not living in the Arabian peninsula and you are right, this is not pre-Islamic times. I still own guns and keep them in my house.
What's your point? ** I agree. But I must ask again. What's wrong with storing guns in a masjid and talking about activities in a masjid?**
Didn't you see any difference of activities between Lal Masjid or a mosque some where else?