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nice 11 point lead for india :D
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This ranking system always baffles me… India should be number one and should get some extra points for winning a world cup. ![]()
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and Pakistan should get extra points for beating last WC champ ![]()
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What!! The ranking system is based on recent history (last 18 months I believe?).. not just the last 1 or 2-3 games..
But could the system give extra points for winning big games like the WC? Pros and cons of doing that I guess. I’m happy with the way it is.
Australia had a very good ODI record recently despite of losing test points heavy cuz they lost so many test games… so they are still ahead in the ODI rankings but not for very long I think.
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THe ranking system sucks for sure
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serves Pakistan right after winning the series only 3-2 against a mediocre Windies side. They should have beaten them 5-0. Dead rubber or not, losing the last game by 10 wickets was thoroughly unprofessional
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THe ranking system sucks for sure
Let's hear your reasons :D
My only criticism is that it does not give you extra points for winning away test matches vs home test matches. Everything else is pretty reasonable.
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Just noticed that Pak is only 5 points behind Eng in the ODI ranking. That's a pretty good improvement I think compared to 6 months ago (if I remember correctly the gap was much bigger). So it does show that since Pak played ODIs well in the last few months it HAS reflected in the rankings. If Pak had won the WI series 4-1 or 5-0 they would have been even closer to England.
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Let's hear your reasons :D
My only criticism is that it does not give you extra points for winning away test matches vs home test matches. Everything else is pretty reasonable.
Wahab Riaz is at 70, while Abdul Razzaq is at 59. LOL!
With 23 wickets in 13 matches, Wahab Riaz is the 5th highest wicket taker in 2011, yet he's ranked 70th in the World.
With 648 runs in 19 innings, Mohammad Hafeez is the 3rd highest run getter in 2011, yet he's ranked 49th in the world
Misbah has 635 runs in 15 innings. 4th highest run getter in 2011. But he's 31st in the World.
Zaheer Khan has 30 wickets in 2011. He's the leading wicket taker in the world. and he's ranked 15th. Hahahahaha! Unbelievable!
Daniel Vettori has 5 wickets in 9 matches in 2011. You guess it rite. He's ranked no 1 in ICC ODI bowler's rankings.
Then Saeed Ajmal comes along, and takes 6 wickets in 5 matches, against the no.10 team in the world, and jumps 16 spots to land at no.3 Spot.
Basically, these ratings are a JOKE! No Credibility what so ever.
No wonder Ray Price has been world Number One. ECONOMICAL BOWLING.
PLAY rehman for 20 Matches, He'll end up in the Top 5 soon.
I Disagree with these rankings.
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WALEED !!! The rankings are not calculated based on career stats.. or on performance in the last 4-5 games or the last 4-5 months.. All of the above “problems” of yours with the ranking system fall flat once you understand and digest how they are being calculated.. ICC Men's Player Rankings - Wikipedia Please have a read..
Yes the system is not perfect but it is still quiite reasonable! My only problem is what I said in my last post.. no difference between home and away stats.. but I could see how that would make it even more complicated since some teams dont play enough away games and won’t have the same chance of scoring the extra “away” points..
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WALEED !!! The rankings are not calculated based on career stats..
Bhai when did i said that im giving the bowling stats of the bowlers for 2011....and u can see the highest wicket taker of 2011 is very below and those who didnt even took wickets they are very high ....For example Vettori .....i didnt even saw him taking 3 wickets in an ODI
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and this is how points are calculated
The ICC Player Rankings are a sophisticated moving average. Players are rated on a scale of 0 to 1000 points. If a player’s performance is improving on his past record, his points increase; if his performance is declining his points will go down.
The value of each player’s performance within a match is calculated using an algorithm, a series of calculations (all pre-programmed) based on various circumstances in the match.
All of the calculations are carried out using pre-programmed formulae, using the information published in a Test match scorecard. There is no human intervention in this calculation process, and no subjective assessment is made of the quality of the pitch or of the players
TEST MATCH RANKINGS
For a batsman, the factors are:
runs scored
ratings of the opposing bowling attack; the higher the combined ratings of the attack, the more value i s given to the batsman’s innings (in proportion)
the level of run-scoring in the match, and the team’s innings total; an innings of 100 runs in a match where all teams scored 500 is worth less than 100 runs in a match where all teams were bowled out for 200. And if a team scores 500 in the first innings and 200 in the second innings, a century in the second innings will get more credit than in the first innings (because the general level of run scoring was higher in the first innings)
out or not out (a not out innings receives a bonus)
the result. Batsmen who score highly in victories receive a bonus. That bonus will be higher for highly rated opposition teams (i.e. win bonus against the current Australia team is higher than the bonus against Zimbabwe.)
For a bowler, the factors are:
wickets taken and runs conceded;
ratings of the batsmen dismissed (the wicket of Rahul Dravid is worth more than that of Glenn McGrath – but if McGrath’s rating improves, the value of his wicket will increase accordingly)
the level of run-scoring in the match; bowling figures of 3 for 50 in a high scoring match will boost a bowler’s rating more than the same figures in a low scoring match;
The players’ ratings are calculated by combining their weighted performance in the latest match with their previous rating. This new ‘weighted average’ is then converted into points. Recent performances have more impact on a player’s rating than those earlier in his career, but all his performances are taken into account. A great player who has had a lean run of form will still have a respectable rating.
Players who miss a Test match for their country, for whatever reason, lose 1% of their points.
New players start at zero points, and need to establish themselves before they get full ratings. There is a scale for calculating qualifications. For example, a batsman who has played 10 Test innings gets 70% of his rating (i.e. his rating will be between 0 and 700 points). He doesn’t get 100% until he has played 40 Test innings. A bowler who has taken 30 wickets also gets 70% of his full rating. He doesn’t get 100% until he has taken 100 Test wickets. This means that successful new players can enter the top 30 after just a few Tests, but are unlikely to reach the world top 5 until they have many Test matches under their belts.
ONE-DAY RANKINGS
The principles behind the ODI Ratings are similar to those for the Test Ratings, with the following important differences:
Batsmen gain significant credit for rapid scoring. They only get a small amount of credit for being not out (because a not out batsman is, by definition, batting at the end of the innings when the value of his wicket is low)
Bowlers gain significant credit for economy. A bowler who bowls 10 overs 0 for 10 is likely to see his rating improve significantly, even though he hasn’t taken a wicket.
Players lose only ½ % of their points for missing a match for their country.
All ODI matches are considered equal, except for ICC Cricket World Cup matches, where good performances gain extra credit.
Big scores or wicket hauls against very weak nations get much less credit than the same performances against the main ODI countries.
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Bhai when did i said that im giving the bowling stats of the bowlers for 2011....and u can see the highest wicket taker of 2011 is very below and those who didnt even took wickets they are very high ....For example Vettori .....i didnt even saw him taking 3 wickets in an ODI
But the rankings are NOT calculated based on this current years performance only.. there have been ONLY 4 months in 2011.. so all your stats for 2011 are useless since that is not what the rankings only look at.. they look at the last 18 or 24 months.. and I am good with that.. it SHOULD NOT be based only the last 4 months as all your stats are..